Man struck, killed by train

Dead on arrival victim not yet identified
Sandusky Register
Apr 22, 2013

 

A man was struck and killed by a train near Venice Road and Tiffin Avenue at about 4:30 p.m. today.

The man was decapitated, police said. During discussions over scanner traffic, they said the incident was "an obvious dead on arrival."

Police are working to identify the man. He is a white man in his late teens or early 20s, they said.

Keep checking back for updates and pick up a copy of tomorrow's Register for the full story.

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Good 2 B Me

Nice Vote Perkins Police sign placement.

luvblues2

Wow..I think even SyFy has to wait till after 10 PM to get as graphic as that.

Tool Box

Trains don't kill, guns do!

candleburner

The tracks at Venice and Tiffin run parallel so I'm curious where this was supposed to have happened. And this picture looks like the tracks on Old Railroad near the overpass. Will be interesting to get the full details on this one but so sad too

Hoss McGee

I'm thinking between Tiffin and Venice! The overpass you see is the new one they are building.

Curley

This looks like the new overpass being built on Venice Road. You can see 917 just down the tracks.

candleburner

I'd agree with both of you on the picture but if you look closely at just the picture you can see a car on the overpass. I will admit that it's possible that it's the one that they're building however I didn't think they were that far with the building of it yet. I live not far from there and haven't seen that much progress on it. Guess I'll have to drive down there and take another look

bobshumway92

Ban trains.

CAST THE FIRST STONE

killed..decapitated. is this tmz or the register

bobshumway92

Sandumpy Enquirer

Mallory01

You don't like it.... Stop reading it! You are nothing but a troller and have no compassion for humanity. Do everyone a favor and keep your opinions to yourself.

VOTENO

No

MrSandusky

The threat of trains has grown in out society and so has the danger they present. Due to the violent and unforgiving nature of these trains we must ban their existence in our society. We owe this to our children and our children's children. Truly, if you are a decent person you will see the harm that these trains cause and will let your elect officials know that you support train control.

getreal08

I don't feel bad for anyone who gets killed from a train. It is private property and people need to stay away. pull your head out of your butt and stay off the tracks

lmalley77

You don't even know the full story, yet you don't feel bad for "anyone" who is killed by a train?!?!....How do you know that this man wasn't a responsible, upstanding citizen of this community and maybe he was walking to work at Ventra, and a stopped train (as there is usually always one in this area) was blocking his view of the oncoming one. And maybe the reason he was walking across the tracks was because his car is broke down, yet he still has bills to pay, because lord knows none of you "regulars" like paying YOUR taxes towards helping any other human being!...How do you not know all of that, huh????.....If my memory serves me correctly, there have been a number of local deaths caused by one train blocking the sight of another, and therefore causing someone to be killed, by an ACCIDENT!!...Case in point, the two girls who were killed years and years ago out on Remington when Magillas night club was still there!....Maybe none of my theory is true either, but I won't belittle or degrade someone who is no longer on this earth, unlike some of you people who live in your glass houses while constantly throwing stones at other's!....ALL of you who have nothing better to do need to get a new hobby and PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUTTS AND STAY OFF THE COMMENT SECTION OF SANDUSKY REGISTER!!!....Have some freakin empathy about yourselves and maybe better things would come your way!

bobshumway92

No

he said she said

The accident that took the lives of Wightman and Weiber was their young inexperienced drivers fault. There was a train in the siding to allow another train to pass. The gates were down and with the flashing red lights (which should be treated as same as stop lights that we obey while driving; NS police can give you a ticket for running a red light). These two girls went around those gates and were hit by a train that the other train was waiting for. I wished this tragedy never happened but I seriously don't think kids that are just getting their license know what kind of damage a train can do.

happyfeet64

Good for you!!!! I, too get tired of people on here who have no touch with reality or have no compassion for others!!!!

starryeyes83

@ "Imalley" .. Your case in point doesn't hold merit- those girls went around the gates which were down and lights were flashing.. That's the first thing that is taught in drivers ed. Back in those days.

