Unofficial results: Perkins levy fails

About 54 percent of township voters opposed tax levy
Sandusky Register Staff
Aug 6, 2013

 

Unofficial results from the Erie County Board of Elections shows the Perkins School District levy lost by about 340 votes. 

The final tally of the 4,624 votes cast, according to the elections office:

• Against the levy: 2,482, or about 54 percent of the total.  

• For the levy: 2,142, or about 46 percent of the total.  

Be sure to pick up Wednesday's Register for reactions and comments from voters and school officials. 

 

Comments

observer

Gunner must go.

Erie Countian

I agree! I don't think a levy will pass until he is gone. Now I'm hearing that Gunner is going to retire at the end of the upcoming school year. Does anyone know if this is true?

Cowboy

Looks like the chap in the white shirt is already drinking the Kool-aid for the next election! They are starting earlier and earlier! FIRE GUNNER and PUT THE MILLAGE BACK WHERE IT SHOULD BE!!!!

Hoss McGee

Looks like Strohl will be cleaning out his desk and office this week. Oh my bad that was just a scare tactic. Or did you find some extra money laying around? Stick to your word Gunner!!!

Cowboy

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how much money is all of a sudden found to keep things running. FIRE GUNNER, don't give him the satisfaction of retiring and collecting a pension! A levy will NOT pass as long as he is connected to the Perkins BOE!

thomtom

Oh wait... let me go get my popcorn for this...

Perkins2060

VOTE NO IN NOVEMBER!

bobshumway92

+1

CAST THE FIRST STONE

let the punishment begin

bobshumway92

Get Gunner on the record SR.

beborcott

might as well start now. VOTE NO IN NOVEMBER!

bobshumway92

I am hoping the Board members listen and fire Gunner tomorrow. It's time to move on and bring the District back together.

Bherrle

Fire Dr. Gunner. Without any legal cause. And pay out the rest of his contract (over a year), while we also pay another Superintendent.

That makes a lot of sense Bob. And you have the gall to criticize what is being spent.

As Forrest Gump was told in boot camp - "Bob, you must be a God D*** genius!

queenjhb

@ bherrle sour grapes! The people have voted, respect them.

fifteenthgreen

He's showing his true colors, queenjhb. Please let him rant!

Bherrle

Please explain to me how BOb's plan of paying two Super's for over a years makes sense?

Not ranting. Just calling BS when I see it.

Fromthe419

Can someone explain to me why Super's have anything more than I one year contract? Do the job well and you get extended, perform poorly and you are out. Only in the public sector can you get job security while performing badly.

WesTaylor

That's a great way to make sure you get 0 quality applicants. Great idea!

Edwin Ison

There is plenty of just cause.

Look at his job performance...and take off your rose colored glasses first.

Cowboy

Bherrle....looks like you have plenty of reason to get rid of Gunner here if he's not performing! He can't pass a levy and he does NOT care about the voters! We will back you up on that! Fire Gunner NOW!

Bherrle

I have no interest in firing Dr. Gunner.

bobshumway92

Where's bherrle and Rmeyer?

beborcott

Gunner needs to go. He has been trying to pad his resume for this State superintendent job and foot us with the bill for years.

Bherrle

What????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fifteenthgreen

?

Bherrle

What is Bob talking about?

BooBeeDo

beborcott: I totally agree with you.I still do not understand why Gunner who was the Superintendent of his hometown would want to leave that position for one that includes a very long daily drive. I have talked to a few people at CP that are aware of Gunner's history. They said that there is a lot of disdain for him in Bryan and are glad we are now "stuck" with him.
May 24, 2010 in SR: Gunner said he had been searching for a perfect “fit” for his family, and he is eager to relocate and jump into his duties.

