Getting the vote out

Election day is tomorrow; Perkins Schools emergency operating levy is only item on August ballot in four-county area
Alissa Widman Neese
Aug 5, 2013
Tuesday’s special election will be a quick day at the polls for area voters.
 
A Perkins Schools tax levy, the district’s second attempt for new funds this year, is the only item on the August ballot in the four-county area. The 10-year, 6.73-mill levy would generate about $2.8 million annually for the district, which would stabilize its deficit budget and restore $2 million in costly cuts approved earlier this summer.
 
Many consider the contentious levy debate a divisive issue. 
 
But to Citizens for Perkins Schools, a recently organized levy committee consisting of hundreds of volunteers, it’s one of the largest unifying forces the district has seen in decades.  
Committee members have blanketed the area with reinvigorated Perkins Schools passion and reliable facts, they say.
 
They’ve hosted handfuls of informative events, including serious sit-down discussions, a weekend “Fun Fest” and a parade Saturday headed by an ice cream truck.
By getting involved in the community, the self-declared grassroots group hopes to gather its much-needed support.
 
“We all volunteered to come together because we believe in this district, these teachers and these kids,” said Jason Bennett, committee chair. “It’s brought the community together in a way we’ve never seen before, to support our kids, our future.”
 
The history
Citizens for Perkins Schools members didn’t get involved because they expected their job would be easy.
 
Although levy opposers don’t have a comparable organized effort, the group has consistently made its views known at the polls with overwhelming “no” votes. Most recently in May, voters rejected a 10-year, 4.98-mill proposal, with about 64 percent voting against it. Voters barely approved a five-year, 2-mill permanent improvement levy, a renewal, by a slim margin of 51 percent the same day.
 
Voters have not approved a new operating levy for the district since 2000. Before then, voters most recently approved a levy in 1991.
 
Several Perkins Township voters at the polls in May, some retired, said they're cutting back and can't afford an increase in monthly taxes.
 
New campaign strategies
This spring, about 12 people manned any efforts to promote Perkins Schools at the May polls.
 
This summer, the effort has swelled to at least 300 people, under the new, unified name Citizens for Perkins Schools. District parents Jason and Brandy Bennett lead the committee, with the help of individuals heading nine different sub-committees. Each leader, a community member, is paired with a school employee. Members include district parents, alumni and students.
 
The new group’s efforts include campaigning door-to-door, posting on social media and news websites, hosting community gatherings and question-and-answer sessions, making phone calls, distributing hundreds of yard signs and keeping voters updated on their website, perkinslevy.com. 
 
Their goals are simple: battle misinformation with the truth, keep voters informed and use multiple means to be accessible to a broad audience.
 
“What I said a month ago, I still mean it — I don’t care how they vote, as long as they vote informed,” said Jason Dulaney, a sub-committee chair. “As I talked to people door-to-door an overwhelming majority of the feedback was positive. It was a great experience to talk to them, answer questions and objectively listen.”
 
Citizens for Perkins Schools hopes its increased efforts will generate the district’s first “yes” vote in 13 years.
 
Its members also hope the new campaign strategies will increase voter turnout in August. They have helped several individuals register to vote since the past election. Less than 40 percent of Perkins Township’s 10,000 voters came to the polls in May.
 
What’s at stake if it fails
Without additional funds, Perkins Schools is projecting a $2.6 million deficit for the upcoming school year with a budget of about $23 million, according to its most recent five-year financial forecast. It is set to spend all its reserve cash in 2014.
 
Because a district can’t begin a school year projecting a significant deficit, board members approved a slew of district-wide cuts in June, putting this year’s total budget reductions at more than $12 million for the next five years, with more than 40 positions eliminated.
 
Most eliminated staff members taught special classes, including art, music, computer and physical education.
 
The hot-button issue: The June reductions also hiked pay-to-participate fees to $730 per sport per high school athlete, up from a $150 fee approved in April. Costs for dual enrollment classes, clubs and music activities also increased substantially for high school and middle school students.
 
If the levy isn’t approved, all the reductions will be permanent and more cuts are likely looming. Board members have already certified a similar emergency operating levy for the November ballot, which they are expected to approve Wednesday.
 
What happens if it passes
If approved, the August levy will generate about $2.8 million annually for Perkins Schools, stabilizing the district’s deficit budget. 
 
The new money will fund day-to-day operations for the district, including employee salaries and benefits. The additional funds will also reverse all the June reductions, about $2 million total, allowing board members to restore eliminated staff positions and return pay-to-participate fees to their normal rates.
 
The levy will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. Perkins Township residents currently pay $998 total in school taxes per year.
 
Last chance for lower tax rates
An additional, one-time factor in Tuesday’s election is a recently approved portion of the new state budget.
 
Citizens for Perkins Schools members are urging voters to approve the levy now, rather than later, because an identical Perkins Schools levy will cost taxpayers more starting in September, according to the budget.
 
Until this year, the state paid a portion of approved levies through two tax exemptions, one 10 percent and one 2.5 percent, Erie County auditor Rick Jeffrey said. Now, according to the new budget, taxpayers will pay the entirety of future levies.
 
Simply put: If approved in August, the levy will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. If the levy fails and is approved in November, it will cost the owner of a $100,000 home an additional $236 per year, a 14.25 percent increase of $30.
 
Existing and renewal levies will not be affected by the tax exemption changes.
 
“It’s so important voters understand the urgency to pass this now, when it costs them less,” said John Schlessman, a sub-committee chair. “We’re doing everything we can these last few days to help educate and inform people so the can get out and vote based on the facts.”
 
 
Perkins Schools emergency operating levy proposal
MILLAGE: 6.73
LENGTH: 10 years
ANNUAL COST TO OWNER OF $100,000 HOME: $206
ANNUAL FUNDS GENERATED FOR DISTRICT: About $2.8 million
USE: Day-to-day operations, including employee salaries and benefits

Comments

Centauri

613 Ohio school districts.

http://cgp.hccanet.org/Lists/mai...

