Perkins Schools to try for levy third time this year

Board members place identical levy on November ballot, appoint Chris Gasteier as Meadowlawn Intermediate School principal
Alissa Widman Neese
Aug 7, 2013

 

Perkins Schools is going back on the ballot.

At a meeting this morning, school board members approved placing a 10-year, 6.73-mill emergency operating levy on the November ballot. The deadline to place the issue on the ballot is this afternoon.

The proposed levy is identical to the levy that failed Tuesday, with 54 percent voting against it.

Also at the meeting, board members agreed to appoint Perkins Schools communications director Chris Gasteier as principal of Meadowlawn Intermediate School for the upcoming school year.

Dean Stanfield, the school's former principal, was appointed Perkins High School assistant principal to fill a vacancy after Nick Neiderhouse, former Perkins High School assistant principal, resigned this summer for a job at Maumee Schools.

Pick up a copy of tomorrow's Register to hear reactions about the levy's failure from community members who attended Wednesday's meeting.

Note: This post has been modified to reflect it will be an emergency levy. 

Comments

fifteenthgreen

Here is a brief explanation of the Value-Added Measure.
http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/...

fifteenthgreen

District OH Rank Rating 11-12 10-11 Per.Ind Value Low Inc.

Edison Local Erie 247 A A 100.8 Met 33%
Huron City Erie 124 A A 103.7 Met 30%
Margaretta Erie 412 B A 97.6 Met 37%
Perkins Local Erie 391 B B 98 Below 33%
Vermilion Local Erie 371 A B 98.4 Met 41%
Port Clinton Ottawa 430 B B 97.2 Met 47%
Put-In-Bay Ottawa 21 A A 108.7 Met n/a
Danbury Local Ottawa 241 A A 101 Met 45%
Oak Harbor Ottawa 240 A+ A 101 Above 34%
Norwalk City Huron 332 B A 99.3 Met 49%
Sandusky City Erie 585 C C 86.5 Met 78%

Perkins Local
Erie
State rank: 391
2010 - 2011: State rating B
2011 - 2012: State rating B
Value Added: Below
Lower Income: 33%

Perkins Resident

I voted yes yesterday. I will be voting no in November. The voters have spoken. More than once. I am embarrassed by our leaders. I will be pulling my kids out of Perkins and will open enroll them in another District. Can someone please tell me if I missed the deadline? If I did, my kids will be at St. Mary's this year. I am done with this school system. I will never vote yes as long as the current leadership is in place. Thank you in advance for any information on open enrollment.

JEF

Margaretta Schools may accept your open enrollment applications. No pay to play fees, smaller class sizes and better report card ratings.

WesTaylor

except they have to sit a year.....anyone who transfers from their home district is ineligible for one academic year

VOTENO

I don't think that's true.

God Of Thunder

Yes....I'm pretty sure it is.. Kids will be ineligible to play sports for a year if they transfer... I think it's a stupid OHSAA rule..

sanduskymom

From what I understand, the rules have changed this year. Students only have to sit out for half a season now.

WesTaylor

I looked that up....you are correct. 50% of the the sport season. 10 football games, the kid would sit the first 5.

takeastand

yes this is correct the state changed it to half the season this year!

takeastand

Margaretta has Ed Kurt which can be just as bad as Gunner!

Tsu Dho Nimh

Huron will take open enrollment through the first day of school if they have the room. They still have room right now.

Wald

Going from Perkins to a system run by the three stooges of the coach is not exactly what I would consider an upgrade, although you did just get an excellent superintendent. However, Huron is about to face its own levy issue.

Tsu Dho Nimh

The levy this year is a renewal. Historically, renewals are usually passed in districts. They will not need to ask for new money for at least one year, maybe two. Now that Huron has an excellent superintendent, the three stooges won't have to address bad (and sometimes illegal) behavior. Maybe the previous boards should have been more aware of what was going on earlier and his behavior would not have escalated.

Informed

Huron's renewal will pass. There are enough people in Huron that agree with the three board members that Fox needed to go because of his actions to pass it. While we might not agree with how it has all played out, most people are more disgusted by Fox's behavior and that of his two disciples on the board than by the other three.

