Perkins school board decides on cuts

After wrestling for weeks, the school district makes announcement on downsizing.
Sandusky Register Staff
Mar 19, 2013

 

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Perkins2060

VOTE NO ON BOTH LEVIES!

Kelly

VOTING YES!

Perkins2060

You and the three others..

Kelly

You know three? I know a lot more than that.

Perkins2060

Find me on here after the election on the article saying how badly both levies got defeated. They have NO chance at all. You are living in a dream world.

Perkins0602

Find me on here after the election on the article saying how badly both levies passed.

bobshumway92

Perkins2060 has a stalker.

bobshumway92

Not a chance either will pass.

Tool Box

Yeah, I'll be voting NO also along with my family of 12. Those cuts look great!

bobshumway92

All 16 of my family members will be voting no. We had a few yes voters who are UAW until I told them to drive by Furry and Meadowlawn's parking lots to observe all the foreign cars the teachers and staff drive. Changed their yes votes to no votes real fast.

Perkins0602

So based on your philosophy, if the levy fails, the teachers who buy american should start buying foreign?

VOTENO

Vote NO! Union teachers driving foreign cars! Vote NO!

Perkins0602

VOTE YES ON BOTH LEVIES!

bobshumway92

VOTE NO ON BOTH LEVIES!

Perkahontas

I hope they don't cut those "good guy[s] with a gun" the NRA wants to raise taxes for.

Perkins2060

I just read the proposed cuts. It looks like a good start. I would like to see more cuts.

Hoss McGee

I'm goin to vote yes this time! Yes I do live in Perkins Twp. Birchwood Dr. To be exact. Even though I believe Gunner is a D-Bag I'm going to give the school the benefit of the doubt. See if the cuts do happen and there will be a yes the next vote

Lil DAB

Why? You will be stuck paying if they don't pull through. ANd so will all your neighbors, seniors and future taxpayers! VOTE NO!

Hoss McGee

Don't know why it posted 2 times

wkgreen3914@gma...

A sad state of affairs when the voters turn against the kids. They are not the ones who got the district into this mess. If all of you NO voters want to send a message, vote out the Board members! They are the ones making the poor financial decisions. Stop talking about how they messed up and show them by voting them out of office.

Perkins0602

VOTE YES ON BOTH LEVIES!

bobshumway92

VOTE NO ON BOTH LEVIES!

bobshumway92

VOTE NO FOR THE KIDS!

Perkins0602

Vote Yes for the kids!

Lil DAB

Vote them out of office AND VOTE NO! It is not voters against the kids! That is nothing more than brainwashed propaganda! Property owners already SUPPORT the kids! Check your property taxes and see how much of it goes to SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS! VOTE NO!

Hoss McGee

Hey Gunner I live on Birchwood Dr. Where you live?

Cowboy

VOTE NO! Looks like we had a lot of fat to cut.

bobshumway92

Still have a lot more to go.

bobshumway92

Open enrollment must end for any chance at all of a levy passing.

Brainiac2007

Exactly, im against the open enrollment also! So sick of kids from other districts coming in and taking over, then this dumba$$ staff working allow the kids of our community to sit out of things and allow the others to barrel in! Im done paying for this school system to emotionally torture my child! Let the parents of the open enrolled pay the price, they run the show anyhow!

Kelly

LOL Emotionally torture?

Perkins0602

By eliminating open enrollment, does not guarantee your kids more playing time. Talent and work ethic usually does!

Hoss McGee

Brainiac2007 what are your kids sitting out of? Maybe if they would try harder they wouldn't be sitting out! Quit your crying and get off the couch and help your kids so they're not sitting out.

Not Yer Pa

The coach knows daddy is a crybaby pain in the a$$ and cut the kid so he doesn't have to deal with the whining. You don't have to be a Brainiac to figure that out.

Brainiac2007

Amazing! I bet you have seen our family at sporting events, not one word ever comes from our end of the bleachers! We have not spoke up EVER, but will be from this point on, as will other parents. This will be something that ends up in the media, if you think its one parent sitting back upset your dead wrong, parents talk, children bring home things, and other children that have made teams have been witnesses to certain incidents! It happens in every school district and you know it as well as I do! Like I said, the ones on here claiming that no wrong doings have occurred must be the ones handing over money when Perkins cries their broke, and you must be an a$$ kisser that bends over for them so your children can get what you want them to have! PERIOD!

