Federal workers brace for furloughs

Government employees cannot escape budget cuts.
Associated Press
Mar 9, 2013

 

First there was a two-year pay freeze. Now furloughs loom, as federal agencies make personnel costs a prime target for across-the-board budget cuts that went into effect last week. The result: anxiety and low morale in a work force often envied for its job security.

"It would certainly put a strain on things," said Jonathan Schweizer, 61, an environmental engineer at the Environmental Protection Agency in Chicago who could be forced to take up to 13 days of unpaid leave this year. "I'd probably have to run up some credit card debt or defer maintenance on my home that I'd otherwise consider important."

Government agencies vary widely in how they are dealing with the "sequester," as the automatic cuts are called, according to labor unions that represent federal workers. Federal workers could face seven days of furloughs at the Housing and Urban Development Department, while Homeland Security personnel might see twice that number.

More than half of the nation's 2.1 million federal workers could be furloughed over the next six months. The federal government is the country's single largest employer, with its employees making up about 1.2 percent of the nation's work force.

"A lot of people think federal employees are fat-cat bureaucrats in Washington, but they don't realize more than 85 percent of these workers live outside of D.C.," said Tim Kauffman, spokesman for the American Federation of Government Employees. "A lot of them are not highly paid folks, like VA nurses and emergency response workers."

AFGE, which represents more than 600,000 federal workers, is trying to keep track of all the different furlough plans as their members face the prospect of lost wages during mandatory time off without pay and growing frustration about getting work done.

It seems the federal workforce is under constant attack these days, particularly from Republican lawmakers who want to shrink government and contend federal employees are overpaid with more generous benefits compared to the private sector. Even President Barack Obama supported the pay freeze, though he has issued an executive order that will give workers a 0.5 percent cost-of-living raise set for April. Still, Congress could take action that prevents the raise from happening.

The latest unemployment numbers offered even more bad news for government workers as federal employment, excluding the U.S. Postal Service, shrank by 4,200 jobs last month. That's the fifth straight month of cuts, which may reflect a trend towards greater belt-tightening.

Schweizer conceded that working for the federal government remains a lot more stable than other industries, but he said the comfort level has changed.

"We've definitely been squeezed financially," he said. "People have left and haven't been replaced. That puts more pressure on us as far as getting the job done and it certainly hurts morale in my office."

Some agencies, including the Justice Department, already have sent out formal furlough notices to workers indicating furloughs of up to 14 days could begin as soon as April. All furloughs are subject to 30-day notices and to bargaining with unions representing government workers.

While the unions can't stop the furloughs, they can try to ease the pain for employees by negotiating different times, allowing employees to swap days, or other changes. Unions are also trying to persuade agencies to make other cuts that don't affect worker pay, such as cutting government contracts with private companies.

The Social Security Administration, for example, says it hopes to avoid furloughs altogether, instead saving money by terminating more than 1,500 temporary and other workers and losing more than 5,000 other positions through attrition.

"In some cases, the agencies can figure out ways to slow down federal contracts instead of taking it out of federal personnel," said Patrick Lester, director of fiscal policy for the Center for Effective Government.

But there are limits on flexibility. "If they are largely personnel-driven, there's no way to avoid personnel-related cuts," Lester said.

Meat and poultry inspectors at the Agriculture Department initially were told they might be furloughed for 11 consecutive days between June and July, possibly leading to a meat supply shortage and higher prices. But Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack backed away from that at a House hearing this week, telling lawmakers that the furloughs would not be consecutive after all.

"Furloughs are going to cause disruption," department spokeswoman Courtney Rowe said Wednesday. "We're looking to do it in ways that cause the minimum impact."

At the EPA, officials are planning up to 13 furlough days, with the first four coming between April and June 1, said John O'Grady, president of AFGE local 704. There also would be mandatory furlough days on May 24, July 5 and Aug. 30 — coming around the Memorial Day, July Fourth and Labor Day holidays — that would shut the agency entirely, he said.

