Erie County ponders budget cuts

Commissioners ask staff for help finding savings for improvements
Andy Ouriel
May 22, 2013

A potentially grim financial outlook has once again forced Erie County officials to ponder reducing operating expenses.

A memo recently sent to the county's elected officials, department heads and others overseeing boards and commissions asked what impact a 4 percent funding cut could have on a particular operation.

The letter, sent from the county commissioners' office, also asks how officials can conserve taxpayer dollars and generate new income.

But the memo's not a precursor to taxes increasing nor layoffs occurring, Erie County commissioner Pat Shenigo said. Rather, the would-be funds could help cover delayed and neglected facility upgrades.

County commissioners want to spend $401,000 on various infrastructure improvements in 2013 — funds they presently can't afford to expense without depleting their own budget.

Not included in this tab: Major repairs to the Erie County Courthouse and an air conditioner enhancement at the county's services center.

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Comments

Free Man

" Maybe the airport at NASA Plumbrook will bring in new revenue, yes that was sarcasm."
Thank You

KURTje

Yet many mocked the loss of decent paying jobs Ford, New Departure, etc. Guess what?? The rent is due!

God Of Thunder

http://erie.iviewauditor.com/Dat...

How about start proceedings to collect delinquent taxes like this one...Really...Owing almost 94K ??? What does this one have against the county?? And this is only 1 preoperty... Let's make some headway on collecting these delinquent taxes...

Totally ridiculous..

http://erie.iviewauditor.com/Dat...
to go with this property...

120k between 2 properties, owned by the same person... And nothing has been done to him or paid by him...

Centauri

Great comment! Thank you for the links to inform the people. I find that most people do not want to be informed. They are quite content with their willful ignorance and willful refusal to look at the truth. Sheeple?

Gardenman

I agree whats the hold up here Erie County Auditor ??? These are clearly over 12 months in back taxes and thats time enought to get then on the auction block. You start doing that and these folks will start paying up for fear of losing the propety.

God of Thunder good work if you have move to make known get them out there for all to see. Lets get them out into the public's eye.

God Of Thunder

Centauri and Gardenman..The pleasure is all mine.. Maybe the Sandusky Register can look into why, at least, this certain property owner, seems to get away with this.

And if anyone wants his name, look at the previous sales tab..

Julie R.

@ God of Thunder: I noticed in the auditor links you provided under the previous sales tab how quite a few of the lines under DEED TYPE are intentionally left blank.

The auditor's office is real good at withholding that information and I know that for a fact. The auditor's misleading online records pertaining to my mother and stepfather's property make it look like they owned their property jointly and my mother's half was automatically transferred over to her spouse after her death when the real truth was --- the property was NOT owned jointly and my mother's half was fraudulently transferred seven months before her death under a QuitClaims Deed and a POWER OF ATTORNEY that was falsely stated to be on file in the Erie County Recorder --- only there was no Power of Attorney on file.

Under DEED TYPE on that property the line is intentionally left blank, also. There's no mention at all of a QuitClaims Deed or a POWER OF ATTORNEY.

God Of Thunder

Julie...No offense, but you bore me... I'm sorry you went through all the crap you did, but everyone on here as heard it from you dozens of times and how you can take any story and turn it around to be all about you is beyond me...

However, I laugh out loud whenever I see you post your babble...

Julie R.

No offense, but I could care less what you think.

Julie R.

Auditors that authorize fraudulent transfers of property on forged power of attorneys concealed in the Lorain County Recorder, recorders that knowingly file fraud documents, a court that allows their attorney/judge friends to file a forged Will two years after a client's death, another court that works in collusion with attorneys and the sheriff to sell fraudulently transferred property at a scam sheriff sale through a scam partition action and a fraud preliminary judicial report......

http://erie.iviewauditor.com/Res...

Erie County sure does have some real sweethearts for public officials!

God Of Thunder

Yawn...Sweety..

Centauri

http://erie.iviewauditor.com/Dat...

"quite a few of the lines under DEED TYPE are intentionally left blank."

I noticed the lack of deed type in the two previous sales. I also noticed a large numbers of comparables.

What was the reason for the Sherrif's Deed? Was there a sheriff's sale of the property. If so was it because money was owed to a lender or for back taxes?

I have noticed that many of the Erie County (Ohio) properties listed on the county auditors site lack information, have the wrong information or don't make sense for being public records.

Julie R.

You're A-1 correct when you say the auditor's site lacks information and doesn't make sense for being public records. It's sort of like --- they don't come right out and lie but they don't tell the whole truth, either. I noticed that it's not only my mother and stepfather's property that conceals the DEED TYPE information --- a lot of properties on the auditor's site are like that.

The recorder's site is the same way in the fact that it lacks information. If you ask them why you will get told that it "cost too much money" to put all acts upon property online. Not that it really makes that much difference because that information IS there and can be found. There's one thing that can't be done when it comes to property. (unlike dirty financial institutions that get away with it thanks to the corrupt courts) Records on property can not be concealed and/or falsified. If they could, just think of all the trouble it would cause with title companies giving out title insurance and banks giving out loans.

Julie R.

The 1st act upon the property with no DEED TYPE listed was done under a QuitClaims Deed prepared by a Lorain County attorney that falsely stated a POA prepared by my mother's Huron attorney was on file in the Erie County Recorder. This was seven months before my mother's death. I found the forged POA concealed in the Lorain County Recorder after my mother's death.

