MLK's dream a reality?

In Birmingham, yes and no
Associated Press
Aug 25, 2013


When he boarded a Greyhound bus on his way to Princeton University, Glennon Threatt promised himself he'd never come back here. As a young black man, he saw no chance to fulfill his dreams in a city burdened by the ghosts of its segregated past.

Helen Shores Lee left Birmingham years earlier, making the same pledge not to return. A daughter of a prominent civil rights lawyer, she wanted to escape a city tarnished by Jim Crow laws — the "white" and "colored" fountains, the segregated bus seating, the daily indignities she rebelled against as a child.

Both changed their minds. They returned from their self-imposed exile and built successful careers — he as an assistant federal public defender, she as a judge — in a Birmingham transformed by a revolution a half century ago.

This week, as the nation marks the 50th anniversary of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have A Dream" speech, there may be no better place than Birmingham to measure the progress that followed the civil rights leader's historic call for racial and economic equality.

This city, after all, is hallowed ground in civil rights history. It was here where children marching for equal rights were jailed, where protesters were attacked by snarling police dogs and battered by high-pressure fire hoses. And it was here where four little girls in their Sunday finest were killed when dynamite planted by Ku Klux Klan members ripped through their church.

That was the Birmingham of the past. The city that King condemned for its "ugly record of brutality." The city where he wrote his impassioned "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," declaring the "moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." The city where the movement came together, found its voice and set the stage for landmark civil rights legislation.

This is the Birmingham of the present: The airport is named after a fearless civil rights champion, the late Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth. The city's website features a 'Fifty Years Forward' campaign, forthrightly displaying photos of shameful events in 1963. Black mayors have occupied City Hall since 1979, in part because many white residents migrated to the suburbs, a familiar pattern in urban America.

So has King's dream of equality been realized here and has Birmingham moved beyond its troubled past?

In many ways, the answer is yes, the city has changed in ways that once seemed unthinkable — and yet, there's also a sense Birmingham still has a long way to go.

Legal and social barriers that barred black people from schools and jobs fell long ago, but economic disparity persists.

Blacks and whites work together and dine side by side in restaurants, but usually don't mingle after 5 p.m.

Racial slurs are rare, but suspicions and tensions remain.

"I don't think any of us would deny that there have been significant changes in Birmingham," Shores Lee says. King would be proud, she adds, but "he would say there's a lot more work to be done."


"I have a dream that one day down in Alabama. ... little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers ..." — King, Aug. 28, 1963.


Amid the flowers in Kelly Ingram Park, there are stark reminders of the ugly clashes. It was in this area, now known as the Civil Rights District, where the scenes of police brutality were captured in photos and TV footage that helped galvanize public opinion on behalf of demonstrators.

Today, the park has a statue commemorating King. There's one sculpture of a young protester, his arms stretched back, as a policeman grabs him with one hand and holds a lunging German shepherd in the other. And another of a boy and a girl standing impassively with the words "I Ain't Afraid of your Jail" at the base.

To those who grew up here, these works are not just art, but reminders of the bravery of friends and neighbors.

"It's kind of like being in the movie 'The Sixth Sense' — everywhere you go you see ghosts," Threatt says.

Threatt was just 7 when King announced his vision of a color-blind society before hundreds of thousands of people gathered on the Washington Mall. Not long afterward, Threatt was among three black gifted students enrolled in a white elementary school. He was spat on, beat up, called the N-word.

Now 57, Threatt occasionally runs into a 6th grade classmate — a bank vice president — who'd been among his tormenters. They always have a pleasant chat. But he never forgets.

"I like him," he says. "I don't think he's a racist. He was a kid caught up in a social situation like I was. .... You've got to get over that in order to survive in the South. ... Otherwise you just wallow in self-pity and hatred and you don't move forward."

Threatt graduated from Princeton, then Howard University Law School, worked in Denver and Washington, D.C., but returned to Birmingham in 1997. Both he and the city had changed, he says. He joined an established law firm — something that would have been unimaginable 50 years earlier.

Threatt had been inspired, in part, to be a lawyer by Arthur Shores, a pioneering civil rights attorney who fought to desegregate the University of Alabama. Shores' home was bombed twice in 1963, two weeks apart.

