Getting the vote out

Election day is tomorrow; Perkins Schools emergency operating levy is only item on August ballot in four-county area
Alissa Widman Neese
Aug 5, 2013
Tuesday’s special election will be a quick day at the polls for area voters.
 
A Perkins Schools tax levy, the district’s second attempt for new funds this year, is the only item on the August ballot in the four-county area. The 10-year, 6.73-mill levy would generate about $2.8 million annually for the district, which would stabilize its deficit budget and restore $2 million in costly cuts approved earlier this summer.
 
Many consider the contentious levy debate a divisive issue. 
 
But to Citizens for Perkins Schools, a recently organized levy committee consisting of hundreds of volunteers, it’s one of the largest unifying forces the district has seen in decades.  
Committee members have blanketed the area with reinvigorated Perkins Schools passion and reliable facts, they say.
 
They’ve hosted handfuls of informative events, including serious sit-down discussions, a weekend “Fun Fest” and a parade Saturday headed by an ice cream truck.
By getting involved in the community, the self-declared grassroots group hopes to gather its much-needed support.
 
“We all volunteered to come together because we believe in this district, these teachers and these kids,” said Jason Bennett, committee chair. “It’s brought the community together in a way we’ve never seen before, to support our kids, our future.”
 
The history
Citizens for Perkins Schools members didn’t get involved because they expected their job would be easy.
 
Although levy opposers don’t have a comparable organized effort, the group has consistently made its views known at the polls with overwhelming “no” votes. Most recently in May, voters rejected a 10-year, 4.98-mill proposal, with about 64 percent voting against it. Voters barely approved a five-year, 2-mill permanent improvement levy, a renewal, by a slim margin of 51 percent the same day.
 
Voters have not approved a new operating levy for the district since 2000. Before then, voters most recently approved a levy in 1991.
 
Several Perkins Township voters at the polls in May, some retired, said they're cutting back and can't afford an increase in monthly taxes.
 
New campaign strategies
This spring, about 12 people manned any efforts to promote Perkins Schools at the May polls.
 
This summer, the effort has swelled to at least 300 people, under the new, unified name Citizens for Perkins Schools. District parents Jason and Brandy Bennett lead the committee, with the help of individuals heading nine different sub-committees. Each leader, a community member, is paired with a school employee. Members include district parents, alumni and students.
 
The new group’s efforts include campaigning door-to-door, posting on social media and news websites, hosting community gatherings and question-and-answer sessions, making phone calls, distributing hundreds of yard signs and keeping voters updated on their website, perkinslevy.com. 
 
Their goals are simple: battle misinformation with the truth, keep voters informed and use multiple means to be accessible to a broad audience.
 
“What I said a month ago, I still mean it — I don’t care how they vote, as long as they vote informed,” said Jason Dulaney, a sub-committee chair. “As I talked to people door-to-door an overwhelming majority of the feedback was positive. It was a great experience to talk to them, answer questions and objectively listen.”
 
Citizens for Perkins Schools hopes its increased efforts will generate the district’s first “yes” vote in 13 years.
 
Its members also hope the new campaign strategies will increase voter turnout in August. They have helped several individuals register to vote since the past election. Less than 40 percent of Perkins Township’s 10,000 voters came to the polls in May.
 
What’s at stake if it fails
Without additional funds, Perkins Schools is projecting a $2.6 million deficit for the upcoming school year with a budget of about $23 million, according to its most recent five-year financial forecast. It is set to spend all its reserve cash in 2014.
 
Because a district can’t begin a school year projecting a significant deficit, board members approved a slew of district-wide cuts in June, putting this year’s total budget reductions at more than $12 million for the next five years, with more than 40 positions eliminated.
 
Most eliminated staff members taught special classes, including art, music, computer and physical education.
 
The hot-button issue: The June reductions also hiked pay-to-participate fees to $730 per sport per high school athlete, up from a $150 fee approved in April. Costs for dual enrollment classes, clubs and music activities also increased substantially for high school and middle school students.
 
If the levy isn’t approved, all the reductions will be permanent and more cuts are likely looming. Board members have already certified a similar emergency operating levy for the November ballot, which they are expected to approve Wednesday.
 
What happens if it passes
If approved, the August levy will generate about $2.8 million annually for Perkins Schools, stabilizing the district’s deficit budget. 
 
The new money will fund day-to-day operations for the district, including employee salaries and benefits. The additional funds will also reverse all the June reductions, about $2 million total, allowing board members to restore eliminated staff positions and return pay-to-participate fees to their normal rates.
 
The levy will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. Perkins Township residents currently pay $998 total in school taxes per year.
 
