Perkins Schools offers free pizza, levy discussion

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Alissa Widman
Jul 16, 2013

Citizens for Perkins Schools will host a question-and-answer session with Perkins Schools superintendent Jim Gunner at Chet and Matt's Pizza at 6 p.m. tonight.

Anyone can come and ask the group questions about the upcoming August levy vote or general questions about the district.

Chet and Matt's Pizza will provide free pizza and drinks.

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Comments

donutshopguy

MP,

Had my meetings with the superintendent prior to the board of education begging for ideas. He had no interest. Did you want me to confront him in a controlled environment, like a board, meeting to prove what point? The man was fixated with his dream academy.

To protect my family I will not run for the board. School personnel learned my true identity and harassed them at their work. Can you imagine what those school personnel would do to them if I was a school board member. Not going to happen.

"Voice your ideas in public" What do you think I'm doing on this blog ?

By the way, I'm not interested in your respect.

Centauri

Bherlle, I replied to your comment (Fri, 07/19/2013 - 8:51pm)

Can you post the time of the comment that I posted that you referred to? I want to make sure that my account wasn't hacked.

Bherrle

Sorry Centauri, I was responding to Edwin Ison, and got confused. I have changed it on the original post. My apologies.

Centauri

No problem, Bherrle. And keep your comments coming. I do like to see citizens being very active in their communities. We and others may or not agree but your voice is being heard. I admire your very civil comments. Good luck to you and your family. I hope that you find a decent and well paying job.

Bherrle

Thank you Centauri.

fifteenthgreen

If voters have no attachment to tearing down something that has so much meaning to so many generations, tear it down then. Many, like Gunner aren't from here. I get that. Why would you care? You didn't attend those games. Those plays. Those concerts. Those PTO fairs. Those dances. Those graduations. The first and last day of school. Those classes with generations of wonderful teachers and students that are no longer with us. That is my point all along. It's easy for some, including the Board members and Gunner to tear it down. It's personal to others. Very personal. We are all beating a dead horse on here. It comes down to a simple Yes or No. If the voters decide to tear it down...tear it down.

MP

I went to school there too. Played sports, took classes, was a class leader. Is there sentiment? Sure. But it's not a monument. It's the worst school in the state according OSFC. It makes no sense to remodel. If it were built better to begin with perhaps but there are too many band aids for too long.

fifteenthgreen

Do you really believe it's the worst school in the state? Come on!

believeit

This is a new one. Now the reason for voting down the levy is for sentimental reasons. First, this levy is for operating expenses, not new facilities. That will be decided after a new board will be elected later. Second, if you were so nostalgic and had so much pride in Perkins Schools that you feel about these things, why on earth are you happy to not only watch, but openly push, for a potential demise of the district. You have gone from not trusting the board and superintendent, to teachers make too much, to the stadium is too nice, to ... whatever.

fifteenthgreen

Kind of sounds like the Board and Superintendent, doesn't it, believeit??? Never know what to believe or what you'll hear next. "Demise" Puke! Keep drinking the kool-aid, believeit!

Centauri

"Perhaps if DSG had gone to those meetings instead of using this forum some real change could have been made."

I feel that posting comments on this news board will reach thousands of people instead of a few dozen in a room. Some people cannot go to public meetings because of a job, children or physical illness or impairment. By posting comments, thousands can read them and a few can comment. Some people are too bashful to speak up in a public meeting or too timid to post comments. For the timid ones, if I have their email address, I will post comments for them as long as the comments follow the posting guidelines.

Comments online can be very useful in addition to attending public meetings. Comments reach far more people at any time of day or night. The time of public meetings can be a factor of why more people didn't attend in addition to the other reasons that I mentioned.

MP

I'm not sure what the answer is but the amount if mis-information on these blogs prohibits the board or any public entity to recognize as plausible. The system is designed around public meetings. Perhaps that can be augmented with technology but this blogs anonminity reduces its credibility to zero.

fifteenthgreen

What's your name then, MP?

