Perkins schools to cut teachers, staff

The Perkins school board is set to trim at least $12 million from its five-year budget in two rounds of staff cuts and programming reductions.
Alissa Widman Neese
Feb 20, 2013

 

The first round, unveiled Monday, will be permanent.

The second round can be reversed, but only if voters approve a May emergency operating levy, superintendent Jim Gunner said.

To watch videos from the Monday meeting, click HERE and HERE.

For more on the plans, pick up a copy of Wednesday's Register. See the proposed cuts below.

Perkins Schools positions cut on March 13, regardless of levies in May     
Furry Elementary School: $250,000
•Two teachers
•One of three Little Pirates units
•Paraprofessionals for Little Pirates

Meadowlawn Elementary School: $150,000
•One-and-a-half teachers
•Reduction in office aid hours
Briar Middle School: $600,000
•Eight-and-a-half teachers (one in 2014, one in 2015)

Perkins High School: $550,000 to $600,000
•Five teachers
•One secretary
•Several paraprofessionals
•Possible reductions in business, family consumer science, physical education and health departments
District Office: $1 million
•One communications director in 2015
•One students services software
•One-and-a-half secretaries
•One-half school psychologist
•Busing for junior high and high school students living within a mile of campus in 2015

Other areas for possible cuts if May levies fail (minimum $600,000 in cuts needed for 2013-14 school year)
•All Little Pirates units
•Switch from full-day to half-day kindergarten
•Elementary gifted program
•Elementary and middle school guidance counselors
•Elementary and middle school art, physical education and music teachers
•All middle school foreign language programs, teaming, athletics and extracurriculars
•All high school non-essential staff members, athletics, busing and extracurriculars
•High school athletic director and athletic secretary
•High school French and Mandarin Chinese classes

Want to go?
What: Special Perkins school board meeting to discuss district cuts
When: 7:30 p.m. March 6
Where: Perkins High School, Room 805
 

Comments

senioritis

So, now French has NOTHING to do with being a productive citizen? It's called GLOBAL UNDERSTANDING. French is still the 2nd most spoken language in the world. We are one of the FEW districts in the area to OFFER a choice of languages: a rare feat in today's school environment.
As for our superintendent using funds for the stadium, you need to go back and read other comments, which will demonstrate to you that the ONLY PORTION of school monies used for the stadium was the dollar amount required to repair the old stadium. All other funds were raised by athletic or band boosters or donated by community members and businesses alike.

bobshumway92

French Fries

senioritis

bobshumway92:

Just a little global understanding--"french fries" originated in BELGIUM, not FRANCE.
A little more global understanding for all-- Doctors without Borders (begun by French medical community), fiber optics, thermal technology (invented in France), AIDS virus discovery and first research into its cure---all begun in France.
France is one of the top 5 economies in the world. It is one of 4-5 official languages in the UN. It is the official political language of the political body of the EU.
This is just scratching the surface.

bobshumway92

It's the fifth largest economy. The French are worthless.

bobshumway92

The UN. Now that's impressive.

bobshumway92

Try knowing what you are talking about before commenting. French is the 11th most spoken language in the world. Chinese being first, Spanish being second, and English being third. Get a clue.

treemotan

They're not wrong. You're analyzing it only by the total amount of people that speak it. That does not account for how widespread a language is. French is the primary language of more countries in the world than any other language. So, while it may be in 11th place population-wise, it's much more widely spoken and, in fact, many higher-tier jobs in business or management require fluency in French for that exact reason. In addition, statistics have shown that students that studied French did much better in English classes and on the English portions of state testing, due to the fact that a very large portion of English borrows from French.

bobshumway92

Pretty sad day when Americans look up to the French. Anyhow, back to the two levies that are going to fail...

themomx6

Why don't the people of Perkins do something that would REALLY help the school system? What's that you ask?

GET RID OF GUNNER!!

themomx6

Why don't the people of Perkins do something that would REALLY help the school system? What's that you ask?

GET RID OF GUNNER!!

Trustafarian

How do we go about doing that? Are you willing to lead the charge? If you're serious, and I have no doubt you are, set the wheels in motion.

The New World Czar

Here's a challenge to all PEA/unionized staff: disavow yourselves from the brainwashing you are getting from the OEA (which in turn get passed on to students, family, and friends), take a voluntary cut in your pension and early retirement packages like us outside of la-la-land and you might sway a few more negative votes. Too bad your efforts in and out of the classroom get overshadowed by the power-hungry bunch in Columbus...and quit going by the belief that they (OEA) have the best interest of the students in mind.