40 Ohio school districts shown as moving inside millage, all or part.

Perkins moved all 5.2 mils.

Perkins led the 40 schools with 5.2 mils.

40 schools out of 613 Ohio school districts moved the inside millage.

Would that make Perkins Schools number 1 out of 613 Ohio school districts?

lifetimeresident

@PT109
Dont get upset. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I do sort of agree if your voting for it you should be paying for it. I'm voting.

goodtime1212

I have read several people make statements about other city's, suburbs school districts. I for one don't give to craps about what others pay or don't pay, I grew up here, live here, work here, I have never been one to " keep up with the Jones' " I have said it before it is my job to take care of my family and raise my kids the best I can with the money my wife and I earn. If that means not giving money to a school system that seems to think they can bully parents into getting what they want, then so be it.

Bherrle

Goodtime,

It's not about keeping up with the Jones. It's about providing the children of the community educational opportunities that prepare them for the world. That educational platform has constantly evolved in this country. The world continues to change and evolve, at a much faster pace than it did even just 20 years ago when I was in school.

I agree with you that schools are not the be all - end all. But they are very important.

It is your right to feel bullied, but that is not the intent of anyone.

Centauri

"The world continues to change and evolve, at a much faster pace than it did even just 20 years ago when I was in school."

With the computer and internet age, brick and mortar schools are obsolete. I am all for virtual online schools and classrooms.

http://www.edbasic.com/?p=3372
"Brick and mortar schools are a thing of the past, already obsolete."

PT109

Folks, I've had enough of the bickering for one night... VOTE YES! God bless you all and I pray every vet votes tomorrow because they have EARNED it!
VOTE YES!

Perkins2060

Get over the vet stuff. There are a lot of vets here. I'm a combat infantry vet. Can you say the same? Probably not. It's "vets" like you that give us a bad name.

queenjhb

pt109 your a phony , sympathy anyone? now vote the way I want you to. Duh.We all see through you, vote NO.

observer

PT109.........I really don't like insinuating anyone is a liar, but I really don't believe your story about living in a nursing home. Sorry.

Good 2 B Me

Veteran + Nursing home = sympathy. Sad, but true.

Perkins2060

He's probably not even a vet. Just a big mouth.

EZOB

I guess by the calculations of levy supporters that my already paying over 1400 in taxes doesn't mean I support the students becuase I'm voting NO. They are getting over 70% of the tax dollars. 70% of 2000 is 1400. I think it's "Criminal" that the rest of the services only recieve 30% of our tax dollars. I want to support education not sports. You want a Ballerina? There's a dance studio on Columbus Ave. Band or music? try the Music shop by Peddler's Alley. Education is far more important than sports and I love sports.

Strong Schools ...

Academics is important but children need to be exposed to many opportunities. They all have different interests and they flourish in different areas. Our students receive scholarships in academics, arts, and athletics. Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

How many students have taken their Education onto bigger and better?

Now, how many Athletes have taken theirs onto bigger and better? The chances of making big money in the Sports world is much more minmal than making it in the Real World!

EZOB

PT 109,
If every Vet in Perkins votes, I'm quite sure the levy is doomed for failure. Your right, One reason for defendiong our country is that we all have a right to vote but when our NO" votes are not respected and we have to vote every three months, this is not a system I defend.

Good 2 B Me

Well Said!

Perkins2060

He's probably not even a vet.

swamprooster75

how much should we pay if the no voters think we pay too much? A millage amt would be OK.

swamprooster75

...I guess I'm just confused as to how Perkins can be so fiscally irresponsible when I've seen that they have had 1 "raise" in the last 18 years.

fifteenthgreen

huh?

Strong Schools ...

Our community does not pass levies for new money. Check your facts and vote yes! It is time to pass this levy!

Centauri

"Our community does not pass levies for new money."

What are levies passed for if not new money? Old money?

citizen

That is totally false.

What you just posted was an absolute lie.

Check Perkins Schools audited financial statements on the State of Ohio Auditor's website.

The oldest financial statements on the Auditor's website is 1999. That is 14 years. REVENUE HAS INCREASED 99.47% from $13.245 million in 1999 to $26.420 in 2012.

I'll say it again to hopefully end this LIE once and for all. Perkins Schools revenue has increased 99.47% in the past 14 years.

Please, please stop with the lies.

And StrongSchools, I have already went through one of your posts line by line and called out all the lies. Why are you still posting?

Good 2 B Me

SALUTE!

takeastand

I graduate from PHS and I feel that the buildings are just fine and they made their own mess here that they need to clean up without raising taxes! Seems to me that there is a lot of scare tactics going on to get the votes and according to these blogs the levy is going down!

Bherrle

According to the blogs the levy is going down? Why is it that you feel the buildings are fine? Have you fully reviewed all of the facility reports?

Whether it is building new or renovation, work needs done.

Good 2 B Me

You read blogs and believe what they say? That is just one person and their opinion.

Strong Schools ...

This levy is not about buildings...The money generated will be used for operations. But, now that you brought it up, the buildings are bad and shouldn't be ignored. The high school was 8 points away from getting the worst score possible on the evaluation. I mean, seriously, the bathrooms don't even work on the second floor! Vote Yes for this levy which will be used for operations.

Good 2 B Me

It is called Preventative Maintenance. They should have seen this coming instead of letting it go with the hopes of a $100M Campus to replace them.

Strong Schools ...

Gunner is the only supeintendent that has stood up and identified this problem. He could have ignored it but he didn't and he is invested in our student's safety.

Centauri

Computer age. Bricks and mortar schools are obsolete.

http://www.edbasic.com/?p=3372
"Brick and mortar schools are terribly expensive for taxpayers, and the quality of the academic product is at an all-time low. Yes, the stage is set. Liberal indoctrination is rampant in a school atmosphere that is hardly distinguishable from warehousing in community daycare centers. College the same. Brick and mortar schools are a thing of the past, already obsolete."

queenjhb

@ strong schools, stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

Gardenman

I saw quite a few of the volunteers and so many were parents and they had their kids with them wearing the various Perkins Pirates shirts for a particular sport. Looking at the figures of a $100,000 in value hoMe I see my taxes would raise $206 per year. I am sure those parents with just one child are paying that and more for their kid to play football etc.