Gardenman

You may be right BUT the bottom line in the eyes of the law Fox did nothing to have been fired. No I would not be crazy from his lifestyle to have as superintendent BUT again in the eyes of the law there were not grounds to fire him.

Now given the above folks may well say lets get rid of him anyway then we ALSO must be prepared to pay Fox the full amount of his contract and also his mental anguish, his legal costs, etc for getting rid of him. Make no mistake about it all that WILL NOT be paid for by the insurance company. The district will have a large amount to pay and that is our tax dollars.

Fox stands to collect a huge sum and I am sure it will be into several hundred thousand dollars. That is where the voters will actually decide the fate of the three in the majority on the Board. Bottom line : Did they do it the right way or could they have done it another way and saved the district a lot of money and trouble. Lets face it other than building principals the school district had next to nothing in leadership. The guy they got was nothing more than a care taker. And why not he was not going to get wrapped up in their mess. So they have already paid a huge price in just that fact. That is where I have problems with the three in majority on the Board and I will show that dissatifaciton at the polls be it levy or school board elections.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Remember, the report that cleared him did not come from a state agency. The referee is not an arbitrator and is not employed by ODE. Personally, I find it quite odd that either side would win ALL 23 points. The OEC has lead its own investigation and should release its findings soon. If this AGENCY finds the super guilty of wrong doing will you change your mind and support the Huron district?

Informed

There has been no legal ruling in the Fox case, so to say that is incorrect. Who says in the eyes of the law Fox did nothing wrong? Fox and his supporters? The law hasn't been involved, Fox would not go to arbitration, and the OEC hasn't ruled yet.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Amen

Gardenman

I can see your thoughts but state law is very clear on what constitutes termination of a contract for a school employee. It is very difficult to fire a achool teacher and in this case a superintendent for something they have not been convicted of in a court of law. Board can remove them from the job for sure and in this case a superintendent but you must pay them all salary and benefits due them if you wish to fire them. What Fox did was not in the eyes of state law a valid reason for termination anymore than it was a crime in the court eyes. Bottom line you can not deny paying out the full money agreed upon in the contract and all other benefits that are due the employee. If they were to resign then you can deny all those things but not if you just say bye that is it. I have not seen Fox resign and I highly doubt he has any intention too. He has the Board and the insurer against the wall and a very good reason why the former insurer pulled out. Alas, they can plainly see the handwriting on the wall and it's not going to be cheap.

You may have forgotten but several years ago the superintendent of Lorain City Schools was dismissed much in the same way as Fox was done. It seems that several Board members were upset for he was on the golf course during the school day. Yea, bad but again the Board had not set the hours of work day for the superintendent. There were other things too the Board was upset but lack of being on the job many times was the main reason. Bottom line none of then were convictable crimes in a court law. They had to pay the superintendent all his pay along with benefits etc. Actually, what happen the Board transferred the superintendent to the high school as a teacher and he completed his contract as the highest paid school teacher in the entire State of Ohio. That did not fair well with the voters either. The Board did not want him as superintendent and they moved him to a teaching position but that did not mean they did not have to pay his full contracted pay amount. The Board never went to court for the Baord attorneys said we have not a leg to stand.

Think back to the contract just written by the Huron BOE with the new superintendent. That has lots of morals statements in it. Fox contract did not. Alas, there is the fly in the ointment.....another indication of the no leg to stand on by the Board with Fox. Fox and his attorneys will do well in the settlement with Huron BOE compliments of the tax payers.

Look at it this way you got rid of him BUT you will pay dearly for it. So for both sides maybe that is a good trade off...on the one had you got rid of person you did not want and that person gets all the dollars had they still been in the job till the end of the contract. You made quite a few attorneys a good chunk of change. Look at the law firm who gave 25 hours of FREE legal service and got paid over $90,000 in legal fees from the Huron BOE. They have to be happy campers !!!

whazup

The OEC will make its rulings (yes, I said rulingS). The truth will come out about one of your board members and when it does, the other three board members will look pretty good to the community.

samiam

You could also open enroll in Sandusky if they are still taking students. It's closer for transporting and they do have some very good teachers and programs.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Sandusky offers more than any other district in the area.