“It has been a long process in terms of my searching for new opportunities for myself and my family,” he said.
Hmmm, to my knowledge he is still living in Bryan, Ohio. If there was truly a family health issue that detoured him from relocating he most assuredly should have resolved that issue by now. He is just a person that cannot be trusted. He has his own agenda at Perkins taxpayer expense.It has no effect on him.
Gunner and the BOE need to listen to the voter's.The citizens have spoken.

beborcott

Although, he is probably too busy doing the King Kong Challenge (alone, I mean look at the guy) at Chet and Matt's with his levy supporters.

WesTaylor

He wasn't there. Some of the best teachers in the area were, however. It's a shame some of them will be taking their talents elsewhere.....

goodtime1212

Anyone know ware he was??? This is his baby, he should at least be in the Township for it. If he wasn't I don't understand how anyone can stand up and support him.

Bherrle

Yes, I know where he was. At 7:30 PM, he was still at the school working. What a un-dedicated guy he is, he only put in 12 hours today. Real tough to support someone with that kind of work ethic.

dire wolf

he must have been working on the wrong project, me thinks.. He should go home and rethink his priorities to the school district.

Good 2 B Me

Did the teachers take their talents to South Beach?

WesTaylor

Not that I am aware of. Several neighboring districts, and a few out of state.

Cowboy

Bherrle......Were you with him wiping his mouth when he spilled his Kool-aid? Or were you kissing him and then wiping his collar from all your lipstick? Either way, you need to quit listening to him, he's only gonna pull you down!

Bherrle

Cowboy,

I was not with him, and I disagree with you. I will also not take advice from someone who has made comments such as the one you just made.

FearistheMindKiller

Hey Goodtime,

This isn't the super's "baby," it's the children of this township's education. Or have you and all the other's who are obsessed with the super forgetting that?

juher

really, seriously .... this is all you have better to amuse yourself with?

bobshumway92

I guess this means Gunner isn't moving here any time soon?

fifteenthgreen

Exactly, Bob. The district will be dismantled by the end of the week and all will be lost. Simply not the case.

bobshumway92

LOL!

EZOB

I'm guessing it's football as usual.

obx8160

Congrats to all you who voted no. Tell me, you didn't want to pay $200 a year to support the schools but you will smoke one or two packs of cigarettes a day, or drink a six or twelve pack a week, or stop and get coffee every day. How much are you spending on those things. If you don't believe you get a benefit from quality public schools you are incorrect.

bobshumway92

Now you are going to tell us how to spend OUR money? No wonder your levy keeps failing!

senioritis

No, no one should tell you how to spend your money. But if the shoe fits, we'll just call you Cinderella.

bobshumway92

Keep up that kind of rhetoric and your levy will fail again in November! You people are way too easy!

senioritis

And so are your comments.

bobshumway92

Sore loser

Common Sense

What kind of graceful "winner" are you?

bobshumway92

Having a Starbucks, carton of cigarettes, and a six pack. You know, your talking points!

coasterfan

I don't think he is telling you how to spend your money. He is telling you that your priorities are wrong, if you say you "don't have money" for something as obviously important as education, but DO spend an equal amount on things like cigarettes and beer.

The point is that no one should have to tell you to support education - it's something that you should realize and do on your own. It's not just about doing the right thing, by providing the same financial support for today's students that yesteryear's adults provided for you. It's that good schools encourage good teachers and good students to stay, and poor schools are a recipe for lower property values. To not support schools because you have an axe to grind w/an administrator is sadly short-sighted...

bobshumway92

See you at the poles in November!

FearistheMindKiller

Poles?

You going to Poland Bob?

A strip club?

Or did your superior education fail you, and you don't realize the process and place of voting is referred to as "polls" and not poles?

Beautiful, you represent the trolls of the SR's comment section so eloquently.

bobshumway92

Between my excitement and the auto correct on my iPhone, I misspelled a word. However, I would love to meet face to face with you and explain this in further detail. Please name the time and place.