Some of the longest furloughs are expected at the Defense Department, where about 800,000 civilian employees face up to 22 unpaid days off over the next several months. The agency has not yet specified when those will happen, but some agencies may try to put off furloughs for several months in hopes that Congress will come up with a budget fix.

More flexibility could be coming soon. A House measure passed Wednesday that prevents a shutdown of federal agencies on March 27 also would grant the Pentagon greater latitude in implementing its share of short-term spending cuts. Senate Democrats could try to expand that flexibility to other agencies, potentially reducing the number of workers who are furloughed.

Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said he plans to introduce legislation that would allow the Obama administration to exempt from furloughs essential federal employees, such as those who perform food inspections and other urgent functions, so the consequences of the budget cuts would not harm the economy or public safety.

Border Patrol agents at the Homeland Security Department, for example, face up to 14 days of furloughs and a moratorium on regular overtime pay, which could mean a 35 percent decline in wages for the rest of the fiscal year. Union officials warn that could mean trouble for border security, as agents aren't used to stopping work just because their shifts end, especially if they are chasing drug or gun smugglers.

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Associated Press Writer Christopher S. Rugaber contributed to this report.

 

Comments

luvblues2

Scare tactics.

VOTENO

Good. Lay them off.

bored reader

Cry me a river. Take it like a man you liberal pukes!!!! Talk to you messiah. Maybe he can help ya out.

OMG.LOL.WT_

A lot of government "workers" could be furloughed with NO negative effect on anything.

Contango

Tax Freedom Day in OH is Apr. 12. Until then, all hard working Ohioans are govt. employees.

Layoffs anyone?

The Big Dog's back

Off topic again.

Contango

BD writes:

"Off topic again."

Yes you are. Good that you noticed. :)

CAST THE FIRST STONE

when they go back to work they get back pay. only a small portion will loose their job

FlyinHigh

I am formerly from Sandusky and am now a proud employee of the Dept. of Def. at WPAFB. I find it offensive that people are glad that we are getting furloughed. I worked hard to put myself through college and grad school so that I could land a good job. I work extremely hard in my job for the taxpayer to make sure that we all get the defense we need to protect this country. I may not be a soldier in the field, but I make sure the soldier gets what he needs to protect himself/herself properly and also protects YOU. Granted there are some folks that are typical "lazy" government workers. You will get that in any profession. The ultimate goal of the government is to make our government more efficient so that we can keep the same amount of protection by spending less money. While this is difficult to do, I believe we are headed in the right direction. For example, in my career field you need a Masters degree. 20 years ago you only needed a high school diploma (pay scale has not reflected this). By increasing the level of talent, I believe the government is obtaining bright employees that can help us archive our goals. We've taken pay freezes for the last 2 years and we'll take this furlough too. We are taking one for the team because we too want to do what's right. Since our pay is public knowledge, I'll share with you that I make 58k a year (with this pending furlough it will be 20% less) (as previously stated) i have a MBA, and I live in a city that costs more to live in than Sandusky. At the end of the day I bring home just enough to cover my student loans, my rent, and normal bills. Your perception of USG employees may be skewed by the media or general public perception. My point in all of this is that instead of being negative, remember that we are ALL taxpayers and we a ALL citizens of this country. We all want to be protected, and we all want more money in our pockets. Sometimes it's hard to have both.

ladydye_5

Thank you. My family is affected by this also. We already took a pay cut when the State of Ohio terminated my husbands job. Now the federal government wants to cut it some more. We already live paycheck to paycheck. It makes me sick to know that so many want to see us fall even farther behind. These furloughs and cut backs affect more than you know. Many a "little man" will be hurt. The cuts are not happening where they need to. Many of us have nothing left to cut.

mikel

Get another job and let somebody who would appreciate that 58k have yours.

FlyinHigh

Did I complain? No. I am grateful for my job... I also worked hard to get it.