Shores' daughter, Helen, grew up resisting segregation, once drinking from a "white" fountain — a defiant act that resulted in a whipping when she got home. At 12, she aimed a Colt .45 at some white men driving by her family's house, spewing racial obscenities. Her father, she says, hit her arm, the bullet discharged into the air and he quickly grabbed the gun.

She stayed away from Birmingham about 13 years, returned in 1971, later switched careers and in 2003 became a judge.

In her early years on the bench, she recalls, a few lawyers pointedly refused to stand as is custom when a judge enters a courtroom. And, she says, she's occasionally seen lawyers who are disrespectful of their minority clients.

"Racism is still very much alive and well in the South," Shores Lee says. "The actions of men here can be legislated but not their minds and their hearts in terms of how they think and feel about blacks and Hispanics."

The judge says when she gives speeches about voting rights, she sometimes cites her father. "How far have we come if he talked about this 60 plus years ago and I'm still talking about it today?" she asks.

Donna Lidge didn't speak for decades about the pain she endured as a girl. Every morning, her bus would pass an elderly white woman standing on a corner, cursing and making an obscene gesture. Then Lidge would arrive at her predominantly white school, where she and her younger sister were ostracized. "We despised that school," she says.

Lidge said her mother would console them, saying: "'I want you to get an education. That's how you will fight back.'"

That was an era of a white majority and enforced segregation in Birmingham. Today, nearly 75 percent of the population is black. While the overt racism of the 1960s has long disappeared, the issue has not.

James Rotch, a white lawyer, has been addressing it openly since 1998 when he launched the Birmingham Pledge — a program to eliminate racism and prejudice.

The "pledge" has evolved into a foundation with conferences, educational material used around the nation and a special week of events held around the September anniversary of the bombing of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church that killed the four girls.

Not everyone agrees with Rotch's emphasis on race.

"There are a lot of very good, very well-intentioned people who say, 'Look if we stop talking about all this, it'll all go away.' I don't believe that," he says. "...If we pretend it's not there, then we'll never solve it."

In the last 15 years, Rotch says the two races have become more comfortable with one another. And for those 30 and younger, "they really don't understand why anyone would be prejudiced," he says. "They intermingle easily and they just don't see what the big deal is."

Still, there are limits to the socializing.

King's dream is "real during the day" in workplaces and restaurants, says Jim Reed, a white bookstore owner. "When people aren't thinking about it, it's coming true," he says. Once home, however, they aren't inclined to broaden their circles.

"People don't know how to jump that divide," though some would like to, he says. "I see it as taking a long time to get there. Generations have to change."


"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." — King.


At the More Than Conquerors Faith Church, Pastor Steve Green preaches to a congregation that couldn't have existed in King's day.

There are graduates of once-segregated universities. A generation of kids comfortable with mixed-race relationships. And people who worked to get out the vote for the nation's first black president.

But there is one constant: Green's congregation is about 90 percent black, a reminder of King's frequently-quoted declaration that 11 a.m. on Sunday is "the most segregated hour of Christian America."

King, the pastor says, would turn to the Bible to explain that 50 years isn't all that long to transform an entire society.

"Being a preacher, I think he would use as the basis the scriptural principle of seedtime and harvest. I think a lot of the seeds have been planted," he says. "They're getting nurtured a little at a time. But I don't think it's harvest time yet."

One congregation member, Chastity McDavid, reflects the change.

Growing up poor in Florida, she says, "I expected prejudice and racism and if it didn't happen, I was pleasantly surprised."

Now she holds a doctoral degree and is a minority health disparity researcher at the University of Alabama-Birmingham.

Visiting community centers, sometimes addressing elderly, largely white audiences, as part of her job, McDavid has been on alert for signs of prejudice. What she's generally found, she says, are people who are "accepting, even welcoming."

From childhood on, McDavid, now 35, always participated in celebrations of King's birthday, often at school where someone would recite the dream speech.

"He was the greatest example of how one person could make a difference," she says. "It wasn't so much the speech itself. ... It was what the speech ignited in the people who heard it. I felt I could be anything I want because of Dr. King. Had his dream not been shared, I don't think I would be where I am today."


"Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!" — King.