Brainiac2007

Mr Hoss McGee;
1st off I would love to have time to sit on the couch! I work fulltime, and I am a college student fulltime, my husband also works fulltime, as well as works with my son with schooling and sports. So until you know what your talking about, keep thy mouth shut! As far as the other individual stating that talent and ethic is what gets playing time, well I rest assure you my son has the talent and the WORK ETHIC to make it happen! Lets see, last year he played baseball, we were told by coaches how impressed they were in how he performed, for being his first year he was either at or above level of the other players, but hmmm this year he was cut BEFORE ALL PLAYERS EVEN SHOWED UP TO PRACTICES....fishy I might add. It doesn't matter, there's a running log on the conduct of these individuals and I know what has been happening. Its not just my child either, its other children and there's other parents that are just as unhappy as myself with the conduct of these adults so to speak! The children mistreated by the school systems today will be the ones to prosper, but sad they have to take the crap they do! Your children must come from a big name in Perkins or a family that's constantly kissing a$$ and handing over money at their beck and call....Im sure THATS WHAT GUARANTEES PLAYING TIME IN PERKINS!

VOTENO

I will be voting no if you can't tell.

Just Saying

Wise decision not to eliminate sports or band. My bet is Perkins would have lost a lot of students to one of the many surrounding schools that accept open enrollment. Hmm, guess then we wouldn't need such a big Campus.

VOTENO

That would have been a good thing

Just Saying

Yep - they'll use that scare tactic for the next levy! And I just read John/Lori Schlessman's Letter to the Editor in tonight's paper -while I like and respect each of the Schlessman's, I think comparing all the other schools in the tri-county area accepting open enrolled students is misleading. Not one of these other schools accepted any where near the number that Perkins has, which is what -500? or so?? They probably each have less than 50, and that's being generous.

devilsadvocate

I don't live in Perkins so I am staying out of the levy issue, but after looking at the cuts, it appears that a lot of these cuts can be called "fluff".

VOTENO

Agreed.

Cowboy

You got that right!

Tmm

All those who get cut will be called back less than a month before the 2013 2014 school year begins. Big mouths at the school board office said so. Loose lips sink ships

VOTENO

Is this true?

coasterfan

Three thoughts: #1:those voting no on any school levy, should be embarrassed at their selfishness. When you were a kid, adults supported and paid for YOUR education by passing levies. Your no vote hurts kids more than anyone else, yet you think it's more important to send a message to adults with whom you disagree.

#2 Why is it that people with no degree in Education think they are experts at anything related to schools? We wouldn't make the mistake of thinking we are as good at installing plumbing as a professional plumber, and wouldn't think of trying brain surgery, unless we had training to do it. But every semi-literate yahoo seems to think that they know better how to run a school than professionals who have training and who have far more curricular expertise than most of us.

#3 When you read the lists of school staffing cuts across the state this Spring, let's give credit where credit is due: Gov. Kasich cut funding to schools, at a time when local districts are already unable to adequately fund operations. Why are we putting money into a State Rainy Day fund, when many districts are experiencing a crisis? Just how big does the downpour need to get before Kasich will wake up?

Matt Easterhold

Wow, your comment #2 may be the one of the dumbest things anyone has ever said on here. Semi-literate yahoo's pay THE SCHOOLS BILLS so they don't have to be experts, they just need to show up to the polls. It is the responsibility of the all-knowing educators to keep the public informed. I personally don't listen to educators when it comes to levies, because they are more concerned with getting their RAISES every year. Which by the way come from semi-literate yahoo's hard earned money, who also probably have to EARN their raises based on performance, not on union contracts.

I hope a couple more of us semi-literate yahoo's read your comments and decide to vote no because of your attitude towards non-educators. Bottom line, the people of Perkins will have LESS of their money if this passes and the schools will have MORE of their money. It's so funny when educators scream about how it is about the kids, we all know it's about your pockets.

Perkins2060

Vote NO!

Perkins0602

Vote YES!