The 2nd act upon the property with no DEED TYPE listed is a Transfer on Death Deed and it also was prepared by the Lorain County attorney. The date on it was 3 days after the fraudulent transfer of my mother's half in 2002. It was filed right after my stepfather's death in 2005. That Transfer on Death Deed has to be the biggest joke ever. The book and volumn number of the original deed is even crossed out and the number of the fraud QuitClaims Deed is wrote above it.

The 3rd act upon the property -- the Sheriff Sale Deed -- I think I already told that story a hundred times over. The property ~ owned scot-free and clear for 36 years ~ was not in foreclosure and neither was there any back taxes owing. It was sold through a scam partition action and a fraud preliminary judicial report that falsely stated there were no defects in the title because the courts and their attorney friends knew it couldn't be sold through normal channels (i.e. a bank who would require a title search) unless the fraud on my mother's half was acknowledged and the property put back into her probate estate --- and they sure didn't want to do that.

As for all those comparables --- I have no idea what that's all about. Most of the "comparable sales" are properties in the city of Sandusky and the city of Vermilion. So why are properties situated in the city of Sandusky and the city of Vermilion being used as "comparable sales" to property situated in the city of Huron? When I asked somebody at the auditor's office that question a short time ago, he avoided giving me an answer.

Centauri

"It was sold through a scam partition action.."

Thanks for the clarification. Here is the ORC chapter that may pertain to your legal problem.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/5307 Chapter 5307: PARTITION

God Of Thunder brought up two examples of properties that are delinquent in paying taxes. How many years does it take for the county treasurer to go after these taxes? Delinquent taxes are a major problem. What is the hold up? What are the excuses of the county treasurer for not going after those who owe back taxes?

Julie R.

First off, it's not my legal problem. I didn't buy property with serious defects in the title at a scam sheriff sale. I would never be that ignorant. All I did was try to get the joke Erie County courts and those dirt-bag attorneys to follow the law and they refused.

* The law states: "Before property that's part of an estate can be sold, if the administrator of the estate is aware of any fraud having been committed on the property, then the administrator and/or his or her attorneys are to commence an action in the common pleas of the county in which the property is situated to have the fraud acknowledged."

The administrator to her stepfather's estate sure knew there was fraud on the property because she was one of the fraud power of attorneys that fraudulently transferred my mother's half. The Lorain County attorney for a stepfather's estate was also aware of the fraud on the property because he was the one that prepared the QuitClaims Deed for my mother's Huron attorneys and the two idiot fraud power of attorneys and he also prepared the new fraud TOD Deed that defrauded the 4th beneficiary (who wasn't me) to my mother's half.

That's what my legitimate complaints were -- the administrator to her stepfather's estate and her two attorneys (who incidentially were from the same law firm as the Lorain County attorney for the estate) had to commence an action in the common pleas court to have the fraud acknowledged so the property could be put back into my mother's probate estate and sold with a clear title.

That's why I laughed months later when Sandusky attorneys whined that their poor realtor client was denied title insurance. As I think I said before, I was on the phone with the title company when they got the title search report back. The person wasn't even half-way done reading it when she said: "My God! This guy will NEVER get title insurance!"

Oh well. That's your legal system for ya!

Julie R.

"What are the excuses of the county treasurer for not going after those who owe back taxes?"

Probably the same excuses she used when she FORGAVE the $200K back taxes of you-know-who!

Dude i Roc

Please post parcel numbers so we can view the auditor data you are referring about in your post.

Matt Westerhold

Thanks for the comment, God. It's worth noting that the responsibility for collecting taxes and delinquent taxes rests with the Erie County Treasurer's Office, not the County Auditor's Office. 

Centauri

God Of Thunder, I looked at the two parcels that you have listed that are delinquent in back taxes. I found this Sandusky Register news article that listed various businesses that owe taxes.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...
"Owners of Erie County commercial properties are more than $2 million behind in county taxes."

I didn't see the two parcels listed as shown in the list above for Erie County, Ohio.

Centauri
Please

What about the sheriffs department i see like nine million of them driving around, or sitting around. I thought they were meant to be working in the jail. I just saw they were hiring somemore now......what budget problem! Maybe they should stay out of perkins township and work where they belong! Or was that the city of Huron they have been working in. If the commissioners are looking to save money they might want to ask sheriff sigsworth...since he runs the county anyway and owns the commissioners!!!!!!!!!!!!! SANDUSKY REGISTER WHY DONT U DO A STORY ON HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT HAS COMPAIRED TO OTHER COUNTIES.....WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS,BUT I FORGOT, YOU DONT WANT TO MAKE SIGSWORTH MAD!!

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xdefiance

Here here!

What No

SR i agree with please.....do a story on the sheriffs department budget compared to other counties. Seems like they are over staffed.

Centauri

"The letter, sent from the county commissioners' office, also asks how officials can conserve taxpayer dollars and generate new income."

http://www.tax.ohio.gov/real_pro...
"If under ten acres are devoted exclusively to commercial agricultural use, the farm must produce an average yearly gross income of at least $2,500."

http://erie.iviewtaxmaps.com/Dat...
.8 acre
$175,000 land value
$780 CAUV value
$15.06 Tax

How does this .8 acre qualify for CAUV? Does this .8 acre produce an average yearly gross income of at least $2,500?

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captain

Again we hear from Mr. Shenigo. So tired of him. Isn't Mr. Monaghan President? Isn't Mr. Ferrell also a Commissioner. Andy why?

Julie R.

Maybe the county commissioners should send all the public officials back to school to learn the laws, including the judges. That would save the county quite a bit of money.

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xdefiance

Here Here.

Centauri

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...
"Almost 2,300 area properties are tax delinquent, translating to nearly $11 million missing from the county's coffers, according to a Register analysis of financial data obtained through a public records request."

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