Brick Hamland

In Sandusky, you also can get punched in the face by a mother of another student while sitting in class. I believe that just happened last year... no thanks.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Maybe the mother can open enroll her child in your district. What does a bad parent have to do with the teachers and curriculum?

Mallory01

You believe?

WesTaylor

curious....what do they offer?

Tsu Dho Nimh

They offer a better music program with more options, the high school has its own career tech programs which allows students to participate in both career tech and college credit classes under one roof, AP courses at the high school, the best student services department just to name a few. Sandusky has managed to keep programs that other districts have cut over the years.

WesTaylor

I think you are confused with what SHS USED to be like. They have a poor music program, they have a small handful of career tech classes left, and the offer the same AP courses as any other school. The best student services department? How would you know that?

Mallory01

Sandusky schools as a whole have more to offer than any school around. I would like to know where you are getting your info from. The music program is outstanding! It had a little hiccup but is back on the upswing with fresh directors! Umm... What schools around offer an orchestra? No one that is near here. And our orchestra is AWESOME! The career tech classes are strong too! I know many students that have had many of opportunities that would beg to disagree with you. Oh but wait.... You must be using the small minority that doesn't take advantage of what is in front of them. Maybe you should stop the hating and give us our due!

Mallory01

Sandusky will gladly educate your children! I am sure deadlines will be broken in lieu of the recent levy failure.

Brick Hamland

Send them to St. Mary's. They have new leadership there that is simply out of this world. The class sizes are great for kids to get individual attention. A lot of people get scared off by the tuition, but the school has scholarship programs available and I am sure they will be making an active effort to assist Perkins students to enter the school system at an affordable rate. If you look at the success rate from graduates: going to and graduating from college it is astounding. Good luck.

sanduskymom

My husband and I look at tuition as an investment in our kids' futures. Sure, it's a sacrifice, but I can tell you first hand it's so worth it in the end! Our oldest just graduated, and was part of a class who was offered, as a whole, more than $4 million in scholarships to universities. I believe the class of 33 students accepted (scholarship money they are actually using) almost $1.4 million. The school worked so hard to help these kids find scholarship opportunities. I could not have been more pleased with the education he received.

High school students can also take - at no extra charge and on SMCC's campus - post secondary classes that will generally transfer as coursework already completed when they start college. Many kids from SMCC graduate from high school with a semester or two of college already done.

I encourage anyone even slightly interested to call the school's admission office with questions. There's an ad in today's Register with the phone number.

Mallory01

That is an option. Just remember that they are not state regulated. This can work for, and against, you.

Perkins2060

St. Mary's here come my kids! Go Panthers!

Perkins2060

Need to know if my tax dollars will go to Perkins Schools if I send my kids to SMCC. If the dollars stay, I will open enroll them to another district.

JEF

You will still pay taxes to Perkins, they will not go to SMCC. They will follow you to another public school though.

Perkins2060

Hi JEF. So the tax dollars I pay will stay in Perkins? If so, I'm on the phone immediately with Margaretta.

JEF

Correct.

Licorice Schtick

Not exactly correct. If you send your kid to another school district, then substantial per-student state money goes there instead of your home district. That's the money districts are after when they opt for open enrollment.

Perkins2060

Then I'm leaning towards Margaretta or Huron. This District will not get a dime from me as long as my kids are in school.

Perkins2060

Thanks for the info.

My thoughts

Were you able to enroll your children in Margaretta schools Perkins2060? I would suggest you move there to so your kids won't feel like outsiders. My children would have been really upset if I moved them during their school years because I didn't like the direction of the District. Kudos to you.

Nemesis

The district will still get plenty of your dimes - every penny of local property tax will stay right where it is. All that will follow your kids is the state subsidy attached to your kids, which comes from the state's general fund, fueled by state income taxes.

registerer

Public tax dollars will not follow to a Catholic school.

Karma89

Your tax dollars stay in whatever district you live in, my children go to SMCC and we live in the Huron.I pay for Huron schools and I have voted "yes for there levies, several times through out the years" We are not rich by any means but the education and the community service life lessons they receive is worth the money. We would love to have you at SMCC!