Lil DAB

This should pizz voters off too. COLUMBUS — Fund managers at Ohio’s state teacher pension system took in nearly $4 million in bonuses last year – with many of the bonuses alone more than the governor’s salary.

The State Teachers Retirement System – the second largest public pension system in Ohio and 19th largest in the nation – is handing out big bonuses even when they’re not deserved. Ultimately, that money comes out of the retirement fund for the state’s nearly half million current and retired educators.

Since 2005, the STRS paid out $38.6 million in bonuses to its roughly 80-member investment staff. OPERS paid $10.7 million, which does not include 2012.

SO speaking of "FAT!" Trim some more off the true fatties' budget and put it back in the schools instead of coming to our pocketbooks! VOTE NO!

http://news.cincinnati.com/artic...

richrs

In regards to #1: The only two people that paid my edication was my parents, and the tuition wasn't cheap at St. Marys. But through their property taxes they did support the education of a lot of other students in the Perkins system.
Maybe those of us who know nothing about education should just all vote no and only those with a masters and state teaching certificate vote yes. wonder how well that will fly?

oldpirate

Just sayin what you left out is that Perkins had so many students because that many wanted to be there. The other schools wish they had that many because it MAKES MONEY!

Just Saying

I want a lot of things too. Sorry, but move to Perkins, pay Perkins property taxes and vote on Perkins tax levys if you want your children to attend Perkins Schools.

SmokingGunn

Voting NO...wasteful system to say the least. One of the largest employers in Perkins are laying off with a bleak future ahead. Why would anyone want to chance higher tax burdens when they are not even sure they can be able to pay the current burdens they face. For me, I am on a fixed income, I have no plans to share any more of my funds until ALL waste has stopped, including busing when walking to school is still an option, reducing administrators. I dont even want to talk about that fancy field off of Strub Road and the upkeep it requires now.
We all know where they will cut at and I can just about guarantee it wont be the football program, thats the sacred cow that no one can touch..it will be where other talents are (band, art etc..) Its just a do over as it was 10-15-20 years ago..and they still cant manage money. No is No..

BooBeeDoo'

Briar School isn't that large. Why do they need two administrators? I suggest Gunner and the BOE think about removing Finn (who is double dipping)and have Quisno do the job. It would save $77,900 per year!

samantha

wow. you're clueless. 600+ teenagers in one building requires one principal for discipline alone. like double dipping or not, from the school's perspective, it saves them money.

BooBeeDoo'

Clueless Samantha? Dean Stanfield seems to be doing just fine without an assistant principal at Meadowlawn (580 students).As I said before, the district should unload the "double dippers." We would save $77,900 per year.

Cowboy

It's time to take a stand and VOTE NO! As you could see from the cut list, they have been wasting our money with fluff for years! If they would have never added this fluff in the first place we would have had enough money to pay for the original grandiose complex and a water fountain, and a bell tower!

Perkins2060

Coasterfan just cemented the NO vote with those ignorant comments!

oldpirate

vote yes!

oldpirate

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Perkins2060

VOTE NO!

Perkins0602

VOTE YES!

Perkins2060

Perkins0602 is voting yes.

Perkins2060

Perkins0602 is my kind of woman.

Perkins0602

I did not know putting "Vote Yes" on a blog was stalking! You want people who support the levy to attack no voters, so you can create more hositility! You will not get that from me.
You automatically assume Im a teacher because I support the levy. I can also assume you do not live in the district, you do not own a house, you have four different user names on this blogs, you have pet gerbels, you love black licorice, you like the Yankees, and so on. Anyone can sit behind a computer screen and say positive/ negative comments about yes and no voters! I did not state any facts, just support by voting yes. Just in two post of me saying Vote Yes!, you called me a stalker and hoped I would lose my job! Even though you have said negatives comments towards me, I hold nothing against you. I hope you keep your job and wish nothing but the best in your future.

One last thing, you are right! It is not about the kids, its about the Community! You and me being a part of it!

Perkins2060

Taking a screen name close to mine is stalking. Posting after every one of my posts is stalking. I can assure you I own my home and can assure you I pay much higher property taxes than you could ever dream of. Your levy has no chance in passing. Keep up the positive thinking though if it makes you feel good.