As good friends of ours say vote for the levy and let the community share the cost of MY child playing sports. Saves me paying.

SO the retired couple next door living on Social Security pays for their kid to have fun playing football or the widow down the street on a limited income can pay for their kid to have FUN Friday night playing football.

I guess how the retired couple pays for the additional taxes or the widow down the street can pay the extra $$$ to Erie County Auditor is OH WELL BY MANY OF THE PARENTS....its HEY saves me paying for MY KID to have FUN playing football on Friday night.

Good 2 B Me

EXACTLY!! Why should they pay for it when you and I can!

Education is much more valuable than sports to a kids' future!

Strong Schools ...

We need to come together as a community and support the students, They need to see us stand up for them and show them that we believe in their education. Vote Yes and support your community!

Good 2 B Me

NO!!

Strong Schools ...

Yes!

Good 2 B Me

Afraid not! Too little too late AGAIN!

Gardenman

Strong Schools......all great words that spin well for kids and education etc BUT where the rubber meets the road is where it really is.

YOU want folks to vote for the levy for all good reason but YOU will be no where to be found when the tax bill comes due for so the many who can not afford this. Unless you tell me YOU are willing to help in your neighborhood pay the tax increase of those who can not afford it then your words have fallen on death ears.

queenjhb

@ strong schools, We are coming together to vote no , spend your money , not mine.

swamprooster75

15G How much school tax would you be willing to pay for Perkins education?

fifteenthgreen

They had a surplus and they spent it. Not sure why they would gift 1.7 million to the stadium knowing this crisis was inevitable. I'm confident the boosters could have raised the entire amount.

Bherrle

Why is it that you feel the boosters could have raised the entire amount?

Did continued state funding cuts, and decreasing property tax revenues, have anything to do with that surplus being depleted? How about the rising costs of consumables, such as fuel, energy, natural gas, etc.?

fifteenthgreen

Because they did a great job raising the first 1.7 million. They easily could have raised the additional funds necessary. They're that good!

Good 2 B Me

True 15!

Bherrle

15th,

In response to your post "Because they did a great job raising the first 1.7 million. They easily could have raised the additional funds necessary. They're that good!"

Really? So you think it was easy raising the first $1.7M? And you are assuming that those who privately donated would have done so if the school district wasn't putting up matching funds? And your assuming that they and even more businesses and citizens would have been willing to pay for the whole thing? That's a lot of assumptions. Do you have a fund raising plan to back that up?

Don't get me wrong, I think our Athletic Boosters are awesome in every way. They took what was going to be a $1.7M project, and doubled it's value.

Centauri

"They had a surplus and they spent it. Not sure why they would gift 1.7 million to the stadium knowing this crisis was inevitable."

Excellent comment!

How will that $3.5 million loan be repaid? Anybody care to answer?

beesknees

donutshopguy,
I am sorry that this has happened to you. You have a real heart. I totally respect you. I hope when others read this, they will see the real truth. vote NO!

Strong Schools ...

Vote Yes.

fifteenthgreen

What happened to DSG?

Centauri

He and he family faced some intimidation tactics from the pro-levy supporters. Bullies do that.

Truth or Fiction

86 comments within 12 hours of release. It was not the content as any article dealing with tomorrow's levy would have generated the same passion. The issue is not sports but education. The cost to educate one student pushes the $9-10k limit. Perkins has been fortunate by having a larger commercial component combined with a large residential population that has spread the wealth providing more money than other school districts for each millage passed. We have reaped the benefit of these demographics by not having a levy issue for over a decade.

Tomorrow's vote is important. Failure of this levy will affect everyone - property owners, businesses, and students. I hope the community understands the importance and votes Yes for the levy.

Good 2 B Me

Fiction!

Bherrle

Truth!

Strong Schools ...

Truth!

Centauri

So why did all of my questions go unanswered in the other story with over 700 comments? I see that the SR took it down. All of my links are listed there.

How will that $3.5 million loan be paid off?

How much revenue do sports bring to the schools?

Why did the school help fund the stadium with $1.7 million?

Only answers backed by public documents will be accepted. No tap dancing around the questions.

No opinions or BS. I want to see official public documentation.

Good 2 B Me

What you said Centauri!

Bherrle

Centauri,

Your position on this levy has already been stated. You are against it.

I have previously commended you on your tactics of diversion with questions and information. Keep em' busy chasing down answers to the same questions, and documents. The answers to your questions have already been provided, either here on the blogs, or on the levy site.

If you really wanted to help, you would provide information, and explain what it means.

Good 2 B Me

Bherrle,

Your position on this levy has already been stated. You are in favor of it.

We also have the right to see the facts. Insinuating that Centauri is distracting us 'No' voters and sending us on a wild goose chase is insulting. It nsults our intelligence. We are voting no based on the facts. Not, some blogs and made up numbers. Our numbers are accurate and consistant, unlike the numbers and statements of the levy committee!

swamprooster75

15G, The 1.7 million is what the BOE would have spent on the track just to get it up to specs. The boosters asked if they could combine it with there fundraising dollars an build a public facility we could all be proud of. I've taking my family there more than once and its wonderful.

Centauri

"The 1.7 million is what the BOE would have spent on the track just to get it up to specs"

Can you provide some public documentation to back up your comment for the Perkins voters?

Wald

This is more supporter misinformation. It has already been stated that it would have only cost $1.1 million to renovate the track and stadium both. Yet Gunner had to have a $3.4 million palace, which is actually more of an eyesore with all the ads. Yellow Pages Stadium is what I've heard it called.

swamprooster75

15G, How much millage is appropriate? ...the state says we (taxpayers) must provide a public education. How much should we pay and at what level of millage would you turn into a YES voter. Forget all the other chatter my personal views and your personal views. What is the millage number that would turn you into an excited YES voter?