Tsu Dho Nimh

The state does not allow tax dollars to follow a child to private schools. SMCC offers an excellent education to the students but the parents must pay. Open enrollment in another public school district is free. If Perkins follows through with the cuts and the pay to play, parents will have some tough decisions to make.

fifteenthgreen

It will now cost you even more!!!

SR

An additional, one-time factor in Tuesday’s election is a recently approved portion of the new state budget.

Citizens for Perkins Schools members are urging voters to approve the levy now, rather than later, because an identical Perkins Schools levy will cost taxpayers more starting in September, according to the budget.

Until this year, the state paid a portion of approved levies through two tax exemptions, one 10 percent and one 2.5 percent, Erie County auditor Rick Jeffrey said. Now, according to the new budget, taxpayers will pay the entirety of future levies.

Simply put: If approved in August, the levy will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. If the levy fails and is approved in November, it will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $236 per year, a 14.25 percent increase of $30.

Existing and renewal levies will not be affected by the tax exemption changes.

“It’s so important voters understand the urgency to pass this now, when it costs them less,” said John Schlessman, a sub-committee chair. “We’re doing everything we can these last few days to help educate and inform people so the can get out and vote based on the facts.”

Nemesis

It costs even less if they vote it down in November, too.

donutshopguy

Can someone please explain to me why Mr. Gasteier was removed as principal of Perkins High School a couple years ago but is acceptable as a Meadowlawn principal?

I don't understand the logic.

Perkins2060

Good 'ol Boy? I have no idea. Good question though.

Wald

He lost the communication director position so now they need to throw him a bone. And was the Meadowlawn principal position advertised, or was it just given to him?

fifteenthgreen

Is it true?

Good 2 B Me

True Story!

ISPSP

@DSG - you read my mind! I was just wondering the same thing.....

The New World Czar

Now the newest talking point will be that the district has saved money by eliminating the communications position.

Either way, IMO when he was principal at PHS he was a nice guy but not the disciplinarian that the current principal is, and if there is one thing that improved, it has been the tightening of the rules for the students and the employees.

BooBeeDo

Gunner needed to get rid of the Communication Director job to show the union that administration is also being effected. He saves face to the union and taxpayers for this NEEDLESS job.
It would have been demeaning and embarassing to place him as an assistant principal at the high school. Gunner would have had to move Mark Dahlman.
This plan has been in the works for some time now. I think a better plan would have been to place Mr. Gasteier at Briar School and remove Steve Finn. He retired and was rehired at $77,000 (double dipping).
The school could have hired a new principal at less expense for Meadowlawn.

Rosa

How much is their pension, they should not double dip. Give a job to someone who needs it!

WesTaylor

FACT: A retire/rehire is significantly less expensive than hiring someone else.

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2cents

Same way the Obozo administration shuffles around people, they say they fire them after events like Benghazi but place them somewhere else at the same pay scale. Politics!

Wald

Unbelievable! Hey Gunner, NO means NO!

PyrkinsPyrate

How can anyone who is an American and believes in democracy and the sanctity of voting accept what these people are doing? This surely has to offend some people. We really need laws that prevent entities from serially forcing us to vote all the time. This school board is really showing the voters what they think of us.

Cowboy

Yep, and we are getting more and more upset and vocal about their crap!!! Some people who voted yes are now going to vote no just because they are getting pissed at the BOE for all their games! This November election will probably be the largest NO vote so far if they don't fire Gunner! We're tired of GUNNER GAMES!

Perkins Resident

My family and I are in that category Cowboy. We voted yes on all the past levies, but after this we will be voting no as long as we have the current leadership. No means no.

lifetimeresident

Same here cowboy. If we stay in the District. Denny is our first choice now.

Cowboy

FIRE GUNNER!

My thoughts

At most it would be four times a year, not "all the time". With the ability to send in absentee ballots these days it hardly takes that much effort. It's not like you need to read about this issue as your mind is already made up and probably won't change.

MAMADPERK

Thought this article on NBC News yesterday was interesting...

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/...

PyrkinsPyrate

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Good 2 B Me

The BOE and Gunner are sending quite an interesting message to the kids. If you don't get what you want, bully. If bullying does not work, lie. If lying does not work, BULLY HARDER! Fine job of leading by example!