VOTENO

They should start the permanent layoffs with you.

mink77

Get another job?? Did you forget that companies are laying people off?? I've been looking for a job since October 2012!!! I put 40 applications out since December!!! I have not gotten ONE call. When I follow up they tell me they are still not hiring. So, getting another job sometimes sir isn't as easy as you think it is. RUDE

VOTENO

Well, welcome to the real world. What happens when a private company is in debt and broke? Bingo! Layoffs! Just because you work for the Government doesn't make you special. The gravy train is over! Make more cuts! Don't like it? QUIT!

FlyinHigh

When we cut defense spending and it starts to affect you, maybe you'll come up with an intelligent response.

VOTENO

You are sooooooooo intelligent. You work for the government. That says it all.

Contango

@ FlyinHigh:

Unfortunately, the U.S. military industrial complex has controlled the foreign policy and a large part of the spending budget of this country for far too long.

We need a smarter approach because our military adventurism is helping to bankrupt this country.

IMO, we need to go back to the age-old question: Is military action in our own national interest?

For one, we had no business in Libya using our resources to protect European oil interests. Bosnia was another.

ladydye_5

"Gravy train" ? Where is this gravy train you speak of? Heck with the pay cut my husband took, we qualify for FREE LUNCHES for my kids! We do NOT like on a gravy train. I live in the real world. I live it everyday!

VOTENO

There will be more and more cuts. The gravy train is over. Yes, I said the gravy train is over. The U.S. is in debt up to our ears. This is just the beginning. Bring it on. Get the debt under control. Lay off more. Make more cuts

FlyinHigh

Ladydye... In addition to your comment, people don't realize how much this affects them as well. The Register noted that the Federal Government is the single largest employer in the country. This furlough and these cutbacks don't just affect the the workers, it affects the economy. When we cut billions in spending, you can expect the economy to be HEAVILY affected. Car dealerships, real estate, restaurants, and tourism are just some of the areas that will be hit as well. When people can no longer afford certain everyday necessities, unneccesary expenses like a new car, vacations, and even going out to dinner get cutout of their budget. WE will ALL be affected.

Contango

FlyinHigh writes:

"When we cut billions in spending, you can expect the economy to be HEAVILY affected."

The govt. cannot spend one $1 USD that it doesn't take from somewhere else.

The continuation of borrowing and printing trillions of dollars in order to support govt. spending will eventually have disastrous economic consequences for ALL citizens, just not govt. ees.

"The U.S. Debt Crisis Explained In Layman's Terms":

http://seekingalpha.com/article/...

Kottage Kat

Flyinghi,
have already cut those items u mentioned
Do my budget in pencil
I am sorry just cannot afford to waste a tissue crying
Good luck.

Now The Rest of...

The Register might want to check their facts according to the Erie County Economical Development Corporation the Federal Government is not even in the top 12 non manufacturing employers in Erie County.

The Big Dog's back

Single largest employer in the COUNTRY!

Contango

Big Dog writes:

"Single largest employer in the COUNTRY!"

Also true of the Soviet Union. Except there, EVERYONE was a public employee.

They officially had a 0% unemployment rate. How cool is that?

Maybe we should try that in the United Socialist States of Obama?

Strangely, the Castro Bros. are firing their public employees - can't afford 'em.

Now The Rest of...

touche, isn't that sad, largest employer in the COUNTRY and does not produce anything but a rising debt, wonder if they drive a golf cart?

deertracker

Sad that some of you actually are pleased that others are struggling. Some of you constantly complain about government while benefiting from it. FlyingHigh hit the nail on the head. These cuts will have a "trickledown" effect. Don't complain when the trickle reaches you. Remember your glee at others misfortune.

swiss cheese kat

So sad people like you keep praising your beloved leader. You should remember this: People suffering and Obama goes golfing.

The Big Dog's back

People were dying and bush went golfing. What's your point?

Erie County Resident

Poochie is trying to outdo himself by repeating BHO ... It's Bush's fault it's Bush's fault ...
Time to flip over the record poochie. It is now Obama's fault it's Obama's fault.