Good 2 B Me

It might say that we need to provide an education, but where does it say that we need to provide Sports?

Strong Schools ...

I am a strong supporter of providing a well rounded education. That includes arts, athletics, and academics. All of these entities support the growth of our children and I want them to have as many opportunities as possible! Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

Athletics is not a part of Education. Just another 'Varsity Blues' type of mentality. Sports will not give the kids a better opportunity in the 21st Century. They need an actual Education. Really!

believeit

When colleges or employers look at a persons transcript/resume, it is well known that grades are only a portion of what they review and value. A student with a 4.0 and no extra-curriculars will never compete with a student that has shown they have the ability and desire to go beyond the classroom, whether it is band, drama, sports or other school activities. A quality classroom education and extra-curricular skills are not mutually exclusive. The most successful individuals do both.

Strong Schools ...

A lot of students get the opportunity to go to college and further their education due to their sports scholarships. Academics is very important and students excel in different areas.

Good 2 B Me

So, let them pay to play if that is how they want to get to college!

Centauri

Steubenville has a great sports program.
http://odevax.ode.state.oh.us/ht...

Good 2 B Me

WOW!! Nice one Centauri! High 5!

queenjhb

@ strong schools , Do you also want people to do without, such as heat, gas , and food to get what you want? You are full of [I want ] feel entitled dontcha.

Strong Schools ...

The levy committee has their own funds. Again I said the levy committee, not the school district!

Good 2 B Me

Why isn't the Levy Committee sending their money to help the Schools?

Strong Schools ...

We are trying to help the schools...What do you think this campaign is all about? Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

No thank you! I will put my faith in replacing the BOE. Gunner is going to Retire Next Year. We can replace him with a more qualified CITIZEN OF PERKINS!

Strong Schools ...

Then don't take it out on the students. They have done nothing to you and they need our support. It is shameful to know that people can't think beyond themselves to show a child that their education is a priority. The investment will be well worth it in the future. Take your frustrations out in November when the board is on the ballot. Not OUR children! Vote yes!

Centauri

"Then don't take it out on the students."

But the striking teachers did by not teaching.

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/glo...

http://www.zwire.com/site/171273...

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

Strong Schools ...

Are you going to be our next leader? Or are you just going to sit and complain and not try to help our community?

Good 2 B Me

How about you? Will you be applying to replace Jim Gunner next year? If not, stay out of my wallet! I AM trying to help OUR community.

queenjhb

@ strong schools, its about you . vote no.

Pirate Mom

We were educated by taxes funded from our parents, grandparents, and neighbors. They performed their civic duty, whether their kids were still in school or were grown and on their own. Back then, they were proud to think of the greater good, not selfishly wondering "how much can I get" or "you owe me" because we were the future. Now that we're here, what message are we sending? Please vote yes tomorrow. Pirate Pride!

Strong Schools ...

Agree! Show your Pirate Pride and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

NO!

Wald

There is no pride, only fear of the pay to play fee.

queenjhb

@ pirate mom, If my parents & grandparents had to suffer doing without ,heat, gas ,food or medicine, to pass this levy ,it is not for the greater good. You're selfish, look around.

citizen

If I hear the LIE one more time that Perkins Schools hasn't received new revenue, new taxes etc etc in 18 years or whatever the lie talking point is....

This is the fact (and something you will not read from any Register reporting).

The State of Ohio Auditor's website has audited financial statements back to 1999 of Perkins School District. That is 14 years of audited financial statements.

REVENUE TO PERKINS SCHOOLS HAS INCREASED 99.47% IN THE PAST 14 YEARS. Their revenue has doubled! Stop with the lie they haven't received any new funding. It's DOUBLED since 1999.

And, by the way, doubling their revenue worked just fine. Perkins Schools was operating with $1 million+ annual profit every year for almost the past decade. That is, of course, until Gunner's leadership took effect. Gunner led OUR school district to a 170% net income decrease, taking us from $1 million+ profit to $1 million+ loss.

Bherrle

Citizen,

The fact is that Perkins has not passed a levy for new operating or PI money in 13 years. I don't believe that anyone has said Perkins hasn't gotten new revenue.

Something is wrong with the way you are looking at the numbers. You say that "Perkins Schools was operating with $1 million+ annual profit every year for almost the past decade." So this means that Perkins would have generated a nearly $10M surplus in the past decade.

You have stated in other posts that Perkins has spent it's surplus in the past two years. So they deficit spent $10M in two years? I don't think so.

The fact is that the district was heading towards deficit spending before Dr. Gunner took over. In his first year, at his first board meeting, the board at that time wanted to put an operating levy on the ballot. He asked them to wait, to give him a year to make changes to how the district operated to save money.

Those changes resulted in the district not needing an operating levy in five years. Keep in mind that the economy tanked during his first two years. That's pretty good management if you ask me.

Strong Schools ...

The school district has brough in money due to open enrollment. Not because of our community. Look at out history. We don't do very well passing levies and supporting our students. Vote Yes!

Good 2 B Me

Why don't we do well at passing Levies? Have you put your finger on that yet?

Good 2 B Me

Question: If you were walking down the street and got robbed, then the next day were walking down the street again only to be held up by the same crook; would you volunteer your wallet to them or fight back?

Strong Schools ...

Well, nothing was "stolen" . The decisions were made at public board meetings. Were you there or are you just talking again? We voted the board into office to make these decisions and if you don't like it then vote them out and run for the board yourself. I do not volunteer my wallet to anyone! I will be voting yes because our district is financially responsible and they have no control over what the state does.

Good 2 B Me

Sorry, but statistics already posted show otherwise about the financial responsibility of the BOE and Jim Gunner.

As I mentioned before, I only wish that I was able to run for the BOE, my style would be noticed and changes would be pushed! I will be backing a candidate for the elections, don't you worry your pretty little head about that!

queenjhb

@ strong schools , don't volunteer my wallet either.