Perkins0602

I can gurantee I pay more property value then you can ever dream! Did you not read my previous post carefully? Anyone can post anything on this blog. Truth and fiction. I gurantee I have more friends then you. This Alpha male thing is working for you! I really like this side of you.

P.S its not stalking when you are replying to my post! Thanks for building my confidence up! I really need it since I have tiny house!

Perkins2060

I'm not going back and fourth with you. Have at it. I'm done posting on here. Wasting my time anyway. Levy is going to fail no doubt. My work here is done.

Perkins0602

Thank you for not going wanting to go back and forth! My work here is done!

bobshumway92

Why don't you two love birds get a room.

Just Saying

Or agree to disagree! Free speech and democracy are the foundations of our country -appreciate it.

Perkins2060

Go Tribe! Been a season ticket holder for more than 25 years.

Strong Schools ...

I agree that people are only going to hurt the children. You can say that you are trying to "stick it" to the board members but they are not the ones in the schools learning every single day. If you vote no, you are only hurting the children and your chance to have a better progressive community. People are not going to want to move here if we can not offer their children a safe and healthy learning environment to get a 21st century education. Take out your anger when the board members are on the ballot, not the children! How can you base your vote on a foreign car? So, I am hearing that all students need to be punished because an educator chooses to drive a foreign car??? That makes no sense to base your vote on a car. This totally baffles me and it saddens me that people are not educating themselves on what this could do for our community and schools. Stay focused and vote for our children. VOTE YES!

Strong Schools ...

Don't give up Perkins 0602! Keep the positives coming!

bobshumway92

Strong Schools doesn't consist of having new buildings. Vote no to preserve the township.

Strong Schools ...

Just Saying,
Perkins Schools enrolls over 500 students in open enrollment because we have a great education system within our community. It is sad that other people believe in getting a Perkins education but the community does not believe it. We have outsiders who are more supportive than some of our own..sad! Vote Yes and support the children!

Wald

Perkins technically has an "effective" education system, down from "excellent", which it was before open enrollment. Another reason to vote no!

reese

So, Wald, exactly which year(s)was it that Perkins was rated "excellent"? Can you give us a link to this?

Oh yeah, it was rated excellent in 2009-2010 school year when they had open enrollment. Before that it was rated effective. After that it was rated effective.

Wald

Yes, you're right, Perkins is almost never rated excellent, in spite of the laptop program, which I guess should be cut also since, according to your findings, it doesn't seem to be making a difference. Thank you for yet another reason to vote NO
!

asecretlife

The 2011-2012 School Year Report Card rates the school as "Excellent"
http://www.ode.state.oh.us/repor...

Am I not looking in the right spot for the effective ratings??

Just Saying

Perkins Schools recent rating was "effective" - Uhhh, not so great anymore! Due to open enrollment - I wonder??

Strong Schools ...

Coasterfan,

Thank you for your comments. I know a lot of people would agree with you. Don't worry about the negativity from other bloggers. Keep the positives coming and stay strong for our students and community. VOTE YES!

oldpirate

Perkins 2060 with all your cerebral comments I can certainly understand why someone would follow your every word.

Perkins2060

You're old.

bobshumway92

You're in love with 0602 and vice versa.

reese

Vote YES for the school levies! Then vote out the school board and get rid of Gunner!

Wald

Vote NO to both levies and send a message to Gunner and the BOE!

oldpirate

SHOW EM WALD . VOTE NO AND END UP PAYING MORE. BRIGHT

Wald

Vote NO to force more cuts and downsizing and we'll pay less. Yes, it is bright, old pirate. Thank you for the complement!

bobshumway92

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? TURN DOWN YOUR HEARING GLASSES.

senioritis

We could ask you the same thing. In order to stop "yelling" online, you usually turn your caps lock OFF.

oldpirate

Just impressions. Wald you will only end up paying more at some point. It will happen.

observer

Strong Schools......
First it was we're making the students suffer. Now you're accusing us of hurting the students, and also punishing them. You have any idea how much that turns people off? It's a ridiculous, slanderous, accusation that I'm frankly sick of hearing! I said it before and I'll tell you again. You're making yourself look bad, and turning people against you. We're smarter than that!