We need a vote of No Confidence!

Cowboy

Gunner has not liked what we, the voter, have said for a while now. This just reaffirms what we all have been saying all along. He moves money despite what we want! He does NOT care about us! He does NOT respect our decisions as voters! He does NOT understand democracy! THIS IS NOT A DICTATORSHIP!!! WE SAID NO!!! WE MEAN NO!!! WE ARE DONE PLAYING GAMES WITH YOU GUNNER!!! Every voting taxpayer in Perkins should be offended by your behavior.

Rosa

Good 2 B Me,
Also, I heard that at OVH,(from an election worker) coaches were bringing residents down in their wheelchairs, and student were telling them how to vote, and these residents did not even know what they were voting for... The election workers put a stop to it, but that just sickens me to think the lessons they are teaching students. Lie, cheat, steal to get what you want. Where is the honesty??!!

Good 2 B Me

That is as low if not lower than having the kids hand out free ice cream and propaganda.

PyrkinsPyrate

I think we need to go ask the vets at OVH how they few about people that take away their votes. They gave their years and their blood for democracy and now the BOE, a bunch of wimpy sissies can take away their rights that Hitler's SS Stormtroopers or Hirohito's Samurai couldn't take.

swimfan

Did you know that they had the Perkins baseball coach and the girls softball team taking the OVH residents down to vote? I wonder what the results were overall? LOW, LOW,LOW....You get what you deserve I the long run!!

BooBeeDo

Swimfan and Webster: I called the Board of Elections to verify whether or not an issue occurred regarding residents from the Ohio Veterans Home being brought to the polls and could not recite their names. She verified that there was indeed an issue of veterans brought to polls and unable to respond (name).
It has been rumored that the Perkins baseball coach (supplemental) and employee of OVH along with the girls softball team transported them to polls.
It is shameful, disrespectful, pathetic (I could go on and on) to treat these heroes in such a manner. I cannot believe Gunner and his crew could step so LOW for a yes vote. Have you no conscience?

Cowboy

You look like nice folks so I'm gonna give you a clue how to pass a levy........ fire Gunner and put the millage back to what it was before the extra 2mill. Find some private corporation to fund the additional millage. THEN IT WILL PASS FOR SURE!!! Otherwise, I'm VOTING NO AGAIN!

Wayne

@Perkins Resident - Bellevue Schools has endured some tough times in the past but it has built a lot of positive momentum from the new elementary and middle schools last year to renovations at the high school this year and I know they have open enrollment.

Wald

Perkins ought to look at Port Clinton. They tried to get a building levy passed and it failed several times. Did they unethically move operating funds? No, they stayed off the ballot for a year, did research, asked what the community wanted, and came back the next year with a revised plan. This happened for several years, I believe. Guess what? They passed the levy and opened two new schools last year (without moving a dime of operating funds!). What they DIDN'T do was arrogantly keep putting the exact same levy up every time! Get a clue, Perkins!

PTBarnumWouldBeProud

....and they got the federal stimulus money that Perkins didn't get because so many folks were hung up about a fountain on an architect's rendering.

fifteenthgreen

What fountain?

PTBarnumWouldBeProud

In the architects drawings from the first attempt at getting the new high school and middle school built (separate buildings at the time, with about a third of the money coming from the Federal Stimulus Program) depicted a fountain in a round-a-bout on one of the roads leading into the campus.

Many folks in the community looked upon that with ire, seeing it as a symbol of wasteful spending for buildings that many felt we did not need.

I'll put it out there now that the levy vote has taken place. I do in fact work in the Perkins district. When Dr. Gunner came on board, one of the first things that he told us, as a staff, was that in his mind, we were on the ground floor of training students for jobs that haven't even been invented. In my opinion, that was a very powerful statement.

As many of the people opposed to the levy (and/or the administration) stated, this community has changed. It certainly has. Despite not "being a part of the community" (which has been a bur under many a saddle for voters) Dr. Gunner (with the blessing of the board) approached his helm with the district by being what some might call "forward thinking." This is one of the main reasons for Perkins becoming a "1 to 1 laptop district." We were, and to a degree still are, on the cutting edge when it comes preparing students to think in the global community that they are going to be a part of. They aren't just going to be competing with the student at the desk next to them for "that job" in the future. They're going to have to compete with students from all over the planet.