WFO

HOW CAN GUNNER BE EXPECTED TO RUN ANYTHING, WHEN HE DOESNT APPEAR TO UNDERSTAND BASIC ENGLISH.... WE SAID "NO". NOW I HAVE TO TAKE MY TIME TO SAY NO AGAIN! HELL, MY DOG UNDERSTANDS NO

Common Sense

The real tragedy is that not only the students will lose, but so will our entire community.
It is time that many of you realize that people move to Perkins (and OPEN ENROLL)because of the quality of our schools. Eliminating any programs will only create a domino effect. Why move to Perkins? Why stay in Perkins if the education is the same as anywhere else? We will soon resemble Sandusky with many abandoned homes and metro rentals. Crime will rise as students are no longer spending time working on music, sports, academics. Be careful what you wish for as it may come true.
In addition, it would be helpful for many of us to become better educated as to why the schools are asking for levies. In the past thirteeen years, Perkins voters have not passed a levy. No additional monies have come in for repairs and in fact, money has left the budget due to tax laws enacted by the state. Yet, we still want our children to get the best education.
For you naysayers, those of us voting for the levy get it. You really don't give a damn about your schools or your community. It makes me wonder if you feel that same way about your home.

bobshumway92

Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

Common Sense

Mature response.

PutKidsFirst

Bobshumway has had MANY mature responses to people who are trying to be positive about this situation and who are trying to help others see why this levy is needed. I completely agree with you. People don't seem to realize (or care?) that even though they might not care about the students or the school district, this levy failing will have a negative affect on them, too! With a poor school system comes lower home values, and as you said - it becomes a domino effect. We need more positive comments about this levy! Thanks for your support!

whocares

Maybe its time for a county school system? It would save everybody money.

bobshumway92

As long as they don't teach French I'm all for it

lifetimeresident

I'll tell you what. Back in the 80's when I worked, if you brought me and the other 1000 employees in together and gave us 2 options. First, 30 people getting layed off, second, or "EVERYONE" takes a 5% pay cut. We took the cut. Cant make car and home payments from the unemployment line. We werent union though.

VoteYES

How do you know they have or haven't? Nothing has been done yet!!!

whocares

Maybe Perkins and Sandusky should become one. They already share a zip code.

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BW1

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Zip codes have no relationship to anything regarding schools or local government.

Gyro Cart Guy

Reunite the 44870!!!! Perdusky Blue Pirates forever!!!!

Truth or Fiction

Whocares raises an interestng proposition. Erie County has a population of 72,000, the population of a medium sized City in Ohio. That City would have one High School. So why don't we make Perkins HS the middle school and Sandusky HS the high school. That will solve Margaretta and Edison's levy problems because you can just bus them in and since Huron is the second smallest HS in Erie County, we could bus them in for good measure.

Now all the nay sayers votes will be deluted. Edison and Margaretta won't have a large enough voting block to influence anything but will be held ransom to the higher populations and voting blocks in Sandusky and Perkins. Huron won't have to worry about Board problems because the School Board would probably be picked from the larger voting block areas.

Unfortunately, consolidation of school districts must be voted on by the districts involved. Doesn't look like it stands a chance.

Kasey

When you're in high school, it's easy to say, "I'm involved in all these programs, my school building is awful, please vote yes on the levy!" How do I know? I was one of those kids not too long ago. Involved in every musical, theatrical, and about half the sports offered in the school. It's all about you, you, you.
Now that I am on the other side, employed full-time as a teacher, I can agree with many of the comments here. "lowbrass", I understand your plight. However, you're young and do not understand property taxes. Argue all you want, but the whiny and selfish comments will drive your point adversely.
It strikes me as odd that a new building is being conjured. Where is the money for it? Also, isn't the junior high in Sandusky much older than PHS, yet still standing and operating just fine? I am not favoring one school over the other - I just think Perkins may not keep up with normal maintenance, and therefore the building is in "bad shape". I honestly don't buy into this "bad shape" thing either - many of the violations were not structural, and obviously were easily fixed. I can also recall being in that building not too long ago on a normal basis when I was a student.
Face it, most taxpayers have their minds made up regarding the levy. Emotional student pleas or property tax statistics will not change one's vote.
One last note: teachers are constantly getting added and cut from schools. That's the nature of the job. Nobody marvels when schools add new programs and new teachers, but they are crass and point fingers when budgeting calls for position cuts. That's how it goes - I know my job is never promised to me, so I make the best of it.