Centauri

I posted these links previously for the people to make a wise decision in voting. Does anybody have any additional links?

http://www.perkinslevy.com/
Perkins Local Schools Levy Website
Letter to Sandusky Register

http://www.perkins.k12.oh.us/pro...

http://www.perkinsschools.org/Do...
Levy Organizational Meeting Presentation
Attached is the Organizational Meeting Presentation.

EDIT Looks like maybe the school removed the last 2 links. I got the 404 error. If the school removed them, I wonder why?

donutshopguy

MP,

If this blogs credibility is zero why are you posting on it? If this blog is zero why do my children get harassed by school personnel for me posting on it? If the blogs creditability is zero why do people supporting the levy constantly post information and debate the merits with others?

MP

Why do I post? It's kinda like WWE- entertaining but not real. The real world has leaders who step forward and publicly debate not hide behind screen names. In the real world there maybe consequences for actions- like you say your family has experienced. Yet that is the system. Speak publically. Be heard. Express ideas. Debate. Elect new leaders if you choose. Your giving these blogs too much credibility.

Your idea is worthy I discussion but if this is your forum it will go no where.

Centauri

"If the blogs creditability is zero why do people supporting the levy constantly post information and debate the merits with others?"

Good comment.

To some people, only their opinions or votes matter. Some people cannot take opposing views. Often intimidation tactics are used. Vandalism and punishment are some ways the powers that be get vengeance. Those in government may make things very difficult for those who oppose. Getting a zoning or building permit, harassment from police, higher taxes and lack of service from public officials who are supposed to work for the public.

Somebody mentioned the word bully. There are many bullies who work in the public sector. They act like you should kiss their butt and make you jump through hoops, especially if you are a political activist or wrote letters to an area newspaper that opposed the views of others.

underthebridge

The school district through the BOE and the Superintendent have created an environment in which the only way to give your feedback is at the voting booth. Oh well. We'll see how that works out for them. When it doesn't, what will happen is that Gunner, the BOE, the rah-rah squad will continue to blame the community rather than examine the essential nature of their process.

Edwin Ison

Community meetings are just a way to force feed an already decided agenda.

A bully pulpit.

underthebridge

Bingo! They are not a reflection of transparency nor are they a measure of community participation in the decision.

Edwin Ison

Bherlle,

Make sure you know the scope of the word bully in my above post before you get your panties in a bunch.

Bully for you!

Bherrle

I don't wear panties Edwin.

Edwin Ison

Sure, it's a "figure of speech".

Soccer Mom seemed to bunch 'em up a bit.

Bherrle

I know, was just trying to add a little humor. I was going to say I don't wear underwear either, but that would not be true, and would have been TMI!

Edwin Ison

:)

samiam

Per believeit: "the cost of operating Perkins continues to increase and will not become less expensive over time. This is true for every district in Ohio as long as the funding formula remains the same." Then when are we going to do something about the people in Columbus who have done nothing to change the method of funding our schools??? It's been 15 years since the courts found it to be unconstitutional and yet it's the same old, same old. Until something changes we will continue to have these same conflicts/arguments/disagreements every time a levy is on the ballot. Perhaps it would be more equitable to have an income tax to support the schools? Then those that earn more can pay more. And renters who vote for levies would be directly impacted by them.

Centauri

"Perhaps it would be more equitable to have an income tax to support the schools?"

How would the income tax be figured? On the gross wages before any deductions or tax credits? After tax credits and deductions, some families that have many dependents have little or no taxes to pay.

I do believe that part of the problems are properties that were lowered well beyond their market value while some are over valued. In short, some property owners are not paying their fair share while others are paying too much. Perhaps each property within the school district should be looked at to make sure the true values of property are accurate.

believeit

All valid questions and points, but unfortunately does not fix the immediate need.

fifteenthgreen

Just what is the immediate need? The agenda changes daily.

samiam

Perhaps one reason they won't "make any decision re a new building until after the November election of school board members" is because IF the levy passes, they won't collect any of the money until at least February 2014, when the first tax bill will be due.

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