Man shot outside church after Easter services

One dead in Ashtabula
Associated Press
Apr 1, 2013

 

Police in northeast Ohio are investigating a shooting outside a church that a parishioner says left one man dead after an Easter service.

Ashtabula police would not immediately confirm the fatality; an officer answering the telephone would say only that authorities were investigating.

A member of the Hiawatha Church of God in Christ said the man was shot soon after Easter services ended, around 1:15 p.m. Sunday. Joan Crockett said the man knew the shooter, and that a suspect was taken into custody. She said the wounded man died.

The Plain Dealer newspaper in Cleveland reported that the church's pastor said congregants were leaving when they heard a gunshot.

"People pushed me into a back office and said, 'Somebody's here with a gun,'" said the Rev. David Howard Jr. "The guy was outside hollering and acting crazy."

There were no immediate reports of any other injuries.

Howard said the church has about 175 members. He said people at the church didn't know what led up to the shooting.

"It's such a tragic loss," Crockett said.

 

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Suspect says shooting 'will of Allah'

http://starbeacon.com/breakingne...

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KnuckleDragger

Nah, how can that be? Just yesterday we had our resident know it alls, deerturd, little mongrel, and Pteramybrains Fraxtured telling us how peaceful all muslims are.

Huron_1969

How in the world did you folks link Muslims to this shooting?

KnuckleDragger

Did you not click on the link 2Cents provided to a local paper that reported this? Click it and read.
http://starbeacon.com/breakingne...

deertracker

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KnuckleDragger

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The Big Dog's back

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Pterocarya frax...

For allegedly having multiple post graduate degrees, I would expect you to be able to come up with more clever name calling than that.

The Answer Person

Gee gosh oh golly, If only he had had a gun, he could have protected himself. See? This is why we need MORE guns.

NOT...

KnuckleDragger

Gee gosh, oh golly, if only the killer would not have had access to a gun and used a knife, then the deceased would still be alive. See? This is why we need more knives. Not...

How about you liberal do gooders focus as much time on getting these nuts locked up in the loony bin before they kill as you do trying to ban the instrument used to do it? Typical lib, solve problems with the gut and not with the mind.

coasterfan

Conservative do-gooders have cut funding for mental health services, so there is less chance to lock "these nuts up in a loony bin". Oftentimes, people show no outward signs of mental illness, and have no criminal record - until they decide to kill using a gun. Since Republicans' answer to everything is to cut funding, perhaps you can explain How we can do a better job identifying those with mental illness and providing services they need, WHILE your party has cut the resources that would allow us to do so. Typical conservative, with your unfunded mandates, which, like No Child LefT Behind, won't solve anything.

Unlike conservatives, we Democrats have a more responsible and mature solution, an "all of the above" approach in which we believe that common sense restrictions on assault weapons, background checks for gun owners, and improved mental health screening/identification can each help improve the situation. This contrasts with Republican gun nuts, whose answers are the typical narrow minded push to blame all of the problem on mental illness, then do nothing to increase funding for mental health screening, all the while ignoring the OBVIOUS: if gun killings is the issue we are trying to solve, guns are part of the problem.

Isn't it funny to hear Republicans label we Progressives as clueless? They just don't get it, which is why they keep losing elections...

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Don’t blame all Muslims! I have a Muslim barber, yea a razor in his hand and me in a chair LOL. It is the fanatics we have to watch out for; they pick and choose what parts of their religion they want to follow.

shucks

I bet you are REAL careful about what you say about Mohammed.

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Not really, I was in there one day when a Christian Arabic guy, a teacher in a Cleveland college started arguing with a radical young Muslim guy about the mideast. He put them in their place, sheesh. My 9mm was in the car :(

shucks

If YOU got into a heated argument while he was shaving you... in the car is too far.
I honestly wouldn't be too confident.

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No No No, the other two guys, I was watching Aljazeera TV, could not understand anything until he told me about it. It was funny but the clientele wonder why I go there anyway. Good inexpensive haircut an Arabic friend told me about.

KnuckleDragger

If he has a razor to his neck then even if he had the 9mm on his side, it would probably be too far away. LOL.

shucks

Very true

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Kimo

The DA in Texas carried a gun everywhere he went. The killer had the element of surprise. DA was found shot. Gun is only good if you draw first and don't miss.........
More guns sold, more hype, more people end up dead, more rhetoric about locking up nutcase people........ SSDD.........

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It was a planned hit on he and his wife, so it would be kinda hard to plan for that! There is an agenda going on down there, it will be interesting to see what it turns out to be!

deertracker

Agreed! Something is going on when these things happen. This has nothing to do with self defense. The original DA in the Jerry Sandusky case is yet to be found! Hmmmmmmmm!!!!

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KnuckleDragger

Apparently you've not looked up any of the criminological studies related to self-defense with a firearm. Your post is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric. Typical, since that is the only thing liberals have to advocate gun control. They play on emotion because the statistics don't support their claims.

coasterfan

Actually, playing on emotion, rather than statistics is exactly how the NRA operates. They push for guns for homeowners to protect themselves against intruders, when stats show that a very very small number of homeowners actually ever use their guns against an intruder. Statistics also show that guns are FAR more likely to be used against a family member than an intruder.

Small wonder that on many issues, 85-90% of Americans do not side with the NRA. Read yesterday that the NRA is robo-calling homes in Sandy Hook. Sorry, but there is absolutely no way their actions or policies can be defended. If you agree with the NRA on anything, You May Be a Redneck.

Centauri

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...
"Associate Pastor Sean Adams said Reshad then continued into the church, still holding the gun, and yelled that the killing was 'the will of Allah. This is the will of God."

Kimo

Re:"statistics don't support"

I owned guns before you were hatched. I still own guns.
The legislative branch can pass all the laws they want, the cows are out, it's too late. Too many guns on the street to control.
I will stick with my statement.
I we both have guns and you have the element of surprise, I'm dead.
Of course that works both ways, there is no protection from the element of surprise.
Like I said, SSDD, people will continue to die.
end of story.
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deertracker

Agreed!

The Big Dog's back

Sooooo, did Ross shout out to Allah before he killed Amy Ross?

The Big Dog's back

Did Tim McVeigh do the will of God?

The Big Dog's back

Salem witch burnings - Christian
Waco Texas - Christian
Timothy McVeigh - Christian
Jones Town - Christian
KKK - Christian
Nazism - Christians
Adolph Hitler - Catholic
Serbians - Christian
IRA ( Irish Republican Army ) - Christian
Iron Guard - Christian
911 - Muslim
Irish Republican Army - Christian

Huron_1969

awww, how cute..... cherry picking info to paint a picture

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Idiot

The Big Dog's back

Point being no one Religion has the lead when it comes to murder.