Strong Schools ...

The community has passed renewals, which is greatly appreciated. But we do not pass levies for new revenue. Support the students and vote yes!

Good 2 B Me

I thought that we are not passing this for New Money? You posted that earlier. Which is it?

Strong Schools ...

It's not for buildings! It is for operations which equals new money!

Good 2 B Me

NOT TRUE! Read your own Propaganda!

It states that the District will be fine once the Levy is passed. It also states that the BOE will not choose to build new buildings until they believe that the District will be ok without a new levy for 3 years. So, basically once you pass this levy, the BOE can say that we will be ok in 3 years and begin the process of building the new schools. Read your propaganda.

fifteenthgreen

This is not an indication of "Strong Schools". This trend needs to change!

Here is a brief overview of how Perkins has scored on the ODE District Report cards from the previous ODE link.

Furry
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Meadowlawn
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent w/Distinction
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Briar
08-09 Excellent
09-10 Effective
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

HS
08-09 Excellent
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Excellent
11-12 Excellent

District (with additional years)
03-04 Effective
04-05 Effective
05-06 Continuous Improvement
06-07 Continuous Improvement
07-08 Effective
08-09 Effective
09-10 Excellent
10-11 Effective
11-12 Effective

Ohio gives public schools and districts one of six ratings. The state does not award schools letter grades, but the official ratings can be roughly translated as follows:

Excellent With Distinction = A+
Excellent = A
Effective = B
Continuous Improvement = C
Academic Watch = D
Academic Emergency = F
Those grades are based on:
The percentage of students passing state tests;
How well students score on state tests;
For elementary and middle schools, a calculation showing how much progress students made in a particular school year;
Attendance rates;
High school graduation rates; and
Whether or not the school or district meets federal standards. (Those federal standards are called Adequate Yearly Progress and include reading and math test passing rates and test participation, attendance and graduation rates.)

Good 2 B Me

If my kids came home with 4 B's and an A I would be quite happy!

fifteenthgreen

Right, but at adjacent districts they could get all A's and A+'s. Would you keep forking money over to a restaurant, car dealership, hospital, etc. for "B" service? I'm just saying this needs to improve for a school of this caliber. Why is it trending lower?

Perkins seems to be excelling in the Athletics and Arts and neglecting the Academics.

Common Sense

Do you understand how the ratings are derived? Are we absolutely certain that all school districts are measured in the exact same manner? Have you ever gone to a BOE meeting to ask how or why the ratings are dropping? A little education on this matter would make your response a little easier for me to swallow.
My discontent is with the number of people who post only what they read and do not bother to look or ask beyond what they have read. By the way, my dear departed mother always told her children you can never believe all that you read or all that you hear. Seek the whole picture.

fifteenthgreen

http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/...

District OH Rank Rating 11-12 10-11 Per.Ind Value Low Income

Edison Local Erie 247 A A 100.8 Met 33%
Huron City Erie 124 A A 103.7 Met 30%
Margaretta Erie 412 B A 97.6 Met 37%
Perkins Local Erie 391 B B 98 Below 33%
Vermilion Local Erie 371 A B 98.4 Met 41%
Port Clinton Ottawa 430 B B 97.2 Met 47%
Put-In-Bay Ottawa 21 A A 108.7 Met n/a
Danbury Local Ottawa 241 A A 101 Met 45%
Oak Harbor Ottawa 240 A+ A 101 Above 34%
Norwalk City Huron 332 B A 99.3 Met 49%
Sandusky City Erie 585 C C 86.5 Met 78%

District: Perkins
Ohio Rank: 391
Rating 2010-2011: B
Rating: 2011-2012 B
Value: Below
Low Income: 33%

Centauri

"By the way, my dear departed mother always told her children you can never believe all that you read or all that you hear. Seek the whole picture."

Oh yes, seek out the entire truth.

Have you noticed that the pro-levy people evaded all of my questions?

What are they hiding?

I already know.

Bherrle

Centauri,

All of your questions were already answered. We are hiding nothing.

But please, go on, tell us, what do you think we are hiding. What do you wish to accuse of us now?

PTBarnumWouldBeProud

.....and AYP is the key. A school could hit 98.5% in a category in one year, and hit 98.4% the next year, and the district gets "gigged" by the state. Theoretically, you could hit 100% in every category, then 99.9% the next year, and the state would not be happy.

fifteenthgreen

So just Perkins is getting "gigged" by the state? It's a trend that should be unacceptable to everyone and needs immediate attention. We're not talking about one or two years.

Centauri

http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/3301-3...
3301-35-05 Faculty and staff focus.

http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/3301-35
Chapter 3301-35 Standards for Kindergarten through Twelfth Grade

http://education.ohio.gov/getatt...

Be Positive-Vote Yes

So proud of so many community members coming together and fighting for such an important issue! Our children deserve the best education and we all deserve a successful and continually growing community to live in. Vote YES! : )

swamprooster75

15 green, I Did not see the answer to my question. How much millage do you think is appropriate? How much millage would turn you into an excited yes would voter?

fifteenthgreen

None until they learn to spend appropriately what they are currently receiving.

Gardenman

I really doubt the sky will fall if the levy does not pass on Tuesday. I have not seen a school system close its door in years because a levy failed. The State of Ohio .....alas us our tax dollars pay enough for the school door to stay open and lights on and teachers in the classroom.

Now the difference may not be the extras.......more classes of this and less students in a class etc. Maybe sports reduced or even eliminiated. All can happen but school will still be open, lights on and learning taking place.

Gardenman

I really doubt the sky will fall if the levy does not pass on Tuesday. I have not seen a school system close its door in years because a levy failed. The State of Ohio .....alas us our tax dollars pay enough for the school door to stay open and lights on and teachers in the classroom.

Now the difference may not be the extras.......more classes of this and less students in a class etc. Maybe sports reduced or even eliminiated. All can happen but school will still be open, lights on and learning taking place.

