Prosecutors attack Zimmerman story

Events after shooting called into question
Associated Press
Jul 2, 2013

A judge tossed out a detective's statement that he found George Zimmerman credible in his description of fighting with Trayvon Martin, a decision that benefits prosecutors who are trying to discredit the defendant's self-defense claims.

Other efforts by prosecutors to attack Zimmerman's story on Tuesday included the cross examination of a friend he called after shooting Martin and the testimony of a doctor who found the defendant's injuries to be insignificant. They also sought to introduce school records that indicate Zimmerman had studied the state's self-defense law, in another swipe at his truthfulness.

Prosecutors took the unusual step of trying to pick apart the statements of an investigator they'd called as a prosecution witness because some of what he said appeared to help the defense. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda asked the judge to strike Detective Chris Serino's statement that he thought Zimmerman was credible when he described how he got into a fight with Martin. Serino was the lead investigator on the case for the Sanford Police Department.

De la Rionda argued the statement was improper because one witness isn't allowed to evaluate another witness's credibility. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argued that it's Serino's job to decide whether Zimmerman was telling the truth.

Judge Debra Nelson told jurors to disregard the statement.

"This is an improper comment," the judge said.

Zimmerman has said he fatally shot the unarmed black 17-year-old in self-defense in February of 2012 because Martin was banging his head into a concrete sidewalk. Zimmerman, 29, could get life in prison if convicted of second-degree murder. He has pleaded not guilty.

To earn a conviction on the charge, prosecutors must prove there was ill will, spite or a depraved mind by the defendant.

The prosecutor also questioned Serino about his opinion that Zimmerman didn't display those negative emotions toward Martin.

De la Rionda played back Zimmerman's call to police to report the teen wailing through his gated community. Zimmerman uses an expletive, refers to "punks" and then says, "These a-------. They always get away."

The detective conceded that Zimmerman's choice of words could be interpreted as being spiteful.

The state has argued that Zimmerman profiled Martin from his truck and called a police dispatch number before he and the teenager got into a fight. Zimmerman has denied the confrontation had anything to do with race, as Martin's family and their supporters have claimed. Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

Several moves by prosecutors Tuesday were aimed at showing inconsistencies in Zimmerman's statements.

Prosecutors asked the judge to allow them to introduce school records showing Zimmerman took a class that addressed Florida's self-defense law. They say it will show he had knowledge of the law, even though he claimed he didn't in an interview with talk show host Sean Hannity. The interview was played for jurors.

O'Mara objected, saying the records were irrelevant. He referred to the prosecution's efforts to introduce them as "a witch hunt."

The judge said she would rule later in the week.

Late in the morning the prosecution questioned Mark Osterman, a friend who spoke with Zimmerman after the shooting.

Under questioning by de la Rionda, Osterman said that Zimmerman told him Martin had grabbed his gun during their struggle, but that Zimmerman was able to pull it away.

That account is different from what Zimmerman told investigators in multiple interviews. In those interviews, he only said it appeared Martin was reaching for his gun prior to the shooting. He never told police the teen grabbed it.

"I thought he had said he grabbed the gun," Osterman said. "I believe he said he grabbed the gun."

A Sanford Police Department fingerprint examiner testified that none of Martin's prints were found on the gun.

Prosecutors also called a medical examiner who had reviewed evidence for them to the witness stand. Dr. Valerie Rao testified that Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant, bolstering the prosecution's claims that Zimmerman's life wasn't in jeopardy during his fight with Martin. Rao was not the medical examiner who autopsied Martin.

"They were so minor that the individual who treated and examined Mr. Zimmerman decided stitches weren't required," Rao said.


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That's not the case in trials pooh. You need facts and evidence. Your name calling is really juvenile. Father time is undefeated. If you are old, you are old. That's my perception of you. Reality or not?


The prosecution has not and I believe will not be able to prove anything here. Heck the best witnesses in this case for the defense have been the witnesses the prosecution has brought forward so far. All this will be when he is found not guilty is a vehicle by which those who want to riot and loot to do so with "a legitimate" excuse.


You don't think the lack of any major injuries prove his head was not pounded into the concrete? You don't think the fact that there were no bushes "from which" (for you pooh) to jump out from is not proof he may be a little dishonest? You don't think that the fact that he said he stretched Trayvon's arm out after the shooting but were found to be under his body is proof of something? There's lots of proof, you just have to pay attention.

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She's a bubble-headed bleach blond.


JMHO...Any verdict in this case won't set well. There is no ending that can happen for appeasement.


Another valid reason to vote. You could serve on a jury. Your decision could make the difference...unless you have a closed mind.


The media loves you brain-dead Zimmerman trial junkies.

"In One Chart, Here's Why The Media Is Spending So Much Time Covering The Zimmerman Trial":

"The public is much more interested in the play-by-play of a domestic trial that has attracted enormous media interest because of its implications for the debate on race in America."

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Yea, keep lying to yourself that it AIN'T about race. :)

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The media, the media, the media. Don't you get tired of playing that broken record?


Oh Winnie the pooh! Who knew you were such a grumpy pooh bear?


When the news first broke, many believed, including Jackson and Sharpton, that Zimmerman was a white guy. Then it was learned Zimmerman was Latino and most Americans paid no more attention to the story. The only ones that want to see Zimmerman hang are the ones always pulling the race card, including deerwacker.

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Who's the "judge" now?


Race came into this case in the beginning. Not unlike the Lambarios (sp?) case, no investigation or autopsy was done. The parents wanted to know how their son could leave home to buy some snacks and never return. They wanted Justice. I think I remember that they couldn't get any answers about where their son was for three days. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


You are absolutely correct. A parent has a right to know and LE owed these people answers. This whole case is about justice. It is also sad the way LE investigated the death of a 17 y.o. kid.

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Yes. This was handled wrong right from the beginning.