Last chance for lower tax rates
An additional, one-time factor in Tuesday’s election is a recently approved portion of the new state budget.
 
Citizens for Perkins Schools members are urging voters to approve the levy now, rather than later, because an identical Perkins Schools levy will cost taxpayers more starting in September, according to the budget.
 
Until this year, the state paid a portion of approved levies through two tax exemptions, one 10 percent and one 2.5 percent, Erie County auditor Rick Jeffrey said. Now, according to the new budget, taxpayers will pay the entirety of future levies.
 
Simply put: If approved in August, the levy will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. If the levy fails and is approved in November, it will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $236 per year, a 14.25 percent increase of $30.
 
Existing and renewal levies will not be affected by the tax exemption changes.
 
“It’s so important voters understand the urgency to pass this now, when it costs them less,” said John Schlessman, a sub-committee chair. “We’re doing everything we can these last few days to help educate and inform people so the can get out and vote based on the facts.”
 
 
Perkins Schools emergency operating levy proposal
MILLAGE: 6.73
LENGTH: 10 years
ANNUAL COST TO OWNER OF $100,000 HOME: $206
ANNUAL FUNDS GENERATED FOR DISTRICT: About $2.8 million
USE: Day-to-day operations, including employee salaries and benefits

Comments

themomx6

"NO"

fifteenthgreen

Here is a brief overview of how Perkins has scored on the ODE District Report cards from the previous ODE link.

Furry
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Meadowlawn
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent w/Distinction
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Briar
08-09 Excellent
09-10 Effective
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

HS
08-09 Excellent
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Excellent
11-12 Excellent

District Average (with additional years)
03-04 Effective
04-05 Effective
05-06 Continuous Improvement
06-07 Continuous Improvement
07-08 Effective
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective
Ohio gives public schools and districts one of six ratings. The state does not award schools letter grades, but the official ratings can be roughly translated as follows:
Excellent With Distinction = A+
Excellent = A
Effective = B
Continuous Improvement = C
Academic Watch = D
Academic Emergency = F
Those grades are based on:
The percentage of students passing state tests;
How well students score on state tests;
For elementary and middle schools, a calculation showing how much progress students made in a particular school year;
Attendance rates;
High school graduation rates; and
Whether or not the school or district meets federal standards. (Those federal standards are called Adequate Yearly Progress and include reading and math test passing rates and test participation, attendance and graduation rates.)

fifteenthgreen

http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/...

District OH Rank Rating 11-12 10-11 Per.Ind Value Low Income

Edison Local Erie 247 A A 100.8 Met 33%
Huron City Erie 124 A A 103.7 Met 30%
Margaretta Erie 412 B A 97.6 Met 37%
Perkins Local Erie 391 B B 98 Below 33%
Vermilion Local Erie 371 A B 98.4 Met 41%
Port Clinton Ottawa 430 B B 97.2 Met 47%
Put-In-Bay Ottawa 21 A A 108.7 Met n/a
Danbury Local Ottawa 241 A A 101 Met 45%
Oak Harbor Ottawa 240 A+ A 101 Above 34%
Norwalk City Huron 332 B A 99.3 Met 49%
Sandusky City Erie 585 C C 86.5 Met 78%

Good 2 B Me

They were giving FREE ice cream from the Ice Cream Truck using little kids to do so. Pathetic and underhanded as all get out. The little girls had to have beed only about 10 at the most. Making them hand our propaganda and such. Makes me sick to see the parents USE their kids like this.

arnmcrmn

How is it that kids doing something to support their schools attempt to pass a levy under handing and pathetic? You have your priorities all screwed up. School children do things all year long in every district to support their schools. Vote how you want but leave the kids and their attempts out of the discussion. Doing so is pathetic.

Good 2 B Me

Pretty sure that I don't really have to answer to you. I am showing how pathetic the Schools are being by making 8-10 year old kids beg for our votes. These kids have no understanding of the vote and what it means other than their parents telling them their opinion.

Bherrle

You made the comment Good 2. We are entitled to our opinion too.

You really aren't showing anything of the sort. The school forced nothing. It was a parents choice as to whether or not to involve their child, and that is a family decision, a personal choice for each family.

Good 2 B Me

Which I am suggesting is a pathetic thing to do to a little kid.

Bherrle

Thank you for your suggestion, but I'll raise my kids how I chose to raise my kids. But thanks for trying to tell me, and other supporters, how to do so.

Your comment also assumes that the child doesn't want to be there.

Good 2 B Me

It does suggest that. Usually kids in this situation are led into it by the parents. YOu cannot ell me that the kids researched this information and made a decision based on it.

Good 2 B Me

Which I am suggesting is a pathetic thing to do to a little kid.

