I want your info

“Whether we admit it to ourselves or not, and whether we like it or not, we’re being tracked all the time."
Tom Jackson
Jun 1, 2013

 

"Google tracks us, both on its pages and on other pages it has access to. Facebook does the same; it even tracks non-Facebook users. Apple tracks us on our iPhones and iPads. One reporter used a tool called Collusion to track who was tracking him; 105 companies tracked his Internet use during one 36-hour period,” wrote ​Bruce Schneier,  a cryptographer, computer security specialist and author of several books on general security topics, computer security and cryptography.

And there's little the average person can do about it, Schneier said.

“There are simply too many ways to be tracked. The Internet, e-mail, cell phones, web browsers, social networking sites, search engines: these have become necessities, and it’s fanciful to expect people to simply refuse to use them just because they don’t like the spying, especially since the full extent of such spying is deliberately hidden from us and there are few alternatives being marketed by companies that don’t spy.”

Read more in "Surveillance State" in today's Register. Click here for the ePaper, for home delivery or buy the Register daily at a newsstand near you. 

Comments

Eph 2 8-10

Let's not forget those courtesy discount cards from Krogers, and others, including your credit and debit cards. George Orwell was about 30 years off.

Oh, I forgot our cable TV and internet providers...

Contango

IMO, the future looks more like the dystopia of "Brave New World" as opposed to Oceania in "Nineteen Eighty-Four."

Our society will AMUSE and ENTERTAIN ourselves into totalitarianism and statism.

Factitious

"We collect the domain name and e-mail address (where possible) of visitors to our Web page; the e-mail addresses of those who post messages to our bulletin board, the e-mail addresses of those who communicate with us via e-mail and the e-mail addresses of those who make postings to our chat areas; aggregate information on what pages consumers access or visit; user-specific information on what pages consumers access or visit; and information volunteered by the consumer, such as survey information and/or site registrations."

and

"From time to time, we may use customer information for new, unanticipated uses not previously disclosed in our privacy notice. ..."

- Sandusky Register Privacy Policy

http://www.tandemnetwork.com/pri...

Doug7880

Keep in mind. You get nothing for free. You don't get discounts for nothing. Follow me if like. My boring life will will put you to sleep. Good night. Oh by the way they have been tracking you long before Google or Apple ever came along.

deertracker

Exactly! Nothing new here!

2cents's picture
2cents

Nothing is sacred, the fed sent me a economic census for my business to fill out, 18 pages of BS. He-- they want to even know how many KW of electricity we used in one year, I figure they can go ask the IRS now since they track everything anyway and after the IRS scandal I just threw it in the trash!

Contango

FYI:

I recently read about a govt. website that tracks local fed spending.

http://usaspending.gov/

I'm still messing with it.

Article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB...

2cents's picture
2cents

"Track Government Spending With Your Phone"

Gotta love them, I am sure this is a way into ones phone to see what you are doing, it probably data logs every single text, conversation, email and frigging ring tone!

Unassumer

Everyone is tracking everyone else and no one really knows anyone at all.

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The Hero Zone

To be fair this comes in handy sometimes and it is an argument of the potential good outweighing the bad. For instance last week I had an issue with PayPal where my account was frozen because they detected a money transfer from my account from an IP that I hadn't used before. So for my safety against my known history, that occurred and a phone call was able to unlock it (credit cards do this, too).

There have been many instances where missing persons or criminals were tracked down through triangulation of their signal (or straight-up GPS location) or info in the .exif and GPS Tags put on digital pictures.

There's a quote about safety and freedom which is worth consideration, as are statements like this (even if taken with a grain of salt):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don...

SamAdams

I disagree. It is NEVER a matter of the good outweighing the bad. After all, the lesser evil is still evil, is it not?

Your issue with PayPal? Not really the point. You've given them permission to transfer money on your behalf and, when they notice something out of the ordinary, they contact you. That's fine. But are they collecting data on your shopping habits/preferences? Are they SHARING that data? That's NOT so fine.

Criminals (or victims) who are tracked via various electronic means involve requests (from victims) or warrants (for criminals). Again, not an issue. It's the ubiquitous tracking of EVERYbody that's the problem!

Here's the quote you're looking for: "He who would trade liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security." Benjamin Franklin

Franklin, as usual, was right. I'd frankly rather risk the dangers of freedom and personal responsibility than bask in the safety and security of slavery! Wouldn't you?