Strong Schools ...

Observer,
Thank you for your comments. I must be hitting a button or soft spot with you because you are getting so upset. The comments I am making are a voice of many positive people in this community. There are people who believe that our children deserve the best. Frankly, I think they are worth more than $20 a month. I hope your children are not reading your blogs. They are very hurtful to the students and the people who will be effected by this levy. You need to take your anger to the polls when the board is on the ballot not the children. I do believe they will suffer. I do believe they will be punished, and negativity from "observers" like you only make our community weaker. If you do not like what I post than please do not read. I am a voice for some people who believe in what our children can become with the proper resources. Remember, you have not had a tax increase for 13 years. Invest in their future and our future. Again, I will not go to a level where I will be seen ridiculing people for expressing their rights and opinions. "Observer" , I wish you could respectfully have a conversation with educated thoughts and not harsh remarks. Stay focused on who this is about. The children and our community. Not the board. Vote Yes!

observer

Amazing that you consider MY comments as being from someone who's "angry", but YOUR comments that people who don't agree with you are "HURTING, PUNISHING, MAKING OUR CHILDREN SUFFER" are OK!! Besides that, when I called you on it a few days ago, you denied making those comments, even when another person reminded you that you had! I AM upset with your comments! Your accusations are ridiculous!

YOU want to pass a levy to raise taxes! YOU want to HURT our elderly people! YOU want to make them unable to afford their medication! YOU want to take away money they would use to buy food! YOU want to make them lose their homes because they can't afford the mortgage payment! YOU are putting their lives in DANGER!!!

Stay focused on who this is about.

You need to think about all the people who simply CANNOT AFFORD it! I do believe they will suffer. I do believe they will be punished, and negativity from people like you only make our community weaker.

See? I can make just as many accusations as you! If you do not like what I post than please do not read.

Wald

Strong, you should have told Gunner to think about the children and community before he moved taxpayer funds. Now the failed levies will be on him and the BOE! Vote NO!

futurechange

Strong, you make some very good comments and you must be pushing some buttons because as you've been sharing things with these blogs, I did some fact checking on some of your posts and you are actually 100% correct with the information you've shared - thanks for doing your homework. Wald, the levies aren't the way to get back at the BOE, voting no for the BOE during elections is the way to get back at the BOE. What's interesting is that as I read these blogs, no one seems to really be against the levy. They are against the BOE and their decisions. Well, we have an opportunity to make a difference to really create a stellar school system and with new buildings, which will advance our community and grow our township into the 21st Century - not keeping it in a 1950's builing, or older. So, lets focus on passing those levies and when the time comes lets focus on installing a new BOE. But right now, no mater what anyone says, the schools are in horrible shape and in much need to be rebuilt/or built new. I'm voting YES on this levy for the kids and this community. Most likely I may not share the same type of vote during the BOE elections when they come around.

donutshopguy

Are we hurting children when we don't pass a health levy? Are we hurting the children when we don't pass a metro park levy? Are we hurting children when we don't pass a police levy? Should I continue? You can use this excuse for almost any tax levy.

Taking away a community's right to vote hurts the children.

Lets get real. There is a 2 mill operating levy that's up for renewal. There is a new 5 mill operating levy . This new operating levy would not be necessary if the school board would not have moved millage around to build a new school. This move in millage was done for the purpose of eliminating public vote on the building process.

Mr. Gunner, in my meeting with him, said that the BOE took a calculated risk in the moving of millage. But, then said they will continue to put up the new operating levy till it passes. He said the school will be build with or without the passing of the 5 mill levy.

This information is not conjecture. It was a personal conversation with the leader of our school system.

The BOE took purposeful steps to eliminate the public vote on a 50 million dollar school.
The BOE took purposeful steps to put your children in educational harms way to achieve their goal.

Who is hurting the children? Who is using the children as pawns to achieve their master plan?

You might want to open your eyes.

Lil DAB

Looks like there is money in the state school retirement system! Get it there and stay out of our pockets!
http://www.dispatch.com/content/...

reese

Education of our children is the most important strategy/resource that we have to improve the future economic and social outlook of this community! If we want to improve the quality of life in this area, we need to invest in the most precious resource we have.