Brick Hamland

Have you ever seen an election that doesn't play on people's sympathies? It is done at every level, from Obama and his free phones to local school levies. I voted for the levy twice this morning and feel good about it. I didn't get any ice cream, but would have been happy eat it with kids from the school that will directly benefit from more teachers being employed and more programs being offered.

StayInformed

No child is begging for votes! Children love to be a part of their school and help out. If you were 8 wouldn't you want to ride on an ice cream truck for your school?

Good 2 B Me

Apparently you were not begged by the kids. I WAS.

Strong Schools ...

It gives my family and I much joy to see such pride in our students, especially the high school students. It was great to see them stand up for themselves and stand up for their education. Thank you to the parents who got their children involved to show them that education is a priority. I will be supporting my children and yours!

Good 2 B Me

And My Vote will cancel out yours! TYVM!

Slats Grobnik

NO

Strong Schools ...

Vote yes and support our community!

fifteenthgreen

"Principles only mean anything when we stick by them when they’re inconvenient"

Vote No.....for now!

Strong Schools ...

Vote Yes now so it is cheaper for us in the future. We will have to pay more in taxes due to the 12.5% rollback by the state if this does NOT pass tomorrow. Think in the future and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

NO!

goodtime1212

One of our kids was told that instead of practice ( that was monitory ) they would go out and pass out fliers, we kept them home from practice that day. VOTEING NO.

beborcott

unbelievable....perkins is getting desperate.

Pirate Mom

If they have kids out showing how important this levy is, they're wrong. If it was just teachers, they'd be wrong. If it's just parents, they're wrong. These people can't win with you. You have your right to your opinion and your vote. I'm voting YES.

Good 2 B Me

NO!

Strong Schools ...

You seriously want to pay $730 a sport? I would rather pay $25 a month and support the entire student body. Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

See?? It keeps coming back to Sports! NOT THE EDUCATION! Sports don't get most children anywhere in the real world!

Bherrle

Perhaps we believe that sports is an important part of a child's education in today's world. You assume that we think of sports as "just sports." You assume that we think that our child is going to become some big sports star.

Sports teach life lessons, and in some cases, do provide an avenue to accessing a better education at the next level. In case you missed it, there is a large industry out there in the sports world that does not involve directly being an athlete.

Good 2 B Me

Sports teaches that if you have a 'Name' or 'money' you can go far in HS Sports. Talent does not always have anything to do with it.

I happened to notice the Sports world has a Large Industry, one that does not require you to be an athlete. "In case you missed it, there is a large industry out there in the sports world that does not involve directly being an athlete." So, you are telling me that I am right.

Bherrle

Directly being an athlete at the professional level Good 2.

Brick Hamland

bherrle- well said. Competing in high school athletics is not about training you to be a professional athlete. It teaches you life lessons to better prepare you for the future and a career. Teamwork, confidence, leadership, how to face adversity, discipline, maturity, etc. The list goes on. For parents with kids in the schools that participate in sports, do the math: $730 a sport is the same as paying $206 for a $350,000 house a year. Most kids that play sports play more than one and most people in Perkins don’t live in $350,000 homes (this does not take in consideration the current pay to play rate which I believe is $150 but I don’t know for sure so I can’t include it in my comment)

Bherrle

What is a "monitory" practice? What sport was this?

Brick Hamland

good time- your spelling suggests you might have benefited from more schooling. Don't deprive your kids by "voting" no, not to mention if you vote no that "mandatory" practice will cost you $730 in the future if this fails

Dont Worry Be Happy

An additional $206 a year for every $100,000!!!! I can't afford that. Vote NO!!!!

Strong Schools ...

We can't afford a lot either but education is priceless! Vote yes and support the students!

Good 2 B Me

NO!

beborcott

Vote NO!!

goodtime1212

That 206 is just the school, not the county, not the police any of the others that will come down the road in Nov.

Centauri

Perkins police replacement levy proposal
MILLAGE: 5.5
LENGTH: Five years through 2018.
WOULD GENERATE: $1.9 million a year, up from $1 million the department presently gets.
COST: Annual cost to owner of $100,000 home equals $168.44

Based on a $100,000 home:
Perkins Police $168
Perkins School $206
Perkins Township operating levy?
Perkins School again?
Erie County sales tax?
Erie County Health Department?

"WOULD GENERATE: $1.9 million a year, up from $1 million the department presently gets." That is about a 90% increase in funding for the Perkins Police.

Any other levies or taxes in the future?

Strong Schools ...