Kasey

As a side note: I'm not trying to put down this "lowbrass" character. I just understand how important extracurriculars are when you're a student, but then I see how unimportant they really are when it comes to college and life after that. You might stick with a couple of them, like playing a college sport or joining a musical group, but very few college kids are members of band, choir, orchestra, tennis team, soccer team, debate, fall play, etc. etc. While it IS "your world" in high school, after that, it's just good memories. I don't blame Perkins taxpayers for not wanting to pay for students' extracurriculars.
We all have a right to our opinions, but sometimes when we are just inexperienced, we look foolish arguing.

Common Sense

I would agree with your argument, but please consider three ideas. First, high school is a time for all children to explore interests to help determine their choice of careers. A wider selection allows students to look at ideas that will not occur if programs are eliminated (including, but not limited to world languages which is really a study of the culture, economy, population, etc.). Second idea: students are building a college resume. Colleges look for well-rounded students who are not only academically sound, but show a variety of interests and are community-minded (i.e. volunteers). Finally, Perkins students DO pay for not only textbook fees, but for ALL extra-curricular selections, including sports, band, drama (including painting a set for theater productions). This is not the world many of us may have grown up in, but it is the world now.

Truth or Fiction

The argument is well framed. Those who oppose taxes, ANY TAXES and those who support the community through education. The problem is that fact gets mixed with fiction such as a recent post that Sandusky City Schools house our middle school at Adams. Not true. The junior high is now housed in the high school on Hayes Avenue.

It is unfortunate that our State has placed children at the center of controversy by failing to develop a viable funding system for education. One that provides equal funding and makes allowance for increases in cost. The politicians of our neighbor Indiana must just be smarter than our politicians in Ohio.

UgtaBkdnMe

This is the first year for the middle school to be housed at SHS. The Adams building was used through the end of last year for junior high and continues to be used for the alternative school. The only reason the junior high was moved was due to the decrease in the district's enrollment and nothing to due with the structural condition. The point is valid. Adams is over 150 years old and in great shape!

donutshopguy

Common,

Didn't you for see a problem with the school funding part of the new athletic complex prior to building a new school. If it was built with all donations there would be no issue now.

If the school board would have put the building of the school up to a vote by the general public there would be no issue now.

If money was not taken from operating expenses for the new building the new operating levy proposed would be smaller and might obtain approved.

The gentlemen in charge have made some serious miscalculations of the general public or they don't care about the public's value of what's needed. That part scares me as an American citizen.

Common Sense

No, I don't see a problem with the school funding a part of the new athletic complex prior to building a new school. The portion of the new athletic complex that was funded by the school board was the dollar amount that the Perkins community would have spent to make it safe. The rest of the mone was raised by both Booster clubs and through donations. This athletic complex now makes Perkins eleigible to host larger sporting events for the state (both in football and track). The additional revenue will be a welcome asset.
Back in 2010, there was a financing deal available to Perkins which allowed us to borrow money without interest. The vote went down to defeat for a variety of reasons (anxiety and "the fountain" was the reason some voters gave).
Money was taken from the operating expenses for the new building because of the need. I know that many of you are all for a quick fix to the building, but let me guess...if yoiur car breaks down over and over, you'll get a new one. There may even be items in your home that have not been remodeled or updated because there is always something else that needs the $$ more. Unlike education, you're not relying on me to pass a levy while the state government decides what amount of state funding you will receive.
As for miscalculations of the general public, my question is just how long and just how much are you willing to risk if yor community's schools no longer have the curriculum appeal to bring in additional tax dollars through growth, both industrial and residential? That should be your fear.

donutshopguy

Common,

First, I appreciate your discussion on the issues. But you didn't answer my questions.

You didn't see a possible conflict with voters when at least a million dollars was spent for an athletic facility with a school in direr straights. It was as plain as day to me. By the way, the money was used for a retaining pond and land preparation for the upcoming academy not safety.

Do you believe the new academy should be built without a public vote?

You don't like the state government making decisions about funding without your input. That's exactly what is happening here with the new school. The BOE and superintendent have decided to build a school without a public vote. Why are you upset with the state but not with the your local officials? I personally don't want the state or local officials making decisions with my money without my vote.

I'm willing to let my community decide the fate of our schools with vote. The majority wins and I will abide. My fear is local bureaucrats feel they can tax the community without a vote. The state and federal governments already use this unAmerican process and now local officials believe they know more the citizens. God help us.

lor70

I am an outsider, but it seems to me(from things I've read) that Gunner and the BOE are more concerned with the "look" than they are the students! It is sad because it will be the students who suffer! But this is the day in age we live in...we want what we want and we want it now! If the school buildings are this bad now...they were bad back when the fancy stadium was built. These business' that donated for the stadium, would they have donated for a safer school? Why wasn't that put on the table? We can't always get what we want! Sometimes you have to give a little! But I do think that a safer school should've been the top priority over the stadium! Just my opinion.

dwa9995294

I was wondering, does Mr. Gunner live in Perkins?

richrs

No Gunner lives (if I remember correctly) somewhere up around the Toledo area. So he could care less how high our taxes go. I don't understand why he is not told to live in the district or look for work in another area.

donutshopguy

Truth,

Where do I fit in? I'm not against all taxes or for all taxes. I support education but not blindly. I support public participation through vote on large expenditure like a $50 million dollar school.