Those who are thinking of following the people who are angry at the board and want to damage the educational system by cutting resources, please think about the long term impact on this community and its children.

donutshopguy

Reese,

Which will have a greater affect on the community, a reduction in the police force or a reduction in education?

reese

Interesting question, donutshopguy! Which of those things is more closely connected to, or more likely to impact the economic conditions in the community?
IMO, our schools have been falling behind for a while now. Our children are not being prepared sufficiently for the jobs of the future which would allow them to make enough money to support their families. To allow them to fall further behind now, will lead to further economic hardship for them in the future. It is a situation that exists all across this country. Some schools/communites are making efforts to correct this situation. Others are not. When economic times get hard, crime increases. When crime increases, you need more police. So, which do you address first? When you have more police because there is more crime, does the economy get better...does the quality of life get better? There are many factors that contribute to crime. A good education that leads to a productive life can help reduce crime and improve the quality of life.

asecretlife

Excellent school rating??

http://www.ode.state.oh.us/repor...

Just Saying

Call me petty, but I'll never vote yes again for a Perkins school levy because I don't like how open enrollment was forced down taxpayer throats. Sorry, but the walls can fall down.

donutshopguy

reese,

Good thought out logic.

observer

Reese, do you really believe sitting inside a new school makes a student more intelligent? The things that are taught in school, and the students willingness to apply themselves, their ambition, have nothing to do with the four walls surrounding the classroom. Besides, almost every graduate who goes on to college moves away from this area after they graduate! There are NO jobs in this area. Building a new school won't change that.

reese

I wasn't addressing so much the new school building, but rather the need for improving the resources available to the students inside the buildings, including the teaching staff, the learning opportunities available to the students,the resources and the learning environment. Cutting teachers and programs does not improve the schools. Cutting funds available for teachers' involvement in enrichment and skill development opportunities does nothing to improve the schools...it pushes them backwards.
Most professionals have the need to stay up to date with new ideas and approaches to improve their skills in their areas of expertise. Teachers are no different.
School environment does impact students;community environment impacts students.
I agree, many of our top students leave this area because there are no opportunities for them to practice in their chosen professions. That is a separate issue that needs to be addressed. Having a top notch education system does attract business. Just because things are the way they are right now does not mean they have to stay that way, but the community and leadership needs to get its head out of the sand and change some things. The community needs to start electing people who are connected to this community and who have a vision for making things happen. We need leadership that can rally the community around them, not bully and circumvent the citizens.

underthebridge

Actually, Perkins ratings have continued to flatline since Gunner came here. The high school has an EXCELLENT rating, but the rest of the buildings and the district overall are rated EFFECTIVE. This is despite the current administration's promotion of preparing 21st century learners by handing out laptops to students from grade 6 - 12 at a significant cost to the budget. I don't necessarily object to laptops, but I think the leases should be lengthened and that they were more of a distraction to learning for a lot of kids (my own included) than an asset in grades 6, 7, 8. Restricting the laptop program to grades 9 - 12 would provide a significant savings to the budget in as early as 2015 when the lease is set to be renewed. Extending the length of the lease might also provide a significant savings to the budget.

Strong Schools, I've personally suggested this to Gunner and members of the BOE beginning several years ago and recently. Would it surprise you to know these suggestions were not well-received?

reese

I have also noticed the flat-lining of Perkins Schools. Laptops alone will not get our schools where we want them to be. I have seen how laptops are used effectively in the classroom where the teacher can monitor students classwork and catch them when they are struggling or making mistakes. The teacher can immediately address the problem with a struggling student. I don't know if Perkins has the technology available in the classroom to do this.
I also know that it takes more than laptops to raise the bar toward 21st Century learning. One thing is for sure though...cutting programs and teachers will not get our children there.

underthebridge

We should all be concerned about this. Despite the infusion of technology and funding, the district is not achieving on the report card which the ODE evaluates schools.

Strong Schools ...