As a community, we should support fire, police, and schools. These pillars of our community make us strong and bring people to live in Perkins! We need to keep our community growing. Show your Perkins pride and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

As a Community we should also not have to have these things shoved down our throats constantly. Many people are making less than they were just 10 years ago. Look at the Erie County numbers if you doubt me. Making less = being able to afford less, not more.

beesknees

The BOE already presented its case for what it felt was the best option and the voters rejected it soundly this past May. This should be the end of story at least for a couple of years. This Perkins BOE is hell-bent on violating the wish of the majority. A BOE that uses our students and teachers as hostages need not be trusted by the taxpayers. I agree, Good 2 B Me, using little kids and ice cream to gain YES votes is a below-the-belt tactic. These parents should be ashamed!

It is upsetting to see “support our students” signs. I see the implication that a NO vote means I do not support the students which is simply not true. I will continue to pay adequate tax dollars to the school which will indeed support the students if we have a sound superintendent and BOE. It is disconcerting, to say the least, when Perkins teachers place the “support our students” signs in their yards and vehicles. Where was this theme when the Perkins teachers went on strike in 2006? It certainly appeared then that the teachers’ needs took priority over students’ needs.

goodtime1212

Amen to that Beesknees. what you said, sums up a lot

Strong Schools ...

If you vote no than you are NOT supporting the students. All of their specials will be cut, sports fees will be very expensive, further educational opportunities will be in jeopardy. I feel Gunner has done a good job keeping us off the ballot over the past five years. The state has cut funding from our district and there is nothing Gunner could have done. Sounds like the other superintendents did not have a lot of support either so we can't say its all Gunner. People just want to complain but what they should really do is get off the couch and run for the board if they don't like how things are going.

I did not live here in the community during the strike but it is not my place to judge the teachers. I am sure it was a very hard process for them and I am not going to tie that situation into this levy. I moved here because of the schools and I am proud of the education Perkins offers. Support the students and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

Sounds like someone works for the Schools! BTW, you just mentioned the Strike and the Levy in the same sentence.

Bherrle

Strong Schools mentioned something that is very important. Moved here because of the schools.

So did my family. The house we are in was on the market for over a year.

Folks, I've seen several folks say, let property values plummet, I don't care, that's less in taxes I'll pay. That's not true. Remember, Outside millage has to stay at or above the 20 mil floor. As property values decrease, and the 20 mil floor is breached, your tax level will be maintained, no matter how far your home drops in value. Your taxes will not drop that far below the level they are at right now.

Now - when the schools decline, and become less desirable, which in my opinion will happen if we vote down this levy, not only will your home values drop, but they will take longer and longer to sell. Because fewer people will want to move into the district.

I understand that $206 per year for a $100,000 home is not easy on the wallet, but when you decide your vote, make sure you consider all of the ramifications of your vote, pro or con.

I'll be Voting Yes for the Perkins School Levy, and I ask you to strongly consider doing the same, for our communities children's future, and for yours.

Good 2 B Me

SS also is spreading false statements and changing their story to fit their rebuttal.

God Of Thunder

" I feel Gunner has done a good job keeping us off the ballot over the past five years."

Apparently you haven't been here for the past 5 years. Wow, you ARE uniformed....or brainwashed..

VOTE NO!!!!!!

OH-IO

Vote YES like every serious suburban city. You talk the talk with your property but you can't afford your youth. Your full of fluff Perkins. Even Sandusky got it right.

Strong Schools ...

It takes a community to raise a child and it takes a community to educate a child. Vote yes and put others before yourself!

Good 2 B Me

Stop it! Your 'yes man' mentality is hilarious!

Good 2 B Me

My full of fluff? You're*

This is also a Township, not a Suburb or a City.

OH-IO

Your nothing without youth.

JPB

VOTE YES!!!

citizen

Alissa,

Did I miss it or did you just not report at all about Gunner's decision to place new buildings and facilities over the education of students, their educational and athletic programs and faculty positions?

This is an operations tax increase. Gunner states that he will have to "dismantle the district" and that Perkins will "lose its district" if this tax increase does not pass. However, Gunner moved millions of dollars away from operations to build his new buildings and facilities, and took out $3.5 million in loans to plan and design these new buildings. Of course, they need a new operations tax increase!

Remember when you go to the polls Gunner's divisive leadership, and obviously his abhorrent financial leadership:

Revenue has increased 13% in the last 5 years for Perkins Schools. Yet, Jim Gunner has led the district to a profit decline of 170% in the same time period. Revenues up 13%, yet net income goes from $1 million+ to a LOSS of $1 million+ per year.

Shockingly, Jim Gunner still has a job... and wants MORE of our tax money.

Those are the facts.

Wald

This is a total fluff piece, per the editor's orders, I'm sure.

Good 2 B Me

Absolutely! Since Gunner blamed the SandPaper for blowing it last time. Notice how little time has been spent by the SandPaper in talking about the Levy this time.

