Perkins Schools offers free pizza, levy discussion

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Alissa Widman Neese
Jul 16, 2013

Citizens for Perkins Schools will host a question-and-answer session with Perkins Schools superintendent Jim Gunner at Chet and Matt's Pizza at 6 p.m. tonight.

Anyone can come and ask the group questions about the upcoming August levy vote or general questions about the district.

Chet and Matt's Pizza will provide free pizza and drinks.

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donutshopguy

Ohioredbabe,

So I'm hostile grumpy ? Interesting.

Ask RMyer and Bherrle if that derogatory term fits me.

I don't trust Mr. Gunner . I don't believe the present funding method of moving millage and eliminating public vote is the best long range solution to our building problems .

People don't agree with you so they are hostile? So should I conclude that pro levy supporters resort to name to promote their ideas ? Sure makes me wonder about the leaders of the movement.....the school board.

ohioredbabe

I said a lot. I did not say everyone. And I was not referring to you. I respect you and your opinion. I think we all need to keep in mind that tone and context can get lost in the keystrokes of a blog. I am glad you and Bherrle had a good talk yesterday. He enjoyed his time with you. Bherrle and I have been very close for 20 years now. Oh and I am not a leader. Just a highly concerned citizen neighbor and mother of two here in Perkins.

donutshopguy

Ohioredbabe,

With the basic information you just posted you must have lived in Pennsylvania a few years ago. Bherrle lived in PA up to a couple years ago.

There is difference between OH and PA with schools . In Ohio we have the right to vote on all school requests for money. The school board must put before the voters a levy to cover whatever cost they wish to spend. In PA they have given up that right to their elected officials.

With the present move of millage, after a building levy was soundly defeated , a large portion of the voting public believes this moved to be an end run around the existing voting process. Some of us don't approve of this tactic.

If you allow this process to transpire how can you prevent other infringements of your voting rights?

Maybe you don't care but I do for the sake other children and grandchildren.

ohioredbabe

I care very much. This whole situation is soooo stressful.

Bherrle

bnjjad,

Having moved here two years ago, I had no idea about the divisiveness and hostility that existed. It has shocked me and my wife. However, we are still glad we moved here.

There are many reasonable people in the district, who no matter their vote, yes or no, would not boycott a business for supporting the school district it does business in.

Strong Schools ...

bnjjad,

I moved my family to Perkins because of the schools. The negative bloggers have had these blogs all to themselves for a long time and the positive people are tired of the negativity and misinformation. We are standing up for our children and quite frankly our community. Our schools are the community and we need to make sure our students are supported. I am sorry to hear that you are putting your house on hold. There are a lot of people in our community with Perkins pride.

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GhostlyManor

We're supporting the levy. Although we may not agree with all the decisions made in the last few years our priority has always been our family. We have 2 children educated in the Perkins school system that have chosen to come back from college and raise their families here. We have 5 grandchildren and 1 more on the way that will be sure to benefit from that same system. Obviously our decision to support the levy is probably simpler than the rest of you for the 6 reasons above.

We all have a right to voice our concerns but it's disappointing to see some on these blogs feel so strongly about this levy that they choose not to support local businesses who support the levy. I guess they can add one more to their list.

bobshumway92

Added.

Bherrle

Kuddos to you Ghostly Manor, and thank you!

ohioredbabe

Thank you Ghostly Manor! Your commitment to your community and family is awesome! Your are greatly appreciated.

Strong Schools ...

Thank you Ghostly Manor for supporting the levy. Our family enjoys your establishment and will continue to do so. It is great that you have publicly supported our children!

RMyer

Ghostly Manor: Thank you for your comments. I applaud and appreciate your decision to make your stance known. A strong school system attracts people to the township. I am glad your children were able to return to raise their own kids here.

Also, thank you to other area businesses that support the school district.

Keep Focused

Thanks Chet & Matts. You guys are awesome!!!

Keep Focused

Ghostly Manor - you guys are awesome also!!!

True Blue

Charging students to play sports, having pizza parties, and having kids do a man's job. Perkins has kids going door to door for the levy. Why don't these parents that want all of us to pay for their kids to play sports go door to door. I'm tried of hearing how the value of houses will go up. Nobody will buy because our taxes will be to HIGH!! Of course, they don't you to think about that. Vote NO!!

Vote Informed

The tax increase would be to save the 14 jobs that are on the line and keep your house's value from going down. No parent wants to pay $730/sport for their children and many parents including myself have told my children that they will have to limit themselves on sports and extra curriculars. No child wants to pick and choose from a list of so many of their favorite activities. If home-buyers are so concerned about tax rates, then why do houses sell in Sandusky? Their taxes are twice as high as ours in Perkins Township. If your house is valued at $100,000 you would pay about $20 more a month. As of now, Perkins Township has the lowest taxes in all of Erie County, and they'll still be lower than a lot of school districts when this levy passes.

As for parents "not going door-to-door," you're wrong. I, along with many of my friends (also parents) went door-to-door in the pouring rain. That just shows how determined we are to get this levy passed. You are correct that students have been going door-to-door, because they are just as determined as we parents are. I'm happy to see the amount of students getting involved!! Vote YES!!

bobshumway92

Don't knock on my door.