Gardenman

I do notice the pro levy forces are much more aggressive this go around. To note that "Strong Schools' keeps countering every negative comment on the blog. My guess is one or group have been assigned the task of sitting at home and countering negative comments. Tehy came up to do that one as they sat around the levy planning table in the past few months.

Reality is Strong Schools I doubt is convincing anyone on this blog to vote for the levy and I doubt we are convincing Strong Schools to oppose the levy. Levy supporters might have been better to get hundreds of folks to be pro levy and make countless testimonies to the value of the levy vs assigning Strong Schools all the work of posting only. Sounds like the levy's PR folks are not thinking straight.

God Of Thunder

Wow... It amazes me how many brainwashed people are on here in support of the levy. Gunner has done nothing but divide this community, chose not to live here and pay his fair share of the taxes he wants raised, and drove the value of our schools down.

Until Gunner and the current BOE is gone, I will never voluntarily give up another penny to help them drive the schools further into the ground.

And until Jimmy Jones, AKA Gunner, is gone, I would not drink any more kool-aid and smack yourselves across the face to snap yourselves out of it...

VOTE NO!!!!!

Wald

I'm heading out to vote NO. I strongly encourage others to vote no to keep your democratic rights and prevent your hard-earned tax dollars from being mismanaged for a new building. Thank you.

swimfan

Bherrle, Can you explain to the readers the teacher's two part salary issue...the first being the step raise(although they say this is not a raise) and the second part the "real raise" they get each year...That is OK..I will. All teachers will get an automatic raise (which justifies why salaries were increased each year) with the step system. For example, if you have taught 5 years, you get X amount. If you taught 6 years, you will get more than you got at 5 years. This has "nothing to do with the raise" so when the teachers state that they are not getting a raise, they will still get the "step" raise but not the cost of living raise that gets negotiated in the union's contract. All teacher state that the "step" raise is not a raise BUT IT IS. The definition of a raise is getting more money. When teachers complain that they have not received a raise, then ask them if they got their step raise.
One other point...when our house values go down...who cares...the school has open enrollment so go ahead and have the tax payers pay more for the other children whose parents do not pay a cent to go to Perkins.

ISPSP

I'm going to assume that the Perkins teaching staff and BOE did not negotiate a pay freeze, just no yearly percentage pay raise. If a pay freeze was negotiated, I believe there isn't the step increase for every year of experience either......

Darkhorse

Here is the key word "operating levy" used to pay salaries and benefits of union teachers. $206 for a $100,000 home is crazy. How much more can you keep squeezing. People who vote for this levy are just plain crazy and deserve the hike in property taxes. The county needs to work harder at collecting the 10.7 million owed in delinquent property taxes to the schools. Perkins should not have opened the door to open enrollment. Now, they have to support all those kids that transferred over to their school.

EZOB

I see the vast majority of people using crtedit cards knowing they will have to pay later. I Voted No! Bill me more later and I'll put it off again. Why should I pay now for something I don't want and feel that isn't needed. Bill Me later is my new Slogan!

EZOB

I'm baby sitting for my son and daughter at 10:00. They are picking up My parents to go vote. Six more "NO" votes including spouses. Anyone need a ride after noon leave a blog with address, I'll give you a "FREE" ride.

Good 2 B Me

Thank you to the EZOB 6!

Cowboy

I just exercised my rights and voted to cancel BHERLLE's vote! By the way, don't drink the Kool-aid on the way in! JUST SAY NO TO KOOL-AID AND HIGHER TAXES!

Good 2 B Me

Thank you Cowboy!

Smoke

Maybe it's time to change Perkins into a Charter School System.

oldpirate

Cowboy I just cancelled yours! vote yes for a stronger community. More of WE and less ME !

Tool Box

WE just canceled your vote OLDBTPIRATE! My wife, daughter and myself all just voted NO! That puts us up by 2........

DLK

Interesting comment on the levy chair's Facebook page...wonder how many residents new about this arrangement: Why is Perkins school paying to rent the house on Pennsylvania ave? Maintenance and janitors cut grass and service house. The Chinese family lived there but was not asked to car for property. They also had a leased car through the district while they were here. Now they are gone, Perkins tax payers are still paying for house and yard work. I would also like 3 teachers back and PR administrator eliminated. I feel superintendent should do PR.

doppleganger

A gift of $1 million will support two academic programs for students in Sandusky City Schools.

The Randolph J. and Estelle M. Dorn Foundation has committed the money to support two “Next Level” initiatives that aim to transform Sandusky schools, the district announced on Monday.

Sandusky schools will use $500,000 for its new Regional Center for Advanced Academic Studies, an academy for advanced students in grades four to six that will open Aug. 26.

The remaining $500,000 will bolster the Preschool Initiative for restructuring early childhood education. The Dorn Foundation also has pledged $25,000 for communications about Sandusky schools’ recruitment and retention efforts.

StayInformed

Let's keep our schools strong! Even if you are only worried about your finances, a yes vote will save you money in the long run. Make the smart and educated choice and vote YES!

DLK

Please don't tell me you really believe that? It will be cheaper in the long run? Please. It will be cheaper initially since you are asking your neighbors to pay your child's sports fees. In the long run, this levy will never go away. After 10 years, they will ask for it to be renewed or replaced. You will be paying this increase FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

Thomas Paine

I hope that today each and every one of you posting on here has gone or will go to vote. For some reason I doubt that will happen. I hope your support or lack thereof isn't just digital noise. The debates are now over and we can actually go to the polls and voice our collective opinion. I also hope people can be adults about things (also doubt that will happen) when the final results are tallied. I have stayed away from commenting on the blogs so I could have some great discussions with my 9 year old who goes to Perkins. We have read the blogs about the schools together and discussed why 'adults' act the way they do. The whole debate has really created some good talking points about taxes, budgets, balancing our needs with community needs, and misinformation from both sides and not always believing what you hear or read. Its been fun to watch my 9 year old form opinions about the commenters. We also discussed what will happen if the levy passes and what will happen if it doesn't. I am hoping this whole process will show my son some civic responsibility, humility and most important to me the ability to have an open mind about everyone and everything around him while being able to respect their opinions even if they differ from his own.