One recent summer night, Steve Sills, a member of Green's church, took his two daughters to a rally to motivate young people about the value of respect.

The setting was Kelly Ingram Park.

Sill's older daughter, Makiyah, 12, had studied King in school but she didn't understand the sculptures of vicious dogs and water hoses.

As they drove home, Sills, a computer teacher at a middle school, explained the racial hostilities of that era. He noticed a tear forming in his daughter's eye.

"She couldn't relate," he says. "Her best friends are white. She couldn't imagine it being that way."

Makiyah, he says, then wondered about the need to erect monuments of a painful chapter of America's past.

"Why would they have this as a reminder?" she asked. "It's sad."

"Yes, baby, those were terrible days," he replied, "but through the years we've put those things behind us. ... This is a part of history. It's good to revisit these times to show how far we've come."


Sharon Cohen is a Chicago-based national writer. She can be reached at




Re: "I want you to get an education. That's how you will fight back."

Not dissimilar from Booker T. Washington's message: Be the best at your trade as you can be and skin color won't make a difference.

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If that were true blacks would have been paid equally! They weren't! Not even in the White House they built!


get rid of affirmative action, its not fair to other races. Being other race and they don't know they are being /disˈkriməˌnāt/ed against. Truely unfair.

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"get rid of affirmative action"

I have said this for 30 years, only the federal government can eliminate racism by promoting "EQUAILTY" not set asides and other programs aimed to promote other races and genders.


I am okay with getting rid of affirmative action as long as it is not forgotten why it was necessary in the first place. It was necessary. Some want to act as though we were all on an equal level but that was just not nor is the case. I blame racism on SOME white people. They thought they were superior and didn't allow others a fair shot. We all only have two cheeks people. Don't talk about fairness only when it affects you. The dream is coming into focus but it is not there yet!


and today, the blame for racism is all sides, not just white.
And the Federal government is the biggest racist, just look at the cenus when filling it out, What is your Race? it should only say, Are You American, YES or NO.

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"They thought they were superior"

Yes deer as in past tense, let the generations after the 50's and 60's see things on a fair playing ground. There will always be racists within all races as well as genders.

This is America and all of us come from somewhere else. My grandfather left Russia before he was exterminated and settled in America, learned the language and worked a productive life. My mothers dad was a Cossack, not highly liked by the Communists because they liked freedom!

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The big difference is your grandfather LEFT Russia. He wasn't kidnapped and sold into slavery. Ever wonder where the family instability came from? They were yanked away from their families early on, made to live in separate quarters, different plantations. Think about it. And no not much has changed from the 50's and 60's.

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"And no not much has changed from the 50's and 60's."

WOW, I guess the discussion is over. Have to go anyway, lots to do while nice outside.


You have to remember that not only the whites kidnapped the people from Africa. There were lots of blacks who sold their own people into slavery. Why don't you put the blame on them also. Most of us alive today had nothing to do with "slavery". Is there racism in the world today. Absolutely. However, I truly believe that some blacks teach their children to hate whites just as some whites teach their children to hate others. Back in the 30's, my white grandfather's best friend was a black man. He and my grandmother had him to dinner many times. Our family still decorates his grave because he had no family and we learned from our grandfather what a good man he was. That is what equality is all about.


Also back in the 20's, 30's, and 40's black families stayed together, had lower divorce rate, had lower out of wedlock births than did whites. Why did the instability stop for a generation or two?

And some things have changed from the 50's and 60's, such as divorce rates and out of wedlock births, high school drop out rates, felony convictions. That is after several decades where the blacks rates were lower than the whites. Why did that change after a generation or two of stable lives?

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Where did you get your stats from?

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Doggie some of the first slave traders were black people. Slavery was just not caused by white people.

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Not a single black person living today, or in the past 50 years has evern been kidnapped and sold into slavery either. SO what's your point, Mr. racebaiter extraordinaire? Indians have been treated badly in America long before the slave era. Nobody seems to want to help them out.