The Big Dog's back

I agree. It's Obama's "fault" everything is getting better.

KnuckleDragger

People are still dying in Afghanistan while BHO take $4million vacations, what's your point mangy mutt?

Now The Rest of...

More people are still dying, continued high unemployment in spite of obozo's promises, highest sustained gas prices, and a president that has played more golf that all recent presidents in history all while his wife fly her entourage around on the goverment dime.

FlyinHigh

Contago, if you could, please provide a link that no one has to "sign-up" for to access. Furthermore, of what little was provided in your article, gave an example of the US as a stock market and explained what GDP is. We know that a portion of the US budget is from tax dollars and from "borrowing". When I refer to the economy as being heavily affected, I am referring to the smaller paychecks USG workers will be bringing home. We will spend less, and it will affect all industries previously described. Here is an article from a REPUTABLE company, the New York Times... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/0... .... Which describes how one state, California, will be affected in areas such as real estate, and higher education. This is not an opinion, this is a fact.

Contango

@ FlyinHigh:

Sorry about that. I read many business websites and blogs and this one is a good one.

Google: "U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio" and find your own.

In DC a "cut" means a slowdown in spending.

So instead of the Feds spending $46T over the next 10 yrs., they'll spend $44.8T.

If a reduction of $85B in annual federal spending represents the end of the U.S., then ALL citizens are in trouble, not just public ees.

Tom Coburn (R-OK) sent a "letter to OMB highlighting more than 1,362 duplicative programs accounting for at least $364.5 billion in federal spending every year as identified by the Government Accountability Office."

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/pub...

There are plenty of "smart" "cuts" to make.

FlyinHigh

X

FlyinHigh

I agree with you on that. At the end of the day I want what is best for our country.... Smart cuts, not just cuts ate what we should all want. Thanks for the response.

Now The Rest of...

If Obama had cut the waste of space bureaucrats in Washington that are political appointees of his he wouldn't had to reduce the real workers. It was administration who had the choice of who was cut within each department, but of course his gloom and doom would not have worked on his minions. Remember these alleged cuts were on INCREASED spending for the coming fiscal year, not a real reduction on spending. Its like your boss telling to that you will receive a $2000 raise next year and later changing it to only a $1000, did you really lose anything in the present year, you still get an increase next year only smaller.

The Big Dog's back

Cut all subsidies to the rich!

Contango

BD writes:

"Cut all subsidies to the rich!"

Good idea.

Since consumer spending equates to about 70% of GDP and the rich make up about 30% of consumer spending. It'll be great to see the U.S. economy tank by 1% or so by increasing their taxes.

The dumb Democrats forgot their lesson with the ill advised Luxury Tax which caused the firing of thousands of workers and the closing of hundreds of businesses.

http://www.csmonitor.com/1993/01...

KnuckleDragger

Let's not forget the devestation they once caused to the shipbuilding industry with the same tax.

swiss cheese kat

obamas golf weekend at the yacht club with Tiger Woods cost taxpayers over a million dollars—enough money to save 341 federal workers from furlough. Your beloved leader is an idiot.

The Big Dog's back

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

VOTENO

Lay off more of these government workers!

FlyinHigh

Instead of adding this comment, twice, could you come up with an intelligent response?

VOTENO

Lay off more!

ladydye_5

I hope you have a good paying job with LOTS of taxes coming out.....We will be living on government welfare you will be providing. Thanks for wishing us to crash and burn....never mind my husband is also a VETERAN that is getting the shaft. Glad our family made the sacrifices we did, only to get burned in the end. Sleep well VOTENO, while everyone else fails.