ISPSP

@Thomas Paine.... I would like to thank you for using this situation in what appears to be an unbiased discussion with your son. All too often, when there is heated debate, a child will follow the parents' point of view however informed/ misinformed that opinion may be. Thank you again.

Thomas Paine

Hoping my kids will have the ability to make good decisions based on their own beliefs, abilities and preferences and balance those decisions with others beliefs, abilities and preferences and not just be lemmings and do things because that's they way they have always been done. I learned things from my 9 year old during this process just by listening to him figure out his own answers and ask his own questions. People seem to judge others too quickly and let their own opinion block actually listening to their point of view. Although some bloggers are just bat crazy, but even they have something to offer even if its just entertainment. :)

Equity

I called the Treasurer a while ago and asked the question. Perkins is not paying the rent for the house on Pennsylvania Avenue. Perkins deduct the rent from the Chinese paychecks. Perkins also deduct all the utilities from their paychecks. The house on Pennsylvania is being paid for by the Chinese. Is it written on a Perkins check, yes, but it is through payroll deduction. Ask for a public records request and Perkins can prove it.

DLK

But there's always some that you don't know or maybe you do and don't want to disclose. Who maintained the house? Perkins School. Who's responsible for the lease payments now that the Chinese teachers are gone? Perkins School. This came directly from your levy chair.

Equity

I hear Perkins being attacked all the time about transferring inside mills/operating money to permanent improvement. I recall voting for a levy for EHOVE for operating, and they are using that money to build buildings and renovate buildings. Why am I not hearing about this -- same thing to me?

Good 2 B Me

Building Buildings is one thing. Taking $1.7M to build a Football stadium is an entirely different subject!

donutshopguy

I voted.

Perkins2060

There is no doubt in my mind that this levy will pass. Gunner knew exactly which strings to pull and all of the puppets followed. Kudos to Gunner. You won this battle. It's a shame the parents bought his threats and are scared they would have to pay the pay to play fees. Like I said, Gunner knew how to get this through. I hope the new board members send him packing. I voted no, but I'm in the minority. Great job Gunner. I pray the new board gets rid of him ASAP.

Centauri

To the Perkins School voters, I have been asking questions here for the past few days. None of my questions were answered to my satisfaction. I admit that I do have the answers to some of my questions. I was asking questions on behalf of all the Perkins voters. What I was actually doing is testing the honesty of the levy promoters. My questions were evaded or tap danced around. You pro-levy people had your chance to provide answers to my questions and those of others who posted questions here. Complete honesty is how I judge political candidates. That also applies to issues such as a tax levy.

Here is what I think about the pro-levy people which number in the thousands and not one provided a decent answer to my questions and those of others.

http://prof77.files.wordpress.co...

That's it for today. I will return after the election which is today.

I advise a strong NO vote. Don't worry too much about another $30 a year. That is only $300 for 10 years. You are looking at over $3000 for 10 years. Let the pro-levy people provide some honest answers to questions. With the lap top program and computer age, the pro-levy committee could have had a live video session with a chat room so that thousands of people could have participated like the Sandusky Register did with the local political candidates.

Here is a list of my questions and the lack of answers provided. I did not included the questions of others.

Fri, 08/02/2013 - 8:33pm
"He works for another county's auditor and he said that land values on which homes have been built are influenced by the sale of empty lots of similar size, location, zoning, etc"
QUESTION: Which Ohio county auditor does your friend work for?
ANSWER: No answer from Oboe7

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 5:35pm
"Don't you remember the whole SB5 fiasco? Lots of teachers taking paid time to go to columbus and dress up in cheese head costumes, etc, because they might have to actually pay a portion toward their retirement and insurance?"
QUESTION: Will anybody dispute Suitcase Simpson's comment?
ANSWER: none

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 10:17am
It is illegal in Ohio to promote a school levy using taxpayer funds.
The Perkins School District puts out a news letter called "PerkinsPirate" to postal customers in the Perkins Local School District.
I have a copy of the August 2013 issue that has 4 pages. All 4 pages promote the school levy. I did not see a disclaimer that would show that taxpayer funds were not used.
QUESTION: Prove to me that the August 2013 issue is NOT promoting the school levy using taxpayer
ANSWER: "I'm looking at the same document that you are discussing, and based upon the information that I've been able to locate http://www.ohioschoolboards.org/... the school district isn't "promoting" the levy in the August school report." (PTBarnumWouldBeProud)

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 1:38pm
From the link that you posted:
"This language
allows boards to use public funds to
publish and distribute communications,
as long as the purpose behind the
communication is to provide information
about the school district and not to SWAY
the recipient of the communication."
REPLY "To paraphrase Bill Clinton, "it depends on what your definition of "sway" is. :) (PTBarnumWouldBeProud)

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 1:46pm
QUESTION to all:
Are there any pro school levy signs on school property?
ANSWER: No (Strong Schools ...)
ANSWER: There are no pro school levy signs on school property (Equity)
ANSWER: This is false Equity. Check the marquee in front of each school. Support our schools/students is considered pro levy. (DLK)

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 7:03pm
QUESTION: Did the pro school levy committee put up the letters or did a paid school employee put up the letters on the marquees?
ANSWER: none

Wed, 07/31/2013 - 5:56pm
QUESTION: How much money do the sports bring into the schools? An example would be tickets to see football and basketball games.
ANSWER: none

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 11:37am
QUESTION: How much money does the school district get from the sports program? That would include ticket sales, grants, sport boosters and so forth.
ANSWER: none

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 6:38pm
QUESTION: Those sports fees and extracurricular fees seem very high. How do participation fees compare to other schools in Ohio?
ANSWER: none

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 10:46am
ATTENTION Oboe7,
QUESTION: I asked you a question to name the Ohio county where your friend works.
Are you evading my question?
ANSWER: none

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 7:05pm
QUESTION: How much money do sporting events bring into the Perkins Schools? I have seen the costs but have not seen how much money the ticket sales bring in.Care to answer with online documents to back up your comments?