We know you would like to change that right knucklehead


We know you would like to change that right knucklehead


Big pooch. my grandmother had to leave her family in Ireland at age 12 alone and come to this country where she was an house servant for 6 years to pay her passage,room and board. My other grandparents came from Germany, not speaking English, but worked multi jobs as laborers and learned English, yet all of their children and grandchildren made themselves successful professionals by hard work, not by blaming others. You are correct not much has changed since the 50's & 60's the far left and black leaders like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,Barrack Obama and far left liberals keep race baiting at every opportunity to promote their agenda. The thugs, black on black crime, 72% of all black babies born to an unwed mother is not the dream Dr. King talked about. Thurgood Marshall, Condoleezza Rice, Clarence Thomas, and Collin Powell are a few examples of many that Dr. King's dream was about.

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You both don't get it.


Typical far left liberal response when they are confused with with facts and logic.

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By the way websta, why didn't you include Barack Obama with those you called MLK's dream lineup? Can't get much more successful than President of the US.


dog breath, Obama is not part of the dream with his constant race baiting to further his agenda, that's not Dr. King.

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Myth #1: King wanted only equal rights, not special privileges and would have opposed affirmative action, quotas, reparations, and the other policies pursued by today's civil rights leadership.

This is probably the most repeated myth about King. Writing on National Review Online, There Heritage Foundation's Matthew Spalding wrote a piece entitled "Martin Luther King's Conservative Mind," where he wrote, "An agenda that advocates quotas, counting by race and set-asides takes us away from King’s vision."

The problem with this view is that King openly advocated quotas and racial set-asides. He wrote that the "Negro today is not struggling for some abstract, vague rights, but for concrete improvement in his way of life." When equal opportunity laws failed to achieve this, King looked for other ways. In his book Where Do We Go From Here, he suggested that "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him, to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis." To do this he expressed support for quotas. In a 1968 Playboy interview, he said, “If a city has a 30% Negro population, then it is logical to assume that Negroes should have at least 30% of the jobs in any particular company, and jobs in all categories rather than only in menial areas.” King was more than just talk in this regard. Working through his Operation Breadbasket, King threatened boycotts of businesses that did not hire blacks in proportion to their population.

King was even an early proponent of reparations. In his 1964 book, Why We Can't Wait, he wrote,

No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law.

Predicting that critics would note that many whites were equally disadvantaged, King claimed that his program, which he called the "Bill of Rights for the Disadvantaged" would help poor whites as well. This is because once the blacks received reparations, the poor whites would realize that their real enemy was rich whites.


They really don't. You can't fault black people for not working hard as you say if they were not given the opportunity. However, the work they performed as domestics was intense. Blacks and others cleaned your homes, cooked your food, served it to you, and raised your kids. I'd hardly call that lazy. Today, I think morality as well as personal responsibility is the key. Education is also very important!

Stop It

RE: "Blacks and others cleaned your homes, cooked your food, served it to you, and raised your kids"

Who is this "your" person? Where do they live?


Webster, that agenda would be money. Race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson have become multi-millionaires by exploiting impoverished blacks and their plight. Let's face it, as long as their is money to be made, they will continue to fuel the fires of racism.


We will add you and the republican party to that list. And take some names off.


All people leave this land - unless you are Red. ekoj


Still have the original beads for the return of the land they were traded for? If you do not have the items with a valid reciept there are no returns. Now run along and please do not cry about the litter.


It's still a dream, all one has to do is read the blogs anytime Obama's name comes up, or any story on gay americans. This country is still full of bigots and the ignorant. It's a shame, as being a bigot is a learned behavior


"as being a bigot is a learned behavior" you are proof of that fact.

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Myth # 2: King was an American patriot, who tried to get Americans to live up to their founding ideals.

In National Review, Roger Clegg wrote that "There may have been a brief moment when there existed something of a national consensus – a shared vision eloquently articulated in Martin Luther King, Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech, with deep roots in the American Creed, distilled in our national motto, E pluribus unum. Most Americans still share it, but by no means all." Many other conservatives have embraced this idea of an American Creed that built upon Jefferson and Lincoln, and was then fulfilled by King and libertarians like Clint Bolick and neocons like Bill Bennett.

Despite his constant invocations of the Declaration of Independence, King did not have much pride in America's founding. He believed "our nation was born in genocide," and claimed that the Declaration of Independence and Constitution were meaningless for blacks because they were written by slave owners.