Perkins Resident

It's people like you Fear that cause levies to fail. Rather than attacking someone for mispelling a word or criticizing them for voting no, why not try to be positive? I have voted yes on every levy Perkins had, but the current leadership does not accept the will of the people. I will be voting no in November.

starryeyes83

Ragging on an occasional typo? Seriously? We all do it from time to time. I do.

VOTENO

No kidding! She must be perfect!

queenjhb

@ coasterfan, What anyone decides to do with their money ,use it for bills, food, medicine is not a luxury, that you look down on us and try to lump us [ and you really believe it] as chain smoking, beer belching, with caffeinated coffee shakes, low life, tells a lot more about you than us. Stay out of my wallet.

FearistheMindKiller

Right on Bob, it's called creating a shared community with common interests for the betterment of all. You and your attitude are what are at the root of the status quo.

It's people like Bob and all the zealots screaming VOTE NO that can now accept part of the responsibility for the decline of Perkins schools and this township as a whole. If you can't support something so basic and fundamental as education of children, what exactly do you support?

If you want to live without paying taxes I respect that. Sure would be nice if our government didn't spend another billon dollars today to spy on us or blow up more innocent civilians in other nations. But you know what? It's important that we have our priorities straight!

WE AS A NATION MUST FOCUS MORE ENERGY AND ATTENTION ON INVADING AND PLUNDERING OTHER NATIONS! WE SHOULD NOT SPEND OUR NATION'S TREASURE ON THE EDUCATION OF CHILDREN.

BOMBS!

BULLETS!

DRONES!

WAR!

WAR!

WAR!

Fund the wars! Praise be to DHS, NSA, FBI, CIA, NRO, DARPA etc....

Would not surprise me at all to find that a large portion of the vote no crowd also supports the above mentioned sarcasm.

God forbid we get re-aligned as a nation of citizens to look locally and do what is needed to do the best possible job to educate our youth, give them opportunities to shine with athletics, art, music, math and sciences.

So, for all you who screamed all summer for the citizens to vote no I have a question.

Who voted YES for you when you were in school? Who voted yes for your children when they were in school? Who will vote yes for your grandchildren when they are in school?

Lil DAB

Economics were much different in the era our parents were working and paying for our school. No one is living "without paying taxes." Have you checked how much of your property taxes are going to what entity? 65% is already going to the schools. So to allude that voting NO is not supporting schools, kids, teachers & the community is just an escape from your reality of losing. Sorry. But people are more informed at the POLLS now and are educating themselves before voting regarding where the money comes from and where it's going!

VOTENO

What a troll!

VOTENO

Dude, go take your meds.

chongo

Well no, i didn't want to pay an extra 200 a year. I'm sorry, maybe you would like to, but I for one don't. Sorry, but honesty isn't something that everyone wants to hear all the time. I'll vote yes when our state government does what they were supposed to do a long while back, reform how we fund our school systems..

partyboy

I agree chongo....our federal government held up on a 1.8 billion dollar aid pack for egypt because of the civil unrest there.....r u kidding me 1.8 billion for them and they turn there back on our educational system...someones priorities r screwed up

fifteenthgreen

Agree!!!

Bherrle

Yeah, the federal government is messed up. I agree.

So to teach them a lesson, let's vote no on this school levy. That's sound logic.

I'm going to go kick my dog right now, because my cat keeps shitting in the corner of the living room rather than it's litter box.

fifteenthgreen

temper, temper

FearistheMindKiller

Bherrle,

Nice analogy, so fitting.

It would be a beautiful day if all these citizens who voted no on supporting the education of our children took to the streets with the same enthusiasm and told our federal government no to spending BILLIONS on the War Department.

Just imagine if the War Department had to reduce it's budget by just 25% and that money was shifted to local schools?

Who in their rational right mind trusts our federal government and all the bureaucrats the spend these billions? So if you don't trust the local school district administration you vote no, with a great deal of enthusiasm...as is your right. Do you do the same with the feds who waste BILLIONS AND BILLIONS?

VOTENO

You must be the art teacher that lost her job.