lmalley77

Actually "starryeyes", my case in point does hold merit, as you can see by what I found just by googling the incident!....Sad part is that i was only 12 when it happened, but I STILL knew that it was an ACCIDENT that was caused by one train blocking another!....So before you try to act like you are correcting someone, do a little research yourself, it's called GOOGLE, use it! :)
On February 18, 1989, a Consolidated Rail Corporation (“Conrail”) freight
train collided with a car driven by Michelle Wightman, killing her and her
passenger, Karrie Wieber. Michelle’s mother, Darlene M. Wightman, owned the
car. Darlene Wightman sued Conrail as administrator of her daughter’s estate for
wrongful death and on her own behalf for the destruction of her automobile.
The collision occurred as Michelle Wightman attempted to negotiate a
railroad crossing on Remington Avenue in Sandusky. A Conrail train, SEEL-7,
had experienced mechanical difficulty and sat stopped on the track approximately
two hundred eight feet from the grade crossing at Remington Avenue. Due to its
position when it stopped, SEEL-7 activated the crossing’s flashing lights and gates.
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Witnesses differed on how long SEEL-7 was stopped prior to the crash. One
witness estimated that he first observed the stopped train at about 10:30 p.m., about
ninety minutes prior to the crash. The train’s crew estimated that the train had
stopped somewhere between 11:00 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. SEEL-7’s conductor,
Terry Warner, and its head brakeman, Leroy Powell, saw that the gate arms were
down at the crossing and that traffic was nonetheless proceeding. They recognized
that a dangerous situation existed at the crossing. However, they decided not to
post a flagman at the crossing, and instead the two walked the length of the train to
find and repair the mechanical problem. Warner described their decision as “our
only option.”
The engineer in SEEL-7’s lead engine also saw the heavy Saturday evening
traffic moving over the crossing. He saw no one attempting to turn around and
avoid the crossing. While SEEL 7 was stopped, another train, TVLA, went over
the crossing without incident, traveling at about seventy miles per hour. Radio
communications alerted the SEEL-7 crew that another train, TV-9, was
approaching the crossing. TV-9 would ultimately smash into the car driven by
Michelle Wightman.
About twenty minutes prior to the crash, a Sandusky police officer, Lonnie
Newell, came upon the scene. Officer Newell saw that SEEL-7 created a
dangerous obstruction and requested his dispatcher to advise Conrail of the
situation. Satisfied that Conrail had been notified, Officer Newell left the crossing
to undertake a traffic stop and issue a verbal warning to a driver who had driven
around the gates.
Shortly after Officer Newell left the scene, sixteen-year-old Michelle
Wightman approached the crossing. Several cars in front of the Wightman car
successfully proceeded over the crossing. Michelle Wightman slowly followed.
But, as one witness said, “They didn’t have a chance * * *.” Before the Wightman
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car cleared the crossing, the TV-9 train emerged at a speed of almost sixty miles
per hour and struck the car broadside, instantly killing both occupants.
On October 30, 1990, a jury awarded the estate of Michelle Wightman
$1,000,000 in compensatory damages, allocating sixty percent of the causal
negligence to Conrail and forty percent to Michelle Wightman. The jury also
found Conrail liable for the damage to Darlene Wightman’s property and
determined that Conrail should pay punitive damages on Darlene Wightman’s
claim.
At the time of the trial, former R.C. 2315.21(C)(2) provided for bench
proceedings to determine the amount of punitive damages. The trial judge held
that no punitive damages should be awarded.
The Sixth District Court of Appeals upheld the compensatory award to the
estate, but reversed the trial court’s failure to award punitive damages on Darlene
Wightman’s claim. The appellate court found “that there was clear and convincing
evidence to support the jury’s finding of actual malice on the part of appellant
[Conrail].”

he said she said

I understand what you are saying but understand this: when you come up to a railroad crossing and you see on the right side the X that is used for all crossings, did you ever notice underneath that is a sign that says 1 track, 2 tracks, 3 tracks, etc? Of course not because everyone is in a damn hurry to get where they are and can't wait or turn around when it comes to a train and everyone wants to blame someone else for them doing studid things. There is a sign that says 2 tracks on Remington and if these two girls or anyone else for that matter paid any attention, it means that there are 2 tracks and to beware of oncoming trains if one track is blocked. They went around the gates that were down and the lights flashing. There is a trigger for those gates to come down and lights to flash for a reason!! I wish this accident didn't happen; those girls were taken too young. People need to stand up and take the blame for what they did wrong and quit trying to blame everyone else.