VOTENO

I'm also a Veteran. A combat veteran to be exact. I love my country and unless we get this debt under control we are all going to crash and burn. The government is out of control and needs to reign itself in. Will good people lose their jobs? Yes. The same thing happens in the private sector. Just because you are a veteran doesn't mean you are guaranteed a job. I've had a job since the day I got out. Did I register at the VA? Yes. Have I used it? No. I have my own insurance paid for by my employer. Your husbands a veteran. Big deal. Lot's of us are veterans.

ladydye_5

Thanks for the awesome pep talk....thanks for looking out for fellow brother. I understand the government debt needs to be taken care of....cutting vital services at a military base should NOT be on the list. Cut the senators pay, cut the presidents pay, QUIT paying for OTHER countries armies, quit feeding other countries hungry (we have our own here in America) Sleep well knowing that military bases and everything that supports them is taking a cut. I am now done with my tirade and you can say what you want.

KnuckleDragger

If you think your husband is getting the shaft, you should take a look at what they are doing to military retirees and their families in regards to their healthcare. As it stands, in Oct even welfare recipients will have better healthcare plans than retired military.

Minuteman

"Government employees cannot escape budget cuts."

Not so, I know where to find 435 government employees exempt from layoffs or furloughs. They also found a way to get out of Obamacare. We all need to hop on that wagon.

OMG.LOL.WT_

“Don’t tax you, don’t tax me, tax that man behind the tree.”

BW1's picture
BW1

It's interesting how the sequester excludes entitlement payments. So, people who actually WORK to EARN money from the government (set aside for a moment the question of whether what they do has value) get screwed, but we dare not interrupt payments to those who sit on their behinds and collect a check. Sort of like telling the electric company or your doctor you can't pay your bill because you gave too much money to a panhandler on the street corner.

swiss cheese kat

You Liberals keep acting like sheep and chug down the Obama-worship kool-aid from ALL the mainstream media outlets. It gives us great laughter.

Erie County Resident

The USA needs to do what is right.
First terminate Obama with his administration machine and everyone in Congress.
Second stop all foreign aid.
Then Domestic programs could be restored fully with no fuss.

Final step replace everyone in DC with non-politicians to represent the PEOPLE instead of their party as well as uphold the Constitution as written.

TOPGUN01

SOUDS GREAT!ARE YOU FROM MARS?OR THE MOON?

OMG.LOL.WT_

A good place for cuts would be TSA that allows stabs of 3 inches or hits with a bat if no longer than 24 inches.
Next, the FCC. They can't (or won't) stop harassment phone calls.

SamAdams

It's unfortunate that anybody is losing jobs over this, especially when there's no real reason for it. Oh, yeah, government is bloated, and there are without doubt extraneous personnel. But that has nothing to do with the so-called sequester. All that the sequester is is a cut in INCREASES. There's still an increase, it's just not as large as had been requested/desired. So why all the furloughs?

The simple answer: The administration (and this is reportedly on record with the Department of Agriculture and National Parks personnel) wants to ensure the sequester hurts ordinary Americans as much as possible and that Republicans get blamed for it.

Am I all that sorry that gung ho Obama supporters and big government fans are being hurt? Nope. But that's as a group. Every individual being furloughed has bills. They've got families and mortgages. It's hard not to feel sympathy on THAT level!

Here's a thought: There was a headline story just a week ago that government agencies are going to talk about doing fewer seminars and destination training than they used to do to save money. There's been discussion of taking away the private jets for certain government officials. THAT'S where cuts can and should be made: With money that shouldn't have been spent in the FIRST dam*ed place!

Obama doesn't need to spend millions to fly to Florida to golf with Tiger Woods, either, and the Obama kiddies don't have to head to Aspen to ski. But no, the President would rather hurt defense readiness and cause hardship to the middle class families he claims to fight for instead. And it's ALL politics, boys and girls. ALL of it. (Heard yesterday that the Border Patrol is also being hard hit with personnel reductions, though I can't see that'll make much difference since the feds typically can't be bothered to control the borders anyway...)

Meanwhile, Senator Rand Paul RETURNED money to the federal government. Every Senator is given a certain budget to spend on his office. Paul returned about 25%. 25%!!! Too bad sequestration didn't start where it NEEDED to, and that's in the very heart of D.C.

Darwin's choice

Taxpayers spent 1.4 billion on obama last year....http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/2...