Common Sense

Have either of you responded with letters to your state representatives? Have you asked your community to sponsor a letter writing campaign? When was the last time education placed enough pressure on our state representatives that they responded favorably? Tough questions for all of us to answer.

coasterfan

This situation, of course, is a direct result of Kasich's policies: less state funds for education forces local districts to somehow find additional funds.

KnuckleDragger

You mean a bad situation, like an $8 billion dollar shortfall left by Gov Strickland? Nice how you conveniently left that out. I think you will soon find out that the levy went down to defeat due to senior citizens. The fact is that most of these people on a fixed income cannot afford another levy. Why should they be taxed out of their homes so that Perkins can build the Taj Mahal? If they were serious about raising money for the schools, they would do what many districts are doing, that is put a school income tax on the ballot. Doing this would generate the needed revenue and the seniors would not be on the hook since it only taxes earned income. It would also hit the apartment dwellers who have earned income but escape the levy taxes because they are not property owners. This is the only fair way to do it. As a matter of principle I will never vote for another levy. The Ohio Supreme Court ruled these levy's unconstitutional, and the only way to force the legislature to change how education is funded is to put the heat on by not passing a levy. Sometimes you have to make tough decisions to force change. You really should try it sometime.

beborcott

So judgmental! You seem to forget that we live in a society where one can choose to have a beer, smoke a cigarette, and vote. I graduated from Perkins relatively recently and currently hold a Master's degree. I credit one teacher I had at Perkins for supporting me. The rest couldn't care less. Vote no.

Common Sense

The fact that you earned a master's degree states that, somewhere along the way, something they all did stuck and helped to make you the person you are today. After all, if you were a failure, it would be the school's fault, yes?

partyboy

You are such a fool..it is all about trusting the administration...they are very shady and the community spoke. It is a sad day for Perkins. Time to get someone that has interest in the community and roots..Gastier!!!

ladylake

I don't smoke, drink alcohol , or coffee, and still cannot afford an increase in my taxes.

coasterfan

Lady: I understand and appreciate your situation. The obvious solution is to elect a new governor, one who will not continue to cut state funding for education, since this puts the onus on local municipalities to provide increased funding for schools. Kasich took a bad situation and made it worse.

God Of Thunder

Thank you for the congrats... And it's none of your business what we spend on those things because, guess what...We bust our a** to make the extra to spend on ourselves, not a pathetically ran school system to fund their mistakes. You might be appalled at what I spend... And yes, I feel good about it..

Until the district gets their priorities in order, and we get a super we can trust, as I've said before, I will not volunteer another penny of my hard earned money.

coasterfan

God Thunder: Spoken like a true Republican: in it for yourself, with no sense of responsibility to do anything for the common good. Of course, when the snow piles up on your street, when a tornado hits your house, or when your garage catches fire, THEN you'll expect all of the benefits of things that are funded with your/our taxes.

My district has had despicable people running the show, too, and I work every bit as hard for my salary as you do for yours, but I've always done the right thing for the kids, because any problems with the school administration aren't their fault, and because today's retired folks paid for MY education when I was a kid.

queenjhb

@ coasterfan,You can still donate money to the school, heck ,your so dedicated you can get a second and third job and donate it all to the school. So, your saying that my needing the money to pay bills and for medicine[ my hard earned money] should be given to the schools? Your a bit selfish. Have a beer and some free ice cream.

God Of Thunder

Funny.... I voted for the democrat side... I'm independent.. I vote for who I think is best. Eat crow..

When the snow hits, the plows push it into my driveway, so I snow blow my driveway clear... If a tornado hits or my garage catches fire, I have insurance, so I will need nothing from our taxes... Again...Eat crow

JJr12

Being Republican has nothing to do with it. I'm a Republican and I donate more money and time to the school than this levy would have made me pay in addition. Political stance has nothing to do with this Levy. Though you as a Dem believe that doing something for the common good involves other people paying for it.