Ah yes, the old anyone who is critical of the President is a racist card. Don't your fingers ever get tired of typing the same useless trash? Could be that you lack the intelligence to carry on thoughtful conversation with anyone who disagrees you. Ignorance begets ignorance.

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Myth # 5: King supported the free market.

OK, you don't hear this too often, but it happens. For example, Father Robert A. Sirico delivered a paper to the Acton Institute entitled Civil Rights and Social Cooperation. In it, he wrote,

A freer economy would take us closer to the ideals of the pioneers in this country’s civil rights movement. Martin Luther King, Jr. recognized this when he wrote: "With the growth of industry the folkways of white supremacy will gradually pass away," and he predicted that such growth would "Increase the purchasing power of the Negro [which in turn] will result in improved medical care, greater educational opportunities, and more adequate housing. Each of these developments will result in a further weakening of segregation."

King of course was a great opponent of the free economy. In a speech in front of his staff in 1966 he said,

You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry… Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong…with capitalism… There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.

King called for "totally restructuring the system" in a way that was not capitalist or "the antithesis of communist." For more information on King's economic views, see Lew Rockwell's The Economics of Martin Luther King, Jr.

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This is amazing because during the 50s and 60s, the Right almost unanimously opposed the civil rights movement. Contrary to the claims of many neocons, the opposition was not limited to the John Birch Society and southern conservatives. It was made by politicians like Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater, and in the pages of Modern Age, Human Events, National Review, and the Freeman.

Today, the official conservative and libertarian movement portrays King as someone on our side who would be fighting Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton if he were alive. Most all conservative publications and websites have articles around this time of the year praising King and discussing how today's civil rights leaders are betraying his legacy.

Yellow Snow

Dog, Dr. King would be offended at the circus this is today. It's unfortunate that his mission has been twisted. Jessie, Al, and Obama have done a lot of damage to Dr. King's mission. If we could get back to Dr. King's original mission, life could be better for all.

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Tell me yellow, what was MLK's original mission.


pooch once again changing facts to back you lack of logic, Senator Al Gore Sr. (D) Tenn, Senator Robert Byrd (D) also Grand Knight of The KKK from W. Virginia, Gov. George Wallace (D) Alabama vocal and legislative opponents of the civil rights movement, I can continue, the democrappers controlled the south in the 50's and 60's. The first federal intervention in defense of civil rights was President Eisenhower (R).
From PBS a left leaning organization;


Please don't plead facts with Big Dog. If it isn't revisionist history, he is unlikely to believe it.


Also who supported the 1964 civil rights act the most?

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:[9]

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)

From this you can see the Republican Party supported the bill more so than the democrats.


Let's be real this is what is called the republican party now. Democrats did what Powell and a few other republicans are trying to do get rid of racist divisive matters. They very same things you can just turn to the register pages and see. You can't be that dumb to put a lot of your comments on here and claim republican and then try to make the grand knight of the kkk and his words any different. The register has turned into a modem day web page from the 50's and 60's if they had a web page back then. And false news would be their talking point.

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They were CONservatives.


In Colin Powell's book he did not speak well of w & his friends. (It worked for me) Or were you talking about Adam Clayton Powell?


The worst thing that we ever gave them was hope.


Or you your life.

Truth or Dare

Education IS the most important, and being able to receive one beyond 12th. grade is even MORE important! All the more reason to teach the truth of the history of IGNORANCE here in America!

Hey kurt; I am part Redskin, as my maternal great-grandmother was full blooded Indian. Sad part, due to a fire in Michigan in the late 1800's all records were wiped out regarding her as well my grand-mother. Ever wonder why there is really no history of Native Americans and their Tribes here on our North Coast? I do. You know, there was diversity already roaming this country centuries before the first Pilgrims set foot on Plymouth Rock, and that includes dark-skinned folk, right along with the red, yellow and brown folk.

Racism, Bigotry, Discrimination in general will never be eradicated. It's the ugly side of Human Nature. You know, don't mingle/mix with that tribe/family kind of thing. I know this, next time I have to mark a box, if there isn't one that simply says "American", I'll be marking the Native American box.


True Truth or d. Why are many counties named Wyandot, Huron, Erie, etc. Most don't know facts.