Kimo

Sam Walton business model at work.

Export you jobs.

Import your goods.

More trickle down breeds the need for more trickle down.......
.

Second Opinion

Workers at the Detroit and Windsor bridge make $123,000 right out of college, and I'm suppose to shed tears over this news?

Why did Obama hire 243,000 people last month for possitions in the Federal Govt and then take away from us essential services? Because he's like the school systems, punish the terrible taxpayers that say ENOUGH.

Free Man

Time to close NASA Plumbrook for good !!!

TOPGUN01

I AGREE!WHAT GOOD IS IT ANYWAY!CLOSE NASA!TURN IT IN TO A PARK!GAME HUNTING!

TOPGUN01

GLAD TO SEE THESE CUTS!THEY ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A JOB AT ALL?WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD!

Gardenman

I remember quite well how people here in Erie County spoke of those who worked at New Departure and the "gravy train" they had. Then it was Ford out on 101 and all the high wages they got. All this made American cars too expensive and those Toyota's, Honda's etc sure would show them. Course those complaining never worked at thise places but they sure wanted too. They wanted the 3 hired for the same job and why 1/2 the shifts at GM, Ford, etc were sitting around the plant sleeping or so they thought.

Those who complained failed to look beyond the end of their nose for had they many might have seen the plaques at Firelands Hospital indicating major gifts from those companies for life saving facilities. They failed to see past the end of their nose or they would have seen major gifts given by individuals who worked at these plants to hospitals, YMCA, and countless community organizaions. '

NO all they wanted to hear was folks have it easy out there and I don't and darn it I want it too. The proverial grass is always greener on the other side of the street.

So now here comes those same people but its not Ford, GM etc they are running down its the Federal Government employees and if they can they will deface state and county and city employees. If a school asks for more money they they need to cut dead wood RIGHT??? why it must be....if they need more money they must not be spending what they have correctly. Oh have we heard the complaints and moans ALWAYS FROM THOSE NOT EMPLOYED BY ERIE COUNTY mind you how the county wastes money. Or it Sandusky city government.

NO the constant complainers are not gone they have just switched to the government branches. Boils down to I don't have what you have and I WANT IT.

I honestly have to wonder if after they die and they go to their reward they will be complaining to God they are not getting their cut of things in paradise.....I am sure they will for it's what they do best......complain and run others down.

VOTENO

And where are Ford and GM at now??? That's right! Gone! KBI is laying off and winding down and Ford sold out and the new company came in and got rid of all the Ford employees. Great examples you used there!!! History repeats itself. Unless we lay off and make cuts the U.S. will end up like the local Ford and GM plants. Thank you for sharing.

arnmcrmn

While layoffs are never a good thing, where were the government peoples support for all the other companies that have had to downsize since Obie took over? Oh thats right, its ok to cut, cut, cut...as long as its not my job. I know not all of you hold this saying true, but many do.

All Obie and MEEEchelle have to do is stay at home, act like they really know what it is like to feel financial pain (even though they never will), stop vacationing all over this planet and stop his pompous celebrity touring. This alone will save 1000's of federal jobs.

starryeyes83

New Cars , vacations, and going out to eat have always been unneccesary expenses....unfortunately, people over the years, have regarded those things as "must haves" like high dollar shoes, cell phones and other things.

starryeyes83

Let's not forget all the hundreds of Billions of dollars we shell out EVERY year for ILLEGALS....but some of you are okay with that OR have been in the past.

So is it a different answer , now?

VOTENO

How about all the foreign cars you see teachers and other government workers driving? You want our support? I don't think so! Lay them all off and rehire those that want to work.

Contango

Also, public employee pension plans invest billions of dollars in foreign cos. and foreign debt.

See the largest public employee pension plan, CA's Calpers investment returns:

"The Euro Stoxx 50 Index, a European index fund, gained 10.3 percent; the Hang Seng Index, a Chinese index fund, gained 20 percent, and the FTSE 100 Index, a United Kingdom index fund, gained 3.5 percent."

http://www.ocregister.com/articl...