Strong Schools ...

Get over yourself, Citizen. You didn't mention anything about the state cutting over 2 million dollars from our district..which is out of Gunner's control. He has been dedicated to our district. Those are the facts! Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

So dedicated that he chose NOT TO LIVE HERE!

Bherrle

Citizen,

Newspapers are tasked with reporting facts, not political spin. If Dr Gunner and the BOE weren't trying to take care of the buildings, you'd be saying that they don't care about the students. Either way, they are wrong.

Those statements are being taken out of context, and you are twisting what they were meant to illustrate. The millage was moved to provide PI funds for whatever direction facilities take. See the BOE's Letter to the Editor. Nothing is decided, it is in writing, yet you continue to state otherwise. The $3.5 loan was to pay for architectural fees related to the stadium, and building planning, as well as further studies into renovation vs. building. No matter what is done, options need to be available to choose from.

Dr. Gunner's leadership is not divisive. No Super will ever have the entire community behind him. Some will always disagree. How they choose to disagree is what creates the divisiveness. Levy votes do not necessarily represent the majority of the community. The May 2013 operating levy produced just a 40% turnout.

Your numbers are flawed, I addressed this in another post.

Wald

Why so many involved with the levy now? Oh yeah...the pay to play threat. Nice to know where the priorities are in Perkins. There's no "pride" until sports are threatened. Please vote NO to this veiled building levy.

Strong Schools ...

This is not for buildings..It is for operations! If you are that unhappy, step away from your computer and run for the board. Don't take it out on the students. You are taking your frustrations out on the wrong people. Show your Perkins pride and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

NO!

Bherrle

Wald,

What really drove me to get involved was the fact that the Renewal Levy that was on the May 2013 ballot almost didn't pass!! I believe it passed 51%-49%. Our district almost didn't approve renewing existing tax rates! And only 40% of registered voters voted.

Good 2 B Me

40% is not uncommon.

tk

I doubt that the ice cream was really "free", so where did the money come from to pay for it?

Good 2 B Me

The handed it out for FREE. No matter who donated it, they were using Children for their dirty work. Sickening!

PT109

Allowing the children to support their school and activities is not "dirty" work anymore than it is to allow them to sell Girl Scout cookies or pass literature advertising their Sunday School program. Your opinion of society and your neighbors is warped. I think the youth of today should be encouraged to stand up for what they believe in. We did it when I was young and it is thinking like yours ("dirty" work) that has turned this country into a bunch of entitled whiners...but that's just my opinion.

Good 2 B Me

No, making kids come out and walk to deliver free ice cream and push for the levy, something that they have no concept of, is dirty. But that's just my opinion. I worked many years before you, I am sure of that. Don't preach to me about the kids being entitled. My kids all worked/work. My opinion is that it is low to make the kids do it. Trying to pull at the heart strings of the people. LOW LOW LOW!

Pirate Mom

The money was raised by these kids, parents, grandparents, teachers, and administrators by fundraising and donations. Thousands of dollars had to be raised to give "free" ice cream to citizens. People who care about supporting schools to keep our home values competitive.

citizen

Why not make donations to Perkins Schools instead of donating to a tax increase committee?

Maybe Perkins Schools out to hire a Development Director charged with raising private monies from individuals, foundations and corporations. Perkins Schools would be much better served having a Development Director on payroll than.... an incompetent, overpaid Communications Director.

PT109

To show the youth of today nothing good comes easy but with the "right" attitude and hard work, you can accomplish anything.

PyrkinsPyrate

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

goodtime1212

In a meeting previous to June 12 the treasurer was quoted as saying that athletics were not going to be touched because the program was such a small part of the overall budget. How is it then that at the June 12th meeting Athletic Director Mike Strohl's name was on the list of staff being cut in the reduction of work force, but in another attempt by Gunner to blackmail the parents, his salary is now being paid by the pay to participate fees (730.00 per sport) in the high school??

Good 2 B Me

This is one shady deal.

PT109

Why is it shady?

Good 2 B Me

The way that we were robbed of the $1.7M and now having it shoved down our throats that All Mighty Sports will be hurt if we don't. We need a BOE that is willing to remove the Loopholes that allowed this to happen in the first place.

Bherrle

The Board cannot change state law Good 2 B Me.

Good 2 B Me

Sure it can. It needs to work with the State and when they do, you might be surprized how much could get done.

beesknees

Welcome to Perkins Local Schools of smoke and mirrors!

PT109

And community members that like to throw out vague allegations with no supporting information on which anyone can investigate and determine they are baseless. I say make an allegation, bring proof.

fifteenthgreen

Bring proof? As to what? Flavors of free ice cream and girl scout cookie comments.