The pursuit of a new high school/middle school, in my opinion, isn't one of "look at me, I got a building built"....but rather a natural progression for the direction that the board and Dr. Gunner have chosen to take the district. Could they have done a better job of promoting their vision of "21st century learning" to the community? That is evident after the vote this spring. Could the community have taken a more "lets see what they've got to say" approach to what they were/are attempting to accomplish? Probably, but we are all well within our rights to be as active, or inactive, in the political process as we wish.

I'm not half the expert on school finances that RMyer is, so I'm not going to pretend to be, but I think that I can say with confidence that Dr. Gunner and the board have done an admirable job at not having to go to the community for financial support until very recently.

Lastly, while the results didn't turn out the way I had hoped, isn't it great that we live in a country where we get to have these debates/discussions about issues that spark our passion?

Edwin Ison

A simple question.
Why did Gunner not shore up the operations budget BEFORE moving money away?
Was it incompetence or arrogance?

PTBarnumWouldBeProud

That is a question that I cannot answer.

PyrkinsPyrate

Your hero Gunner and the board never had to ask for money before because they were riding on the back of 20 years of sound financial management. They started to need money when their overspending caught up with them. No money was ever set aside for buildings and improvements because that money was squandered on laptops so students can post blog comments at 3am on a weeknight.

Bherrle

Pyrate,

If you are referring to the current blogs, or any in fact since the end of the school year, that is not possible. The students turn in the laptops at the end of every school year.

underthebridge

You really don't get it! The objection to the previous plan was that it did not represent a savings to the taxpayer. It represented getting twice as much as they would've for the money. That is a big difference.

KURTje

How much does this cost to put the same stuff up for "re-vote." While not from this zone, similar things like this happen everywhere.

Ok WTF

Looks like they better learn to start working with what they have....like the rest of us have to do. Only once that is appreciated will there be a chance of a levy passing. Unfortunately they will make darn sure that it is the kids that suffer with another failed levy :/ Too bad we don't vote for who we put in charge of these dollars.

PyrkinsPyrate

This is deplorable. This is contempt of democracy. If the levy had passed I would have shrugged and accepted that idiots outnumbered sane and rational people. But I would have lived with it and had the humility of a McCain or Romney "the voters have spoken" concession speech. This disregard.....it is just sickening.

Perkins Resident

Which just turned my families yes votes into no votes.

VOTENO

Someone bring the Starbucks, someone bring the cigarettes, and someone bring the lottery ticket. I'll bring the 6 pack. We can sit back and enjoy this show!

VOTE NO IN NOVEMBER! AGAIN!

registerer

Does anyone know what the school pays to have these levies put on the ballot is?

VOTENO

I heard about $15k per election.

VOTENO

Could've saved a teachers job with all the election fees we voted no on.

Bherrle

It all depends on how many issues are on the ballot, from which entities. Different entities with issues on the ballot share the cost of the elect. It is not always the amount.

Cowboy

Is there a way we can sue the school board for these shenanigans?

VOTENO

No, but we can keep voting NO!

Tsu Dho Nimh

How many board members' seats are up this fall? That is where you want to start.

WesTaylor

2.....5 are running, and only Chapman is re-running

VOTENO

How soon can we get our absentee ballots so we can VOTE NO? AGAIN?

AllTheAnswers

Gunner set up meeting with State Representatives
Gunner move inside millage back
Gunner cancel MS laptop program this year
Gunner cancel laptops for HS at conclusion of school year
Gunner resign by 8/15/13
Gasteire hire as interim Super for 1 year
Meadowlawn either shift Finn over or hire a young gun outside of system
Agree to no less than 18 month study on buildings using community volunteer group
Voters voice to be heard in November
Engage the public
Open schools to public use such as Southern US schools (parks and rec)

Would a levy pass under these circumstances?

Fromthe419

Wait, I thought the operating expenses were covered now. The pay to play covers the extra expenses, they laid off teachers and cut expenses now the budget is balanced...right? Then why do they need to put the levy on the ballot in November? Oh, because it is a need building levy, I got it now (sarcasm)

Webster

It failed with Matt Westerhold's endorsement, so much for the power of the press.