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 6:53pm
QUESTION: Would you trust anybody who avoids the questions?
ANSWER: none
REPLY: The ticket sales money amount is posted on the Perkins district website. Also, most questions posted on here can be answered by looking at the already mentioned website. Some commenters repost the same question over and over even though an answer may have already been given.
(RMyer)

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 7:51pm
QUESTION: Why not post a link for the Perkins School voters to see and make it easy for them?
ANSWER: I sort of suspect you are already aware of the link or where to find the info because you have posted numerous links to other websites in previous posts. (RMYER)
http://www.perkinsschools.org/Le...
ANSWER: I believe ticket sales were in the range of $125,000, but don't have time to research it right now. Feel free to look it up (bherrle)
My reply: Show me the public documents that show the revenue that the sports programs bring in. More evasive and tap dancing around questions.
ANSWER: On the County question, if it were me, I wouldn't answer that question. I wouldn't provide any more info about where a friend of mine worked to this forum. (bherrle)
Question that I posed to Oboe7 about which Ohio county auditor her friend work for. Obeo7 posted inaccurate information about how properties in Ohio are determined.

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 10:48pm
QUESTION: Which of my comments are not true, Bherrle? Point them out and I will correct them and apologize to the readers.
ANSWER: . I did not say your comments weren't true. However, a number of no voters are putting out false information, or spinning info in a negative light.
2. I know you didn't ask for the name of the friend. I stand behind my statement.
5. We aren't trying to hide anything! What is it that you think we are trying to hide?

Sat, 08/03/2013 - 11:06pm
QUESTION: Where did the athletic boosters get $1.7 million? Was it borrowed?
ANSWER: believe it was through donations, fund raisers, etc. Firelands Regional Medical Center paid a chunk to name the field after them. You can't walk two feet without running into a sponsor sign of some sort, the Kasper Press box and the band boosters threw in some bucks. The board agreed to match the contributions. Had they waited another year, the boosters easily could have raised the entire amount. (fifteenthgreen)

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 6:41pm
QUESTION: How will that $3.5 million loan be paid off?
ANSWER: none

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 7:58pm
QUESTION: "Perkins School Taxpayers Pay The Lowest Taxes In Erie County"
Is this a true statement? Prove it with public records.
ANSWER: none

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 11:28pm
QUESTION: How will that $3.5 million loan be repaid? Anybody care to answer?
ANSWER: none

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 11:36pm
QUESTION: How will that $3.5 million loan be paid off?
QUESTION: How much revenue do sports bring to the schools?
QUESTION: Why did the school help fund the stadium with $1.7 million?
ANSWER: The answers to your questions have already been provided, either here on the blogs, or on the levy site. (bherrle)

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 11:38pm
"The 1.7 million is what the BOE would have spent on the track just to get it up to specs"
QUESTION: Can you provide some public documentation to back up your comment for the Perkins voters?
ANSWER: none

Tue, 08/06/2013 - 1:18am
QUESTION: Have you noticed that the pro-levy people evaded all of my questions?
ANSWER: All of your questions were already answered. We are hiding nothing. (bherrle)

citizen

Bherrle

I don't have time right now but PLEASE go look at the audited financial statements of Perkins Schools over the last decade. It is on Ohio Auditors website.

The actual financial statements will refute every point you made.

Perkins schools were not headed towards deficits before Gunner. Perkins schools were making profits if $1 million plus every single year. The past 2 years of Gunners leadership, Perkins schools have lost $1 million plus.

Revenue has increased 13% in the last 5 years alone and has doubled since 1999.

Beherrle. I used to think you were pretty reasonable and level headed with this. But your response with no numbers and emphatically stating Gunner isnt a divisive leader has led me to question that.

Please, please go read the financial statements. I beg of you to see the doubling of revenue since 1999 and the absolute plummet of net income Gunner has led the District. 170% decrease from 2010-2012. It's stunning.

ohioredbabe

So how did Gunner become superintendant and when???

EZOB

Perkins 2060,
In a previous post you either accused me or PT 109 of not being a Veteran, I hope it was Pt 109 you were referring to. If not, I'll meet and bring along your DD-214.

Perkins2060

Like I said about PT109. Big deal. A lot of us on here are Veterans. I'm a combat Veteran. I have a CAR and three campaign medals among other personal awards. People that throw the "I'm a Veteran" out there all the time are ridiculous. It gets old and makes us look like whining babies.

EZOB

Being very good in sports in todays society is a way to recieve higher grades that less fortunate don't have the luxury. I'd bet 100% of the excellent athletes have been excused or got a higher grade than was deserved. This starts at the local levels and continues through college. Look at the top colleges in the nation right now that are on probation. A lot of the illegal practices start right on our own local level. More severe punishments are regularly given to students that aren't playing sports. Don't even accuse me of being wrong because this is one of the reasons females wanted the same opportunities enjoyed by males. They were being discriminated against because males were getting the scholarships. We know it exsists on a far greater level than administrators care to admit.

citizen

Bherrle- have you looked at their financial statements yet? Has the Register looked at their audited financial statements yet? Has anyone?

citizen

Oh boy... If this tax increase fails (which it won't due to Gunner's threats, scare tactics and arming supporters with flat-out lies regarding their revenue)... the Register is preparing to blame this on the poll workers turning away people who were wearing Perkins clothing.

Westerhold's "journalists" are already asking people to contact them regarding this for potential stories.

This will be fun.

PyrkinsPyrate

The "No" vote wins 56% to 44%

Yellow Snow

It's not too late, get your vote counted. Take a neighbor. Remember, the school is a lot more coordinating in getting those votes. They'll register anyone old enough to vote. They'll never pay a dime in local taxes when they go to college never to return.

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