I support the schools because of what the school does for my children. Political stance has no bearing on this issue. What some don't realize that is this school system does care about the children. All the way down to the preschool age. Programs that help not only the kids but helps the parents help the kids. They deal with autistic children and they change lives for the better with what they do. My children have benefited from these programs, programs that you don't see because they aren't out front displayed on the football field. Programs that don't win championships and because of this they aren't seen. But it is these programs that do so much that will suffer.

What do you think the State is going to do when more and more school districts can't afford to run the education system on their own? The State is just going to raise taxes in order to generate more funds for the education system. Now that tax hike will be a lot more than what this Levy would have done.

dire wolf

i don't smoke or drink, and i make my coffee at home every morning, but i still can't afford the extra tax, even after our school spending account was transferred to give us the third best football field in the county. However, if you would be so kind as to send me a check every year for my portion of the $200+ dollars i would have to pay, i would love to give you my yes vote. The KIDS and I sure would appreciate it. Thanks, obx160!

transplant

No, I don't want to pay $200 a year. I can't afford it. I don't smoke or drink or drink coffee. I dont have health insurance. i dont drive a fancy car. I cant afford to move. I dont have anyone in the school system so I shouldnt have to pay for other peoples kids to do extracurricular activities. I just can't afford it. Sorry.

WeThePeople1965

No, YOU tell ME: Why can't there be a pay cut for the Super and the administration and the principals who make about $100G? Why can't the school system at least instill a fee schedule for students' needs based on classes/services, paid by parents? Sorry, but my money that I earn by working long hours with sick patients is not worth paying to people who sit on their hind ends all day signing papers. Pretty physically and mentally taxing, huh?

Oh, and the only way students can get a benefit from education- public or not- is by being taught the material and reading the material, not by every taxpayer in Perkins Twp paying the school district. There is NO PARALLEL around here between money and learning. It's what the students put into their education.

chongo

take a look at the underlying issue... they had people and kids going door to door, and only managed 4,624 total votes... What's the estimated population of Perkins?

Bherrle

There are a little over 10,000 registered voters. Turn out was less than 50%.

fifteenthgreen

Now will the teachers union attack the BOE and Gunner in negotiations or has it already been settled?

beborcott

Good

WesTaylor

Negotiations are over.......the two sides calmly accepted a contract last week.

fifteenthgreen

Why was it hush hush?

fifteenthgreen

Wage increases?

WesTaylor

No. Increase in health care costs, and pay freezes for the next 3 years minimum.

fifteenthgreen

Respectable decision.

citizen

The district will be dismantled.

We will no longer have the Perkins School District.

All students will pay $730 per extracurricular/sport activity.

14 teachers laid off.

Buildings that pose an immediate threat to the safety and well-being of students and community.

Let's see how many of those threats come to pass....

Board, the ball is in your court. Get rid of Gunner.

fifteenthgreen

Time to back it up BOE and Gunner!

WesTaylor

They already have happened. Several students quit volleyball and football today. The teachers were released at the beginning of the month. sad.....

fifteenthgreen

Agree. Sad for now, Wes.

WesTaylor

Not true. Not even close. They were all notified to look elsewhere for a job.....some of the best teachers I have met, too! So sad.

Edwin Ison

You must be furious with Gunner and the board!

Bherrle

Nope. I'm perplexed by the people that didn't come out to vote, and by the 2,482 people who voted no.

In my opinion, you don't realize how good you have it here. You don't know what you got, till it's gone.

Be careful what you wish for folks, you might just get it.

fifteenthgreen

Check back in a few weeks. Watch! For example, are they really going to let John K. teach that band program by himself. Over 150 kids. No way!

WesTaylor

They got rid of band in Meadowlawn and Briar......So he just has to be at the high school. Not to be rude, but it seems as though you have been misinformed....

fifteenthgreen

But we're keeping one HS Chinese teacher and an expensive laptop program?