Good 2 B Me

Didn't Gunner BLAME the Register last time for the Levy Failing. Hmmm...odd.

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fanatic

The SR states in this article that this LEVY will be on the ballot again in November as a Renewal. How can it be a Renewal when it has yet to be passed by election? I WILL CONTINUE TO VOTE NO UNTIL THIS AREA HAS SHOWN AN INCREASE IN THE ECONOMY AND JOBS. There are far too many home owners that are struggling to pay their bills and put food on the table. Even those that aren't struggling should not be asked to give up more of the money to tax increases when they worked hard for 30 or 40 years preparing for a comfortable retirement. They worked hard when there were jobs here! They deserve a BREAK from the rising cost of living! The school systems (all of them) should have managed their money better over the years so that there would NOT be an emergency. Sorry, but if the community has to tighten their belts, so does the school system. AND, if you have children in any school system that want to play sports, the fundraising groups that support those sports should make greater efforts to raise funds to provide for uniforms, travel, and practice equipment. Ask the community to donate rather than forcing them to pay more when so many are retired, on fixed incomes or living with very little income. Most people that are working have not seen raises in their earned income and paying more in taxes will only make it more difficult for our community to live here. Why would anyone want to add higher taxes that would result in having to tighten your budget even more? Remember that we are all going to have to pay the high cost of health insurance come January, or go on welfare. Which do you prefer?

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Alissa Widman Neese

I've corrected the statement about the levy being a renewal.

VOTENO

Alissa, you should call Margaretta and Huron to see if anyone called today to inquire about open enrollment. Try Sandusky and St. Mary also. Would be interesting to see how many kids are jumping ship. Might want to check with Perkins to see if any open enrollment kids are backing out also. Check with Perkins to see when the pay to play fees are due. That would make a great article.

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Alissa Widman Neese

District enrollment numbers should be available closer to the start of school. Pay-to-participate fee payment methods are still being worked out, board members said today, but all $730 for a sport will not have to be paid on the first day of school. It could be a gradual payment system throughout the year.

VOTENO

Thank you for the information Alissa. It will be interesting to see how many kids leave the Perkins District due to the fees Gunner and the Board approved. Please keep up on this. The BOE's of the other Districts should be able to tell you if they have received applications or phone calls from parents inquiring about their Districts. Thanks again.

Edwin Ison

If Gunner or the board had any decency about them they would suspend the fees for fall sports.

Tsu Dho Nimh

I agree it would make a good article. Wonder how many Sandusky parents will move their kids "home"?

VOTENO

I've heard other districts in the area have had quite a few phone calls inquiring about open enrollment. That's why I brought this up to Alissa.

WesTaylor

Wow. You must know alot of people! To be blogging all day, and still have the time to answer phone calls informing you of other districts open enrollment.

My thoughts

Who did you hear this from? Just curious.

Edwin Ison

Allisa Widman.

Please correct the article. The levy is NOT a renewal.

Thanks.

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Alissa Widman Neese

I've corrected the story.

Edwin Ison

Thanks

donutshopguy

I believe it was about $13K for the August election. I don't believe that the November and May elections are the same cost. Most likely less or nothing. If I'm wrong please feel free to pass out the correct information.

dire wolf

More importantly to the school board, it's football season!!

queenjhb

I wonder what will be handed out [free] in November, not ice cream , too cold , maybe just maybe, frozen turkeys, as this turkey is cooked, please vote no in November.

gramafun

How many ways can the people in Perkins say NO before the board "gets it"?

Lil DAB

Clyde-Green Springs voters overwhelmingly defeated an emergency operating levy for the FIFTH straight time Tuesday, with more than 60 percent voting no on the ballot measure...May 7th, 2013
It was such an 'emergency' they have created a new administrative position, Dean of Students, for the middles school! To help out the newly hired principal.
http://voteno43410.webs.com/levy...

VOTENO

Attention SR: see my above post.

OH-IO

Perkins sucks! They are selfish citizens that don't even care about their youth. I could NEVER live there.