We need to make sure that we are producing children/students that can contribute to our community. This includes programs, teachers, professional development, adequate facilities to support the 21st century skills. We need all of these factors to help our students There is a lot more at stake than just a building. There are many areas in the district that are performing above the state average. I would not say the "entire" district is not achieving.
Observer,
You can call me out as much as you want and I don't understand why you are yelling. I have the right to my opinion and I choose to look towards the future and think long term. I can't think "old school" because our children need more than that. Your accusations make no sense and you are just simply angry. I never said I did not care about the elderly in our community. Do not accuse me as such. There are elderly people in our community who do believe in the education system and they do believe that we have to invest in our future. I am surrounded by them in my neighborhood. We all have different priorities and choices. But, you will get what you pay for. Please do not ever accuse me of slandering one group over the next. I simply choose to support our children and to invest in the future of my family and community! Shame on you for being irresponsible and using this blog for other things, other than having a civil conversation.

themomx6

Strong Schools,
I don't know "Observer" nor do I know you. But I have to say he/she is NO MORE GUILTY of name calling and nasty remarks than you are. I believe the term for that is "the pot calling the kettle black". Take a good look at your own posts before you accuse others of exactly the same thing you are doing.

Reese, I agree fully with your comments, and I will vote for the levy.

Strong Schools ...

Suppprt our schools and community. Vote yes!

Strong Schools ...

themomx6,
Thanks for your thoughts. I will try to be more mindful but I am so passionate about this, like so many others. It is important for supportive people of the children to come out and show their support.
Reese,
Your posts are very insightful and thanks for your input. I am looking forward to reading more of what you have to say.

themomx6

Well, I realize that passions can control what we say at times, and I also know that the written words cannot convey the attitude with which they were written. Something can be construed as "angry, or upset" when actually they are not.

Anyway, on the levy issue. While I understand the hesitation of the people wanting to vote "NO", I also realize that eventually everything needs to be replaced, and I know from experience that the longer you wait to do it, the more expensive it becomes. So, while not crazy about Mr. Gunner and the BOE, I believe the school will/does need to be replaced, and I will vote YES because it will only cost more the longer it's put off.

whocares

Heck, If I lived in Perkins I would vote no to.

donutshopguy

themomx6,

Lets use your logic that " it will cost more later" and apply it to other government financial situations.

The township government should increase taxes another 10% to cover things that " will cost more later".

The state government should increase their taxes another 10% to cover things that " will cost more later".

The federal government should increase their taxes another 100% to cover the federal deficit because it " will cost more later".

Yeah, lets use that logic.

eriemom

And using your logic prices never go up either.

donutshopguy

eriemom,

Glad your back in the discussion. Are you a hoarder? Did you buy a couple cases of pork and beans when they were on sale? Remember, they won't get cheaper. How about a new lawn mower? You will need one some day so did you purchase one yesterday because it's cheaper?

How about a car or a home? They wear out and they won't get cheaper.

Sounds like the federal government. We don't have the money to buy now but we must be prepared so we go further in debt.

eriemom

Then we agree. At some point the community will need to pay for either a new school building or fix the one we have. Inside, outside, general, improvement fund--it does not matter. The money is not there for either.

BooBeeDoo'

Why don't we just get rid of Gunner and get a hometown boy (or girl) with some loyalties to the Perkins residents. He doesn't even live in Perkins and he wants to raise our taxes.I understand that he said he had a sick relative and couldn't make the move.Well,that was four years ago. You would think that he could have made other arrangements by now.He even get a $300 a month stipend for travel (and don't give me the excuse that he goes to Columbus often.) Raising our taxes will have absolutely no affect on Gunner and his family. Why should he care? Also, those board members are just "yes" men with no backbone. I think they should also be voted OUT!

Just Saying

While I'm no Gunner fan - you can thank the School Board for allowing our Superintendant to live out of the district (way out). Remember that when they are up for re-election.

donutshopguy

If you want to make a change at the school board and with the superintendent than vote "no" on all levies until you have a majority of the board that think the way you do. Any option less than that is just treading water.

Then you can reverse the millage switch. You can vote on a specific levy for the school and decide who you want to be superintendent.

Will the schools have to cut back for a short time. Yes. But, as the levy supports say "you have to look at what the long term benefit is to the community".

I guess my long term is longer than theirs.

Wald

Exactly. Please vote NO for our future!