WesTaylor

Chinese teacher is free to the district. How expensive is the laptop program? I am asking because you said it is expensive, so I am assuming you know how much.

fifteenthgreen

According to RMyer, a middle school teacher and the treasurers report, the laptop lease exceeds $250,000 annually! You have to agree that this could have been one area that we could have found a way around to save jobs and programs. Implement a computer/laptop lab fee to cover costs. I had to provide my own.

FearistheMindKiller

Have to agree on the laptop computer program. Although I can see some of the benefits, all in all it created an expensive support infrastructure and truly wasn't needed. It did make it easier for teachers to keep in touch with the students, and for the students to have all their assignments organized electronically. As well as easy submission of homework. However, for years most of us did this without laptops.

I say get eliminate bussing before teachers.

VOTENO

So you are a teacher! LOL!

FearistheMindKiller

VoteNo,

So if we used your logic would that make you a bus driver? Seriously, your comments make no logical sense. I on the other hand use sarcasm and dry puns to make a few points. Poor Bob actually wants to duke it out now!

Isn't that an invasion of privacy to try and call me on out on my profession? Aren't many voter no people screaming about how nobody should tell them what to spend their money on, but yet you're goading others to try and point out their job? You seem to be a little excited by the possibility of me being a teacher and the joy it that might consume you if you could have a target that is employed by the school district.

And what if I was a janitor for the schools that cleaned crappy toilets and mopped dried ketchup off the cafeteria floor? Would it matter then? Would you care if I were a landscaper who busted his butt 12 hours a day all summer to make a living? Or a railroad engineer that had to spend long hours away? How about a doctor that is interested in having a modern progressive community that cares for it's schools and the future of our children?

I doubt you could really care about any of those scenarios. No, I'm not a teacher. I know one thing, a lot of citizens in Perkins hate teachers, employees of the school system and people that support the schools.

The bitterness of the vote no crowd is overwhelming and noxious. I seriously doubt any vote no'ers would vote yes even if Gunner moved to Perkins Twp., got fired or if he came up with some magic formula to find solvency. You're minds are set, so really this is all just a playground of words and barbs being traded back and forth that accomplishes nothing but makes people feel good that they could post their feelings on the SR anonymously. Sorry Bob if I offended you, but I acted on the moment and had to laugh when I saw your typo, which is not unusual with iPhones, they are pesky on the thumbs.

Have a lovely evening.

Good 2 B Me

The 'Best' Teachers would not be let go. They would find a way to keep the best.

WesTaylor

I can't name names, but I can assure you....some really talented teachers are gone. They are already at other districts.

coasterfan

Good 2 B: In a situation such as this, good teachers leave for better pastures. The job is hard enough when you have a chance to succeed. If you suddenly had to do the job of 2 people, and had an opportunity to work in another district where #1: people support education and #2: you aren't overworked, what would YOU do?

VOTENO

I would petition Gunner to stop open enrollment.

Good 2 B Me

I would do what is in my best interest. I would never consider being a teacher. So, I guess that solves my issue

KnuckleDragger

Good luck with that. Most districts in Ohio are not doing great economically. In fact Ohio is one of the most difficult states in the nation to get a teaching job in. Either districts are cutting back or you have to know someone (ie: have a family member teaching for the district) to get in.

eriemom

Yep. Had to keep coaches and multi-age teachers.

WesTaylor

what does multi-age teachers have to do with anything? The cost is the exact same. Weird comment.

eriemom

"The 'Best' Teachers would not be let go. They would find a way to keep the best".

Related to this post. What is weird is that you didn't include the coach part. True?

Edwin Ison

They quit even before the vote was tallied?

WesTaylor

Yes. I know a few of them who already found jobs elsewhere..... our loss. Man, this hurts.

Edwin Ison

No, I meant the kids who quit sports on voting day.
Gotta love this reply format.

WesTaylor

They told their coaches that they couldn't play if the levy failed. Most of them are multi-sport players, so they had to pick and choose.