Tool Box

You have no idea what our issues are so shut the fffuk up Mr. OH-IO

OH-IO

I'm very versed on your foolishness Mr. Tool Box so you shut the fffuk up!!!!

OH-IO

Furthermore Mr. Tool Box stop dating your sister.

VOTENO

He finally kicked your mom out?

OH-IO

At least my mom came from a community that supported their children. Your mom didn't support you and now your legal name is VOTENO. LOL

VOTENO

Was that supposed to be funny?

Cowboy

Actually I think he's doing your wife and daughter OHIO!

OH-IO

Noticed your daughter and wife didn't come home this weekend? We had a goodtime Cowboy and will this weekend too. We play horsey.

Pecwilliamsen

Special elections like yesterday's do cost the organization, approx $13k. The voting during General Elections like this November have no oat to the issue or candidate as we all pay for this General Election.
More important is that today is the deadline to file petitions to be on the Nov ballot. Who's submitting a petition for the School Board, you Perkins2060? you donutshopguy? You BobShumway? You PerkinsResident? Lets be part of the solution, would enjoy your involvement in the district beyond this platform.

donutshopguy

You Pecwilliamsen?

I'm ready to start with my involvement. The superintendent and school board haven't listened but you are going to save the day?

believeit

Listened to you from a blog? No, get to decision-making, not just say no. I would love to listen to your ideas when decisions actually have to be made.

NamesArentImportant

Gunner needs to STOP. Simple as that. Pull this levy for a bit and rethink how to handle this. Come back with ideas that aren't pathetic and doesn't Perkins look whiny and spoiled, even though we are. We're losing students, teachers, and funds because Gunner can't get his stuff together! I'm disappointed, not in the voters, in the leaders.

EZOB

OH-IO,
Your first 2 words were correct. Spending money on your child doesn't guarantee you will raise a superior child. In fact, most times it turns out the complete opposite. Everyone in Perkins was use to luxury and times have changed. O'Bama told everyone that "Change" was coming, well it's here.
Remember when Gunner called their bluff and said hire me now or I'm taking another position. I said to call His bluff and let him go. He sure out-smarted the Board but a lot of us could see right through it.

Cowboy

Seems he was playing games from the beginning!

donutshopguy

EZOB,

Brother, you hit the nail directly on the head.

I was absolutely enflamed two days after he shook my hand and told me how much he was looking forward to moving here and being part of our community while still in the running for his dream job with Oregon.

I would have sent him packing.

queenjhb

Gunner is a bully ,and the BOE do his bidding , time to change , surely not all board members follow him, I hope we see someone on the board take a stand , after all they need to respect the voters decision. Don't dismiss us.

Bherrle

I'd like to see some proof of the scenario you describe above. If you are going to make a statement like that, back it up with fact.

Transplant1

Pecwilliamsen is absolutly correct. As i have said in these forums before, when are people going to stop pointing fingers and do something.....Gunner this, BOE that, YES voters this NO voters that. SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING. If you are a land owner and have not gone to the State of Ohio then you are in the wrong. FAIL FOR THE LANDOWNERS especially the ones complaining about the other side Yes vs No and all of your false hopes and promises to win the next time.

Cowboy

We have done something..WE VOTED! Isn't that good enough anymore?

Cowboy

I guess the American way isn't good enough for Gunner!

donutshopguy

Transplant1,

Can we clean up our act locally before we take on the state?

Doody

I wonder what the early morning post election day board meeting would have been about had the levy passed. Also curious how the supporters of the levy plan to change people's minds in November by calling them names and using their children as pawns of manipulation tactics. Not even sure why it's fair that non-homeowners can vote on property taxes at all; didn't someone already say that was unconstitutional?

Transplant1

Its not good enough to properly pay for schools. As of now the land owners pay for schools. It has been ruled unconstitutional the way the state of ohio funds schools. It does not matter what any school board does, run properly or not, the money ultimately comes from land owners and their property taxes.

beesknees

The members of the Perkins School Board _________.
a) do not have ears
b) have group think
c) do not respect the majority vote
d) should relieve Gunner of his position immediately and then resign
e) all of the above correctly complete the sentence.

Answer: e

underthebridge

this is the best post on this article!

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