Mallory01

I don't know who you are, but thank you or doing your research and showing a little compassion for my sister. She was a helpless passenger. And, we (the family as a whole) do not fault Michelle. She made a judgement in error, but she was only following others. Do I wish that train wasn't exceeding the driving limit set by the residential area it was running through, YOU BET! It also hurts that this poor boy has been lost. His father is a friend of the family and this tragedy hits home once again. Thank you!

starryeyes83

just following others doesn't hold together either. No one should have crossed even if the train was going slow it's still dangerous and you are doing so at YOUR own risk SAD, but simple as that.

Mallory01

Obviously this is going to be one of those "we agree to disagree". You are obviously defending the train as you stated you are a railroader's kid. I accept that. But, no one is faulting one person in my sister's death. The train should not ave been traveling at 70mph in a residential zone. The other train should have went and directed traffic. The police officer should have stayed and guarded the tracks. No one should have gone around those arms.... Including the driver. They were young and made mistakes, but we are left wondering.... What if? And EVERYTIME I drive over those tracks, I see the cross that DJ Whinnery's father, David, made for our family so we could be at peace. That cross has stayed there since 1989 when he constructed it. I can only hope he can be as strong and weather the storm like that cross has over the years. I can pray that we can in some way lighten his burden of losing his child. No one is blaming anyone in his instance, cannot we just show respect and compassion for someone who has lost his son? Thank you!

bobshumway92

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Tool Box

So let me get this straight, the Engineer didn't kill the person, the train did. Hmmmmm? But guns don't kill???

starryeyes83

The Engineeer didn't do a damn thing wrong ... Why don't you try putting yourself in their shoes for once? I'm a railroaders kid, I know what they go thru when something like this happens and they have no control over other peoples' stupidity or carelessness or delibrate intentions.

bobshumway92

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BEHAPPY

Someone's life was cut short by this horrible tragedy and all you people can do is make fun of the story! This is one SICK world and it keeps getting sicker! My condolences to his family~very sad.

bobshumway92

Yes

eriemom

Totally agree. It's not like the guy digging around in the truck staged the Vote for Police sign and the picture does not show blood and guts. Give these people a break. The train operator, EMS, Police, and especially the deceased man's family deserve more respect than some of you are capable of.

Now, just pretend that your grandmother is reading everything that you post. What would her reaction be? A little civility goes a long way in a civilized society.

bobshumway92

My grandmothers are dead. Death should be banned.

lmalley77

No, you and your ignorance should be banned!!!

bobshumway92

No

shucks

After bobshumway92, then death should be banned.

Commenter

So are you always so Immature bob?

bobshumway92

Yes. Are you?

KnuckleDragger

Let me suggest that you lefty do gooders keep your mouths shut on guns then and have some respect for the victims and their families whenever there is a mass shooting. On that note, this was likely not an accident, but a suicide by train.

Tool Box

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KnuckleDragger

No, work in EMS and with maybe a couple of exceptions over the past 26 yrs they have all turned out to be suicides. So tool box, quit being a tool! It shouldn't be hard to figure out. The man was seen by a worker walking along the tracks and then the train came to a screeching halt. Unless you are deaf, it would be impossible not to hear a train carrying 30 cars of coal coming. The track ping, the ground rumbles, and the sound of the diesel engine is loud. My guess is that the man simple stepped in front of the train. That's my OPINION, just I'm sure you have yours. I guess we will wait and see. I hope I'm wrong, but either way the result is the same, some poor young guy is dead.

Mrjsiah1

Now the ems come on man or woman quit lying while you are ahead every post you put on here your lies getting worse a teacher, lie about working at firelands in the emergency room , lady called you out about working at the rent to own. Now this all in two years man get off the drugs get help your lies are getting worse

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KnuckleDragger

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YAWWNN

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KnuckleDragger

In a word, Gross!!!

VOTENO

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KnuckleDragger

Come on guys, let's go get a beer.

happyfeet64

Knucledragger,not true I've walked along those tracks alot of times b4 the construction going to work @ Mcdonald's and also the tracks there on Venice while I lived @ the shelter with earbuds in my ears listening to music and have NOT heard trains. If it wouldn't have been for the arms and lights' I wouldn't have known. Reason for earbuds @ high volume? Because of all the MEN who think a lone woman walking in that area is a hooker-got tired of ignorant men propositioning me- even in a Mickey D's uniform,they didn't care!

starryeyes83

You mean to say that you couldn't FEEL the ground vibrations? Or the rumbling of the tracks?

awesome

You can't swerve a train to miss someone... This kid graduated with me and he was so sexy. He was a very good kid and very smart. It was suicide sadly. :'(

Tool Box

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BEHAPPY

Double post

starryeyes83

People need to stay off the damn tracks, I feel bad for the engineer's family too.. Why is it no one ever thinks what they go through- when it's clearly NOT their fault.

