Erie County GOP retains Olds as chairman

The Erie County Republican Party decided not to sweep out the young and bring in the old, after all. A party meeting last week pitted Matt Old, 24, the incumbent chairman seeking a second term, against a veteran challenger -- Milan Mayor Robert Bickley, 75, who served as the party's chairman from 1974 to 1976.
Sandusky Register Staff
Jun 14, 2010

 The Erie County Republican Party decided not to sweep out the young and bring in the old, after all.

 

A party meeting last week pitted Matt Old, 24, the incumbent chairman seeking a second term, against a veteran challenger -- Milan Mayor Robert Bickley, 75, who served as the party's chairman from 1974 to 1976.

Members of the party's central committee, meeting last week, elected to retain Old, giving him a new four-year term. Results of the vote weren't released, but Old said he was told he won by a substantial margin.

Other officers who were re-elected include vice chairman C.J. Kamm, secretary Pat Parsons and treasurer Lisa Crescimano. Old also named Nancy McKeen as the party'schairwoman.

Old and Bickley both count themselves as conservatives and Tea Party supporters, so the battle didn't come down to ideology.

Old, a Berlin Township trustee, who created a Facebook page for the county party, said Bickley believes the party has been too aggressive in embracing the Internet.

"He told me it's not all about e-mail, to which I agreed," Old said.

But Old said embracing new technology is critical to the party's health.

"When I took over as chairman, I was handed a box of papers and told, 'Here's the party's files'," Old said.

Bickley said the contest was more about the perception that Old and his friends are a clique.

"There was some concern about maturity," Bickley said.

 

Comments

Bailey

"There was some concern about maturity," Bickley said...... I agree, look at that hat!

Bluto

The problem with the GOP has been the perception that conservatives are unwilling to move out of a closed mind mentality and be more progressive in their thinking . This sickly old image they have conveyed to the general populace is what cost them the presidency and will continue to be their down fall unless they can bring in much needed life to their party . Right now they are only riding a wave of public frustration from a lack of right here right now results . We as Americans don't have patience when it comes to the economy and the backlash is what is driving the GOP's current surge in popularity .  Some conservatives might not believe it but they need the Hispanic votes , it needs the African American votes to survive if they plan on winning elections . There is narrow mindedness in any party but conservatives seem to attract those with backward thinking and that my friends LOSES elections . I believe most people would lean towards conservatism if there wasn't such a stigma of racism and such a lack of concern about things like the environment , and separation of church and state . Granted , liberalism can swing the other way to extreme and radical views but most people would be happy with a government somewhere in the middle . Like Goldilocks , not too hard , not too soft but just right . In the end it all boils down to a popularity contest anyway , that's 's just politics .

Bailey

Bluto, sadly you are misinformed as the Democrats planned for you to be, especially concerning the race issue. The other issues are just to easy to rebuke, so I will leave that for others.

It is true the Republicans are PERCIEVED to be racist but just the opposite is true. Look at facts before you post things. 

1. The KKK was FOUNDED BY SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS (Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest, General in the Confederacy)

2. Franklin Rosevelt refused to support laws that forbid lynchings

3. Marting Luther King WAS A REPUBLICAN and stated that he could NEVER vote for democrats for what they stand for and what they have done to enslave blacks. Lets see you argue with him!  He refused to join the Democratic Party, "the party of the Ku Klux Klan and segregation" 

4. The Republicans freed the slaves and even today many blacks celebrate

5. Democrats in New York engaged in "Four Days of Terror" against the city's black population from July 13th to 16th in 1863, and the anti-Civil War chant of the Democrats, as reported by one Pennsylvania newspaper, was: "Willing to fight for Uncle Sam, but not for Uncle Sambo"

6. Republicans passed the Thirteenth Amendment, which ended slavery.

7. Republicans passed the Fourteenth Amendment pushed by Republicans was ratified in 1868 that granted blacks citizenship.

8. Hayes-Tilden Compromise of 1877 was another attempt by Republicans to get the Democrats to stop the lynchings and respect the rights of blacks! Republican Hayes KEPT the troops in the south to enforce the rights of blacks!

9. Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws, and when the Democrats regained control of Congress in 1892, they passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans

10. Republicans started the NAACP on February 12, 1909, the 100th anniversary of the birth of Abraham Lincoln.

11. It was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

12. JFK voted AGAINST the 1957 Civil rights Act while he was a senator !  Dr. King criticized Kennedy for ignoring civil rights issues! 

13 CURRENT SENATOR Klansman Democrat Senator Robert Byrd called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited.

14. Republican President Ronald Reagan made Dr. King’s birthday a federal holiday

15 Enforcement of affirmative action began with Richard Nixon‘s 1969 Philadelphia Plan

I've got about 100 more for the Republicans and NONE--   ZERO for the Democrats, except of course those policies they made that causes the blacks and other minorities to become dependent upon the governement.