VOTENO

Hopefully they will transfer to another district without Gunners fees.

Common Sense

They were anticipating the worst and the no voters delivered.

Wald

Or maybe they were anticipating that there were people with "common sense" in the district that wouldn't keep feeding money to a fiscally irresponsible BOE.

EZOB

You don't need a new school for a quality education. How about the Ivy League Schools or a Rhodes Scholar-Cambridge in England. Some of the oldest schools are most noted for an excellent Education. On the local level, how about St.Marys. They constantly graduate the smartest kids in the area all of whom can actually read, write, and do arithmetic.

coasterfan

Meh... Parochial schools don't have to teach the general population. The one in my town would punt kids with repeated discipline problems; the public schools, of course, would have to take them in. Let me teach kids who are from a higher economic strata, stable home environments where parents value education, and I'll succeed, too.

lifetimeresident

I for one voted for the levy. But the people have spoken. Parents, why are we letting one man destroy our District. Any suggestions on how to move foward in November.

bobshumway92

Removing Gunner would be a good start.

eriemom

Gastier and Janitski know how to serve the entire community.

fifteenthgreen

Stop with the smoke screens would be another way!

Bherrle

One man cannot destroy a district. 2,482 people, however, have a much better chance.

fifteenthgreen

His words, not mine, bherrle and 2,482 people that you are going to need to convince differently in November.

Wald

No, but raising taxes for a fiscally irresponsible super and BOE could destroy a district.

Edwin Ison

Maybe one man cannot, but six are giving it a hell of a go.

donutshopguy

The people of this community have spoken again. Why is no one listening?

goodtime1212

this is the 3rd time, they only need to be lucky one time. If they play the game long enough,sooner or later they think they will get there way.

Bherrle

I hear them Donut. They are saying, we have our principles, and we are willing to risk doing serious damage to this district and community to stick to them, right or wrong.

They are saying, wait until after the November BOE election to decide on buildings, and define for us financial stability, that would tell me that you are not just going to do what you want to do. That would give me reason to vote yes. And then they say, nah, we didn't really mean that, we are voting no anyway.

Sorry, but I have a real problem with people who don't stand behind what they say, who ask for something and then ignore it. Whose really running the smokescreen here, as someone stated earlier?

Good 2 B Me

Are you drunk?

queenjhb

Bherrle, wow, you really don't respect that the voters have spoken. A democracy is at work here, you aren't our dictator. Try being humble, we all can't afford this increase. Since you can ,please donate your money used on bills, food and medicine, then I'll listen to your selfish rants.

Bherrle

If someone Voted No simply because they can't afford it, I respect that. But I saw a lot of people using this vote as a vote on the board, Super, or buildings. Sending a message. Using a vote on an issue to further another agenda is not democracy.

Edwin Ison

Brad... any vote for any reason is democracy.

The voters have power of the purse, at times this is the only control available and the only true way to affect change.

I cannot believe you have such disrespect for the democratic process.

beestee

The poorly educated voters strike again ! Education is the key to a successful community. period. Holding the children's education hostage to prove a point about Gunner is absolutely ridiculous.
VOTE YES IN NOVEMBER.

bobshumway92

I urge the yes voters to continue with comments like the one above. That will secure another NO vote in November! Vote NO in November!

God Of Thunder

Sorry Bob...I fell asleep halfway thru reading beestees comment...YAWN...What did it say????

fifteenthgreen

Check out those state scores on the ODE website and then we'll talk about a successful education! Much work to do. There is hope people but you need to direct your attention to that of new leadership.

partyboy

There lies the problem..insults on well educated community This was meant foe Beestee

beborcott

Well said Partyboy. I wonder what the education of Beestee is. GED, HS Diploma, Associates Degree?! Lol.

Good 2 B Me

Poorly educated you say? That is exactly the kind of thinking that someone that wants us to sign a blank check to the BOE and Gunner uses.

WeThePeople1965

So it takes taxpayer $$$ to give an education?

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