Vote Informed

Since you wish not to be disturbed, here's the levy website that has the information on it that would be handed to you in your door. perkinslevy.com/

Strong Schools ...

The state average in Ohio is 35 mils
Perkins = 21.6 mils
14 mils less than the state average in Ohio. We are still lower than the state average and some of the schools in Erie County.
Vote yes and support the students and keep the value of your property.

RMyer

We are living in a township with one of the lowest school tax rates in the area if not the lowest. When this levy passes, we will still have one of the lowest tax rates. People will still want to move here. Ask a realtor about the relationship between school districts and demand for housing as people shop around for a place to build or buy.

From a masters research project in Georgia: Quality Schools Do Affect Property Values

In our research, we used the website SchoolDigger.com which uses a 5-star rating system based on a number of different factors including enrollment, student/teacher ratios and test scores. What we found was that properties near schools with a rating of 4 or 5 stars were almost completely insulated from declining values while those near schools with 1-3 stars experienced massive losses in value over that 3 year period.

From the Wall Street Journal: When Florida rolled out its statewide grading system in 1999, the real estate market took note. According to research by David Figlio, who is now a professor of education, social policy and economics at Northwestern University, an A-rated school in Gainesville added about $10,000 to the value of a home there versus a B school.

From the same article: Once a school is graded, the gap often grows. Strong ratings lead to better community support, which in turn leads to better schools. Today, the difference between an A school and B school might easily be $50,000 on a $300,000 house, he says.

That phenomenon isn't lost on residents of Bellevue, Wash., a Seattle suburb that is home to some of the best schools in the state. "I don't think there's ever been a school levy on the ballot here that's been turned down," says broker Michael Orbino. Even residents who don't have school-age children tend to stand behind the schools. It's not altruism; it's economics. All things being equal, homes in the Bellevue school district fetch as much as a 15% premium to those just outside of it, he says.

lifetimeresident

My only problem with the levy is, i've heard from quite a few reliable people that Mr. Gunner said he will build the new school with or without the support of the community. I think that is wrong. If we vote YES, will some of the money be used for a new school behind our backs?

Bherrle

lifetime,

I feel it best that Dr. Gunner or the board answer this question directly, and I have posted it on the Levy Q&A website at http://www.perkins.k12.oh.us/Lev...

lifetimeresident

Thank You. I keep trying to convince voters but its falling on deaf ears. Trust is a big issue. And most have lost it.

Bherrle

lifetime,

I received the below answer earlier today, sorry, I have been too busy till tonight to be on the blog. I believe something very similar to this is being offered to the Sandusky Register to print. I have spent time with Dr. Gunner and some of the board members during the past month. I find them to be very consistent in their message, and credible.

No. This levy is an operational levy to support the day-to-day operations of the school district. None of this money will be used for a new facility.

The Board of Education had previously set aside the “Inside Millage” for facility renovations and/or new construction. They have announced numerous times they will not move forward with a major construction project unless the following criteria is met:

1. They will wait until after the November election of new Board members. Dr. Printy and Mr. Chapman are running for reelection. Should the community feel strongly enough about reversing course on the facility issue, the Board election in November will give the community an opportunity to elect new board members who support this view.

2. The financial forecast must show that no new operating levies will be needed for the next three years.

3. The Board elected in November will reexamine the facility needs of the district and make a decision on how to move forward.

As far as any comments attributed to Mr. Gunner regarding the construction of a new facility, Mr. Gunner has stated the following repeatedly:

First, the Board makes the decision on whether to move forward with construction of new facilities, not Mr. Gunner. He can recommend, but does not have the authority to proceed without a formal Board resolution and public vote of the Board.

He has repeatedly made the comment that the facilities in Perkins need to be addressed soon; the structural integrity, safety and health issues inherent in especially the high school cannot be ignored.

He has never indicated he would build a facility with or without the support of the community. While he believes strongly in the need for new facilities, the final decision is not his. Again, he does not have the authority to build a new facility, only the Board of Education has this authority.

lifetimeresident

Thank You for getting back with me. This said, what happens if the November levy fails and he moves the inside millage money again? Can we keep him from doing this.

Bherrle

Lifetime,

There is no more millage to move. The only millage that the board had any flexibility with was the 5.2 mills they moved. This was the original millage given to Perkins Schools by the state way back when the public school funding system was created. There is no other millage they can move. It is illegal to move "voted" millage.

citizen

If you vote yes, the money will be used to replace operating funds that Gunner and Board removed from operations and to educate the district's children into a permanent improvement fund to build Gunner's new school.

Perkins taxpayers twice rejected raising taxes to build Gunner's new facilities and buildings, so Gunner and Board decided that these new buildings were more important than the 14 teachers being laid off and other massive cuts... and moved operating funds even though taxpayers twice rejected this.

lifetimeresident

I dont like anyone loosing a job. What do these teachers think of the board and super. Not just the ones that lost their job.

ohioredbabe

Lifetimeresident I know several teachers. I will ask them your question and get back to you with their exact answers tomorrow evening.

ohioredbabe

Lifetimeresident I know several teachers. I will ask them your question and get back to you with their exact answers later this evening.

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