They invest with those "job killing" private equity firms as well.

KURTje

Gardenman so true! Many complaining never knew lay-off. Many came here (years ago) for better jobs & now itch. They moan about lack of THEIR services too. Most would not listen as decent jobs went away years ago. Now/soon they will get their just deserts. And we wonder why we are in trouble........

Gardenman

VoteNO I was unaware that Ford or GM was out of business in the US.......or you mean just locally......sounds like both GM and Ford had viable business here in Erie County enough so that they were sellable to other companies. Don't see a problem in that at all.

If you desire cuts and layoffs in government and I am not against that BUT you nor I then have a foot to stand on when services drop. This past week I was on a flight from Los Angeles to Cleveland. Due to snow in Chicago I got routed thru Dallas. Result flight from Dallas to Cleveland was missed. The close DFW airport now at 11:30 PM ......one of the largest airports in the world. That was a new change as TSA cut all personnel after 11:30 PM. I can only tell you as passengers were forced out into the night cold to wait 5 hours Republican and Bohener etc were as popular as a dentist doing a root canal.

So fine to cut and layoff BUT also be fine with the negative results of that as well.

VOTENO

GM dumped NDH to Delphi which in turn sold it to KBI. KBI can't survive under the old GM mentality. Layoffs started last week at KBI. GM still owes money to the Government. It's over.

Contango

TSA? Typical scare mongering tactics to shake down citizens for revenue increases.

If a city wants to raise revenue, they threaten to lay off firemen or cops.

By executive order, Pres. BHO could have made smart "cuts" in the budget elsewhere. But instead, he chose to continue his political games.

The GAO found hundreds of billions spent on duplicate federal programs, why not start there?

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/pub...

The Big Dog's back

Why doesn't coburn talked to boehner? The House controls the purse strings. More propoganda as usual pooh.

Contango

Since the idea for the sequester "cuts" came outa the WH, Pres. Obama must approve of them huh? So why is he whining, mutt?

The Big Dog's back

Playin' dodgeball again huh pooh.

Contango

Other than digging, scratching and sniffing do canines actually think?

So Congress gave Pres. BHO what he asked for, but he "really" didn't want it?

Who's playing games?

eriemom

Instead of working with Dems, House repubs passed a bill to hold military manufactures harmless, so that the cuts do not affect that spending. I got a call from a young military man today. He said that his education money has a hold on it.

So, who's playing games? I'm sure the idea was to force the two sides together to a compromise.

Contango

@ eriemom:

Got proof or it is just anecdotal nonsense?

So where's Pres. BHO's list of "cuts" or is it just more political hot air?

If $85B causes the end of the world, this country is in SERIOUS fiscal trouble.

What happened to "We can't wait"?

Thought that Mr. Obama was all about goin' around Congress for the "good of the people," but on this point, he's powerless?

You've got a master political game player here and refuse to see it.

Contango

"MoS Diary: Adele lands her biggest ever gig at Michelle Obama's 50th birthday party":

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvsho...

Hopefully, the First Lady will have say something encouraging to say at her big birthday bash for all those furloughed fed ees. in their distress over the sequester "cuts."

Let them eat cake?

The Big Dog's back

Jealous again ehh.

Contango

"I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less..."

- Sen. BHO, Aug. 28, 2008

How's all that hard work comin'?

http://promises.nationaljournal....

Darwin's choice

For Big Dog.......obama = failure !

whocares

The private sector has taken enough hits. The economy becomes an issue when the Government sector starts getting hurt. Theres a lot of people in the private sector that have gone to school worked hard and watched their dreams disappear. Why should we pay more taxes and have less.

Free Man

!CLOSE NASA!TURN IT IN TO A PARK!GAME HUNTING!

goofus

People Obozo is hiring thousands of workers and giving 1.5 million to study why lesbians are fat LOL
http://pjmedia.com/blog/governme...
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/...