PT109

Try having a legitimate discussion. Not vague accusations. I'm not late until 7 pm tomorrow.

fifteenthgreen

This goes beyond tomorrow at 7PM...either way. Please remember that.

Fireside

How does this levy "support our kids" when it is to pay salaries for teachers and admin ?

PT109

Don't you need teachers to teach classes? It's been a while since I sat in a classroom, but I think the teacher is still an important part of the educational process.

Centauri

"The new group’s efforts include campaigning door-to-door"

Knock! Knock! Knock!

TRICK-or-treat!

Good 2 B Me

If the voters cannot see through this, it will be a sad day tomorrow. What a joke Perkins is becoming! Thank you Jim Gunner and the BOE.

PT109

Actually I appreciated the people doing more than sitting on their bottoms typing on a computer to tell me what they think is right for their kids and community. I've had a couple people come to my door that explained their reasoning respectfully and non-accusatory. You haven't done that yet.

Good 2 B Me

What is your name and address so perhaps we that conversation could take place?

Good 2 B Me

We need to run some qualified people for the BOE and replace the current one. Once done, then maybe we can get back on track as a high quality School District!

PT109

Then do that. Run for the board!! You have until Wednesday to register as a candidate!

Good 2 B Me

Thanks, but I cannot do that. I truly wish that I could! I KNOW that I could help shape the BOE into a better, stronger BOE and keep the Kids' Education first, before Sports! I truly wish that I could.

Good 2 B Me

However, I will be backing a new Candidate for the BOE. So, I will be doing my part.

queenjhb

don't increase our taxes, vote no, anyone that wishes to donate money to the school ,please by all means do. Some have more income, open your wallets , sponsor pay to play. Please stay out of my wallet.

Centauri

"However, Gunner moved millions of dollars away from operations to build his new buildings and facilities, and took out $3.5 million in loans to plan and design these new buildings."

Move money out of the operating fund and then beg for more.

How will that $3.5 million loan be paid off?

The cost in additional taxes for a $150,000 home is only $25.76 per month. That equates to $309.12 per year or $3091.20 for 10 years. That will not be enough. The trick-or-treaters will be back begging for more money.

The Perkins School District is becoming another Shaker Heights (OHIO) school district.

PT109

That's right! I mean they have already gotten 2 levies in the last 20 years! It's like they come "trick-or-treating" at least once every decade. Statistically your argument doesn't work.

Centauri

"Perkins School Taxpayers Pay The Lowest Taxes In Erie County"

Is this a true statement? Prove it with public records.

Anybody can answer.

PT109

Where did you see this? I've never heard that before. I did hear that Perkins schools had the lowest millage and from what I have seen that's true. So where did you see the item about the lowest taxes?

Centauri

It is printed on a card that was given to Perkins voters recently.

Also:
http://perkinslevy.com/
"Overall, the state average for a community is 35 mils taxation for their schools. Almost all Erie County Schools operate below that average tax rate with Perkins currently the lowest at 28.52 mils. With total property valuation of $433 million, Perkins does receive MORE revenue locally with a LOWER rate of taxation than other school districts.

Perkins Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...
Check the Class 1 and Class 2 millage
JVS millage is included.

Centauri

I mentioned Shaker Heights because it is the most expensive Ohio school district. A lot of rich people live there.
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

The Perkins School Levy committee claim that Perkins taxpayer "pay the lowest taxes in Erie County (3.5 mils lower then Huron; 3.5 mils lower than Sandusky)"

Tbere are other things to consider besides millage of a school district.
Shaker Heights has a high millage but lower ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUATION PER PUPIL at $156,226.41. The average income in Shaker Heights is $117,121.00 You also have CLASS 1 and CLASS 2 millage.

Check out Perkins Schools:
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Huron Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Sandusky Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Margaretta Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Vermilion Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Berlin-Milan Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Check any Ohio School district here:
http://webapp2.ode.state.oh.us/s...

Better make copies of all online Perkins School Levy information before they are taken down. Also keep those handouts and mailings. They might come in handy in the future. Sometimes the people will deny making such statements and claims. The proof will be what is posted online and what is in print.

RMyer

None of the school districts you list here are considered "similar" to Perkins by the state. Comparing Perkins to Shaker Heights or Huron or BerlinMilan is comparing apples to oranges. When comparing operations of school districts, one must look at similar districts due to demographics, student population counts and so forth. The only two districts near us that are considered similar are Port Clinton and Benton-Carroll-Salem. When Perkins operations such as tax load, expenditures per pupil and so on are compared to similar districts, our district is below the averages for similar districts (see middle column of report linked above for Perkins) due to proper fiscal management.