 

Bluto

Exactly my point . The Republicans somewhat tarnished image is a more recent phenomenon . I have voted both conservative and liberal over the years , I prefer to vote my conscience and not just accept what some political party tells me to think. I feel the basic idea of parties promotes a good check and balance and keeps government as honest as it can given that it is so easily corruptible just as any government can be . But it is the misconceptions and mudslinging and the infighting that weaken parties thus bringing them into an unfavorable light whether it is republican or democrat . Both parties have done good and bad things and to believe otherwise would be naive. I'm sure supporters from both camps can quote till they turn blue in the face but the peoples perception of the parties is what affects elections outcomes.

Pete

Bailey,

He is correct that a lot of people have that perception. Right or wrong, I hear it a lot from people. "The GOP is a bunch of old white people who care little about workers or people"

I am not endorsing that viewpoint. Just letting you know what I hear

 

Oh, see sig below for my perspective!

Bailey

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Salvatore

Standing ovation to Bailey to comments posted. THUMBS UP!

Pete

The problem with what the D's did is that money talked. I do NOT agree with it. But the choice was made to purchase the minority and lazy white people's votes with "free money". And money goes along way when people who could really care less about this country are standing in the voting booth.

The R's if they wish to succeed need to hire a better PR firm.

brutus smith

So bailey, sounds like you like and are very supportive of our 1st Black president, Barack Obama.

Sam

brutie, wrong once again.  Obama is a MULTI-RACIAL president, he is not black.. What you forgot that his mother is white, although he seem to hide that fact unless he can use it for his wacko agenda!

Bailey

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Pete

Ima wonder if Brutus would support Michael Steele for President?

brutus smith

pete, I'm not the one who brought up "how much Republicans did for blacks". All those past Conservative southern Democrats were either thrown out of the party or changed their views. Where did they go? Hmmmm, let me think, why of course they are now Conservative Republicans. One of your tea baby leaders, Rand Paul for one, thinks the civil rights act should be repealed. He believes private businesses should be allowed to discriminate.

brutus smith

bailey, in case nobody told you this is the 21st century, 2010, not the 19th or early 20th century.

Pete

But would you? Would you put aside your progressive views if Michael Steele was elected president and support him?

The GOP did the damage to themselves. Doesn't bother me. Tis their party

Oh, I am not a tea partier as much as you have tried to make me that way. Tain't gonna change it

Edit: Was Bailey's response Goderated? If so, why?

brutus smith

pete, if they didn't care about this country they would not be in the voting booth no matter what. What an arrogant and  condescending statement.

brutus smith

I didn't vote for President Obama because he was black, nor would I vote for Steele because he is black. And by the way, you are a "tea partier" so stop trying to run from it. Are you embarrassed by it"

Pete

You voted for him because........?

And no, I am not. Never been to a political rally in my life, R, D, or TP

brutus smith

Healthcare, alternative energy, supporting the middle class, stopping our empire building mentality, just to name a few things.

brutus smith

pete, it's not whether you attend a rally or not, your thinking is in line with the tea baby's. I've pointed out to you before about never, ever thinking a Progressive Democratic idea was good. Your critism  of Republicans only happens when you include Dems in the same sentence.

Pete

Well thanks for pointing that out. I should send them a check!

You are correct that Progressive Democrats I do not support. Their idea of progression is to tax that crap out of the remaining people and buisnesses who pay taxes so they can give it to the "less fortunate". And the person I cannot stand in politics at the moment is Comrade Pelosi.

Before her it was Bush BTW

And yes I did vote for McSame. But not for the reason you may think. I voted for him because I did not want a single cult controlling all three branches. When one party gets in power like they did for a few months, too much bad can happen. Would rather see it split and nothing get done.

 

My voting record for Pres:

Reagan Round 2 (too young for round 1)

Bush I

Clinton

Clinton

Bush II (wow can I smack myself for that!)

Neither. Couldn't pick between Bush and Kerry. Neither was a good choice so I voted for "none of the above"

Sam

Notice how they now call themselves progressive, must  be ashamed of the term LIBREALS.  What have they given us, 33% increase in the national debt in only 17 months, a big lie on health care that they now admit will cost more and cost jobs, increase in taxes for the middle class, embarrassment in their handling of the oil spill, November this year and 2012 cannot come soon enough to save our country from Comrade Obbie.

Bluto

I noticed a couple of Bailey's comments are no longer up . I read them when they were originally up and found nothing offensive . Wah hoppend !

Pete

I was wondering the same thing. Could be a bunch of Dem's goderating the forum yesterday!

Edit: Looks like self goderation to me. Could have edited it and left just the "period". Have seen people do that on forums before