You cannot stop a 20 ton locomotive on a dime, people. The last I knew It took at least 2 miles braking distance, maybe more.

I'm just remembering what was hammered in my head when I was a kid... my dad's crew went through something similiar... all because some idiot tried to outrun a train.

deertracker

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starryeyes83

Hmmm, that thought did cross my mind, yes, seems to be getting more commonplace.

KnuckleDragger

I thought the same thing. Now I'm getting ripped for it.

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Tool Box

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Tool Box

Oh, I missed Train Engineer

KnuckleDragger

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grandmasgirl

We don't yet know why this happened. All we know is that a young man has lost his life. I know how frustrated you can get by waiting on a train, but as starryeyes said, a train cannot stop on a dime. But then again, maybe this young man knew that. Or it could be that he walked behind a train that was already stopped. If the train was going fast, he might have been pulled into the train's path.

asweetnessabove

My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to both the family of the young man who lost his life and the engineer and his family. So sad.

bobshumway92

Stay off the tracks.

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Mime Bloggling

Some mother's son has gone from this world...RIP.

Whopper2013

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Tool Box

...train always wins!

JERRY from SANDUSKY

Ban the tracks keep the trains

lmalley77

Most of you "regulars" need to grow up and get a life outside of commenting your rude and insenstive thoughts on Sandusky Register.com!! A man, possibly somebody's father, bother, or uncle, and definitely somebody's SON, has lost their life tragically and all you can think to do is post trash on a website behind a computer screen and fake name! I sure do pray that nothing so tragic ever happens to one of your family members and they become the butt of someone's jokes and insensitivity!!!....GROW UP!!.....And people wonder why the world that we live in is so crazy, you don't have to look very far outside of your own city to see why!
Praying for all parties involved in this tragedy!

deertracker

Well said! Agreed!

tk

Totally agree.

KnuckleDragger

If you don't want to read people's opinions, stay off the comment boards.

Mallory01

Amen!

Mallory01

Not to you knuckle dragger......

awesome

Some of you people are very disrespectful. He graduated in my class and was the cutest guys I've met. He was a good kid and shouldn't be gone. He's too young. Rest in Paradise DJ. Xoxo

KnuckleDragger

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awesome

They do. I'm only saying he was very attractive. MY BAD FOR STATING MY OPINION!

VOTENO

Cute? Get a life.

fedup2

I couldn't have said it any better "lmalley77"..and "awesome", my condolences to your classmate. I heard it was DJ too. So very sad for his family as well as the train engineer.

lmalley77

Can you tell me what DJ's name is?....My daughter thinks she may know him as well :(

yeahme

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andrew43420

you know it really pisses me off to see all the stupid comments on here about train control and what not, I think some people need to grow up! there was a life that was ended way to short and all you can think of is dumb stuff like that come on people, I hope whoever you are your mom finds you and grounds you from your computer cause you have to be what? 12 or 13 years old

RV

Such a sad story. It happened where the new overpass is going in. My work is right behind where it happened. It was a coal train so it wasn't moving fast.....RIP young soul......

awesome

DJ Whinnery :(

Rabbi

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he said she said

A man is dead and his family probably doesn't know yet; I keep them all in my thoughts.

The man was trespassing on NS property. The NS police could have arresting him for that. The engineer and the conductor were taken out of service for something that was not their fault. A train cannot swerve to miss someone that is on the tracks or by the tracks. A train cannot stop on a dime when the length is anywhere from eight cars to 125 car lengths long. A coal train moves at the speed of maybe 10 MPH while going to and from the coal docks but they look like they are going faster because trains are opitcal illusions. You cannot tell how fast they are really going.

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bushwacker

very sad. I know is family pretty well. He was good kid, great athlete who came from a good family. My heart goes out to all of them.Very tragic, very very sad! God Bless them all!

VOTENO

I have to go with bob on this one.

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awesome

All of you inconsiderate people need to get a life and stop posting negative comments. No one knew why he did it and no one knew he was possibly depressed. Get your nonsense off of here and be more respectful.

Just Because

Lets not jump to conclusions. Maybe he was just out walking and simply slipped. Lets hope it was simply an accident. Not that it brings him back but give the family some peace! My heart goes out to his family. Young life lost too soon!