In my opinion, to compare to non-similar districts is not valid for all info.

Centauri

So why the cardboard handout given to Perkins voters comparing Perkins schools to Sandusky and Huron?

http://perkinslevy.com/
Question: Tax Rates
"Overall, the state average for a community is 35 mils taxation for their schools. Almost all Erie County Schools operate below that average tax rate with Perkins currently the lowest at 28.52 mils."

Here you are comparing Perkins Schools to other schools in Erie County, Ohio.

Port Clinton Schools
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Benton-Carroll-Salem
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

http://webapp2.ode.state.oh.us/s...

fifteenthgreen

Right, RMyer. They all scored above simply "effective" on the state's score sheet.

tk

Schools boards are largely made up of people who can afford the increase and they don't see that others can't afford it.

PT109

Then run for the board and bring that perspective.

Bherrle

That is a very general statement that is pure assumption. The school board members are elected by the public. If your statement is true, then it's our fault they are on the board.

queenjhb

@ pirate mom, they worked hard to give out ice cream? How about sponsoring and donating your money to Perkins Schools, Work harder and donate all your income for the cause. You can afford the tax increase, great, but, get your sticky ice cream fingers off of my hard earned money in my wallet. Ice cream - really! please vote no, I have no ice cream to give you, no magical goodie to make you do what she wants , just keeping some much needed cash . [ no, I'm not buying ice cream w/ it.

PT109

So, you never went to school. No teacher ever made you feel like you could be more than what you think you can. No coach ever instilled a sense of fair play and teamwork in you. No neighbor ever stepped in and helped you out ever. Pretty sad. I have always supported the schools even when I didn't support the board. You are turning your back on your children and your community. Do what you have to do...sad. VOTE YES.

Pirate Mom

@Queen: my hard earned money and how I spend my time are used for kids' futures and my family's home value, which is why I vote yes on Perkins schools levies and work hard for their passage every time the schools ask for my help. If you can't do that, I still do it and hope that your kids and home value benefit.

queenjhb

@perkins mom, ofcourse you do, you have extra income to throw at this , go ahead, be my guest, stay out of my pocket, fund raise some more ice cream, you need to feel like, wow, I'm really something, look at me , here take some ice cream ,now do what I want. I don't care how it effects you and your income, I want this no matter whom it hurts. This will hurt people on fixed incomes.

beesknees

I encourage people like citizen, Good 2 B Me, Centauri, and Donutshop to run for the BOE. Gunner and the current BOE must be run out!! First agenda, fire Gunner and move the millage back.

PT109

That would be November's election, not this one. I encourage everyone to VOTE YES for this levy and to run for the BOE. Without choices, we will always get what we have always got. Vote YES tomorrow. November, is another story...

donutshopguy

beesknees,

After the harassment my family received from employees of the Perkins School System after they found out my true identity there is no way I would waste my time.

Isn't it rather funny that the people we intrust to protect our children from harassment have no problem intimidating and harassing my family when it comes to achieving their needs.

Don't expect them to protect your children. It's more about protecting themselves.

Good 2 B Me

Exactly! I took quite a long harassing phone call from them arguing with me to change my vote. Never bothered to tell me who they were, but they called me so they know who I am. How does this do anything to protect family members that might share my last name in the School System?

Centauri

Welcome my fellow online political activist. You are much more valuable as an online political activist. If you ran for office, the dimwits would vote against you. Look what happened to the former Perkins Township Fiscal Officer Diane. The powers that be went after her and the Sandusky Register wrote some untruthful things about her.

You have gotten a taste of the powers that be and the powerful elite. They are very sneaky and will gang up on you. I know all about intimidation tactics because I have been a victim of them.

kal-el

Something about Karma, the Golden Rule, and "reaping what you sow" comes to mind while reading these last three comments...

Centauri

"Something about Karma, the Golden Rule, and "reaping what you sow"

Oh yes about Karma.

I will help Karma along to bring the entire truth into the light.

I will help to bring transparency for the taxpayers and citizens.

I will have to wait until the elections results are in.

Then I will go to work. Karma will come for many.

Good 2 B Me

I will stand by you Centauri! I believe in the Kids, but not the BOE and Gunner!

bao

what is the message to "our students"? If you dont get your way through normal means,throw ethics out the window,move the inside millage,hit the parents where it hurts most with pay to play, register as many non-tax paying voters(college kids and veterns home residents) and see if we cant get this school built. so proud of our boe and supt!

PT109

What was unethical about moving the inside millage? You elected a board to do what they felt was in the right interest of the school. They felt moving the mileage would be the correct move in the long run and it was within their ability to do so, so they did. What is unethical about that?