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The Hero Zone

At least regarding the private aspect of information collection, unless someone develops a fully-private option, we all consent to the declared use of our info in the EULA (end-user license agreement) or privacy policy which usually gets glazed over, checked off, or otherwise submitted to by us. If a company acts outside of this then the field is ripe for a privacy policy violation lawsuit and what lawyer, judge, or jury wouldn't love to spank a megacorp with punitive damages for that?

Now, for public snooping...that is a lot more contentious especially because it can't be fought as easily. To a point there are legitimate safety concerns regarding reactive monitoring. If you are sending a lot of emails that continually referring to bombs and certain governmental residences then that would most likely trigger an automatic signal calling a human over to check into things.

In that case Batman isn't so much looking for you as he is responding to the Bat-Signal that was turned on. It's level of legality or morality I will leave to you to contest.

I, for one, welcome my new Google overlords. But I say that knowing that if they drop the ball I will be first in line in a class-action lawsuit to hold them as responsible as they claim to be. Just as I hope you would with me if I slipped razor blades into apples.

Well, something like that already happened...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/...

donutshopguy

Sam,

Spot on with your analysis.

luvblues2

Delete JAVA from your system as well. It is nothing but a bug and Trojan trap. How many updates do you get asked for in a month? They suck.

luvblues2

Check this site out. It will show one a bunch of things about computing and whatnot. Be VERY careful if you don't know what you are doing. You could really mess things up. It is very informative, though.

http://www.howtogeek.com/

luvblues2

I have caught a coupla viruses online that my PC couldn't handle with two or three antivirus programs checking things out. This website called howtogeek alerted me beforehand by reading it weekly, and within an hour or so, stuff was all good. Do NOT attempt to use everything or every program offered. These things have many comments. Read them carefully before you start your plan of action. Never, ever take what one says just by reading the article. Do your homework. Be safe. Always get at least the minimum of 3 opinions from different sources (I recommend ten, but that's just me). Some software that claims to fix, actually harms. RESEARCH. Most viruses can be taken care of manually without a program/software. Use those options first. Again, be thorough in your investigation(s).

Doug7880

Another good place for info is www.twit.tv (TWIT stands for This Week In Tech) didn't want anyone thinking I was being a jerk. The people running this are spot on. Podcast for any subject from Windows to Apple, Security to just simple info. Leo LaPorte from tech tv show Screen Savers owns and operates this site. He has a live radio show that airs from 1-3 every Sat. and Sun. you can't get this on local stations but can watch live and download versions from the above site or on I-tunes. I enjoy only about 8 of his podcast, just a little info. ok call me a fan boy I guess

Contango

"They'll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices."

- Pres. Obama, 5/5/13

"Google ordered to hand private customer data over to FBI investigators":

http://www.guardian.co.uk/techno... front:network-front main-3 Main trailblock:Network front - main trailblock:Position4

The Big Dog's back

"In Corporate America you trust" winnie.

Contango

“I was thinking more like a registered maroon.”

- The Big Dog's back, 06/02/2013

luvblues2

Apple and PC are two different animals Doug. Just sayin'. I have both. Good site. Will check it later. On the Win machine right now. :)

Doug7880

Yes they are. That is why he has about 30 people working for him now to get a wide range of areas covered.

Kimo

All information is up for grabs........ except Jobsohio records...... it's the law.......

It is what it is.......

2cents's picture
2cents

Except who was driving the 39 Cigarette boat last week! LOL

luvblues2

LOL...

arnmcrmn

we still dont know whats in Obamacare either.

The Big Dog's back

Try reading.

Doug7880

What a great job the Federal Courts do.

http://loganbanner.com/bookmark/...

Kimo

Re: "we still dont know whats in Obamacare either."

It's Romneycare with a new name.

Wait for all the negative links on Romneycare by Wingnuts.......

LOL

shucks

Kimo-
Thanks for the reminder.
All that I know is that Romneycare came before or influenced Obamacare.

donutshopguy

Folks,

There is not a transmission of information that is not processed through government computers at the NSA. (National Security Agency) Whether it is read or processed for review is another story. The mechanism is already in place.

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Mime Bloggling

"Who can forget when Maxine Waters praised Obama’s legacy of a “database that no one has ever seen before in life… that’s going to be very very powerful. And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it has never been done before.”

NSA Turns Surveillance Apparatus Against The U.S. Citizens On A MASSIVE SCALE

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/...

Abuse of technology = abuse of power. Think IRS. It's here folks.