What is wrong with encouraging everyone allowed to vote to do so? Are you saying a veteran such as myself, who has bled for this country, shouldn't be allowed to vote because I live in a nursing home? You have a lot of nerve. How do you like voting? My family and friends have died to give you that right. Enjoy it and be proud that you spit in the face of all veterans with your comments. VOTE YES!

Wald

It was unethical because the public had just voted NO to a building levy, yet they took the money anyway, circumventing the voting process that you fought for. The democratic process was taken away. You can't have it both ways. Vote NO tomorrow to retain your voting rights!

Bherrle

Wald,

At the Federal level, do we get to vote on how our taxes are spent?

At the State level, do we get to vote on how our taxes are spent?

Those are both democratic processes, aren't they? Or did I miss something in Civics class?

Wald

Except we aren't talking about Federal and State levels. You're deflecting away from the facts. A building levy failed, so the BOE took the money anyway, circumventing the democratic process. If you can't understand that, then you did miss something in both Civics class and Reading Comprehension class.

PT109

I think you owe everyone (especially the vets) an apology.

fifteenthgreen

Take a deep breath, PT. It's been a long campaign.

PT109

Length of campaign has nothing to do with it. Are you a veteran? I can't see straight I'm so mad that someone, anyone would suggest that a Veteran shouldn't have their vote counted. To complain that they don't "pay taxes", so how dare they raise my taxes. To think of those who have paid a far stiffer price than BAO's $200 a year, wouldn't be counted. Yet BAO is certainly making his opinion known. No apology...how do you sleep at night.

fifteenthgreen

I understand and can tell you're steamin'. Some of these people have been going at it, sharing information, meeting, etc. for months. Either way, this community will figure it out together.

donutshopguy

PT109,

So do you have a problem with the school board taking away your rights to vote on school buildings ? That's what will happen with the move from outside to inside millage.

Well?

Bherrle

DSG,

The BOE is not taking away the public's right to vote on school buildings. The public has a right to vote on taxes at the school district level. They get to vote on funding.

Please show me where in ORC that it states that the public gets to vote on "school buildings"?

Add to this the fact that the BOE has put it writing that any facility decisions will be held until after the November election, and then that action on whatever direction is chosen won't occur until the definition of financial stability is met.

Good 2 B Me

If we vote on funding, then we are voting NO. Last time the funding was abused and now we are saying that until Gunner and the BOE get their S*it together, forget it! That $1.7M was NOT TO FUND A STADIUM!

Strong Schools ...

Why don't you post the rest of the story about the stadium! Vote yes and stop being small minded. Think about the future for our children and community!

Good 2 B Me

The rest of the story? That They went and had it condemned? Failed to maintain it at a much more minimal cost? Which story are you referring to? Please elaborate?

Strong Schools ...

I am disappointed in you, DSG! I though you truly understood that people should not take their frustrations out on the students but take it out on the board in November. You publicly stated that on one of your blogs and you were going to rally to get the board members out.

Good 2 B Me

You read blogs for content too? Honestly?

Good 2 B Me

Good times! I think the I will crack open a cold one and watch this storm brew!

Perkins2060

I'm a combat veteran. I have a CAR and three campaign medals among other awards. Big deal. Get over yourself PT109.

queenjhb

boo hoo, no one is berating veterans, you're probably a board member or maybe Gunner, the idea that elderly vets at the vet. home ,[ some w/ dementia] might be swayed in their vote by you is sickening.

Edwin Ison

Bherrle has a new screen name.

Wald

Yep! Bherrle=PT109

fifteenthgreen

haha!

Bherrle

No, Bherrle is still here folks. Bherrle didn't have the luxury of being able to be at his computer for most of the evening.

But I'd like to meet PT109. Smart person.

fifteenthgreen

:)

Good 2 B Me

LOL...how can that be proved?

Bherrle

That's up to you to prove. Accusers have to prove the accused guilty, not the other way around.

Aside from that, it is irrelevant. The facts are what matter.

Good 2 B Me

Funny that You have yet to provide any facts. Please feel free to enlighten the masses!

ohioredbabe

Please vote tomorrow. Do not vote on rumor.
Vote informed.

Good 2 B Me

That is the only answer. Vote your heart and mind. Not a bunch of propaganda made to look like we are somehow going to benefit by signing another blank check to Gunner and the BOE!

Bherrle

It is not a blank check. Levy's are for a specific amount of money. Get informed Good 2, and quit spreading false information.

Good 2 B Me

It is not a blank check. I am fully aware of that. I am saying that I do nota want to hand the money over to them when they have proven that they are not capable of making responsible decisions with the money. Thus, the term 'Blank Check.'

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