Natti Light

Since I'm just a greedy union thug(and not employed at Perkins), perhaps you could answer a few questions:

1. Since when did it become a crime to have a good salary and benefits? Just because you chose a career path that doesn't offer those things, doesn't mean I should have to pay for it with my salary and benefits. If you want us all on equal footing, I have another idea you might like...socialism. That's not how America works though.....but it's interesting that the same people asking teachers to take cuts so we can share the pain are the same ones who turn around and call Obama a socialist.

2. Why is it now my responsibility to pay for the education of your students? Don't like the way they are run? Then send them to private schools. Or home school them. Or, pay your taxes and contribute to society like someone did for you.

3. Go ahead. Keep comparing our education system to China. Give schools in America the right to kick out the "dumb" kids, separate those who can and can't, and beat kids senseless when they don't learn. Then you can compare us to China.

4. Many of you state that you can't afford one more cent in taxes. Fair enough. But I also bet that most of you are using high speed internet through Buckeye Cable or Time Warner at home...that's $40-50 bucks a month so you can come on here and bash educators. Hope that investment is paying off.

5. NO ONE was complaining about teacher salaries when the markets were roaring and day traders and CEO's were raking it in hand over fist. The economy tanks, and suddenly, we are overpaid thugs. Life is a gamble....the economy will rebound and we will be right back to square one. If you honestly think that teachers have it made, I'm offering a serious invitation. Contact me and I will let you come and shadow me for 4 weeks on the job. Everything I do, you will do right with me. Then, at the end of the month, we'll have an intelligent conversation about what it is a teacher does. If you're not willing to do that, then shut your mouth until you know what you are actually talking about. Listening to Rush Limbaugh 2 hours a day does not make you intelligent or worth listening to.

turlington

Amen. I couldn't agree with you more.

1. I too must have been absent on the day when people came to school and put a gun to my head to make me choose a career path.

2. Too many people forget the fact that people helped us along the way and paid appropriate taxes to help the community flourish. The term "community" is a joke in modern American society. There's no such thing.

3. People only use the communist angle on China when it benefits their argument. When we compare schools, it is all apples to apples. It is one of the most ignorant arguments that can be made.

4. We live in a society of instant gratification. Many people are too short-sighted to see the benefits of building a strong community.

5. Keep up the good work. There are reasonable people out there who appreciate the time you put in with our kids and value the impact you have on them daily. Thank you. I will always do my part to help make my community strong.

VoteYES

Great comments! People are the first to bash teachers! Teaching is not a 8/3 job! Teachers arrive early and work late, for who? The students and communities! Think of the people who have made a difference in kids lives! As stated follow a teacher for a week!! See with what they deal with! They are a teacher, nurse, guidance counselor, etc! I am not saying other jobs aren't like this, but come on!

PutKidsFirst

Agreed... I wonder if all of these negative commenters can honestly say that they have never had an extracurricular activity or an educator that has made a lasting, positive impression on their lives. Now that they're done with school, they don't seem to care that these students may not get the same opportunities as they did (and obviously take for granted).

Vote yes!!

goodtime1212

Dont forget we saw how much they cared when they went out on strike a few years ago. Stood in the picket line and cursed some pretty nasty adult words to the replacement teachers only a few feet from grade schoolers, or yeled incouraging words to the high school kids to climb out the windows during the school day to join them on the line. Yep, they sure do care alot as long as they get there way.

Truth or Fiction

Donut-
I am glad that you pay your taxes. What is your solution to the educational financing problem? How would you fund education in Ohio? Who do you see need to bare the responsibility of educating the youth of our community?

donutshopguy

Truth,

It's doesn't matter if the money comes from the federal, state or local government...it's still my money. Correct?

I personally believe the responsibility should be local. So how about we don't pay some of our federal and state taxes and keep the money local to fund schools. I believe each community should decide how much money they wish to fund education. I don't believe in redistribution of wealth. Perkins money goes to Perkins kids. Sandusky money goes to Sandusky kids. It's not my responsibility to fund education for the country. I will take care of my community.

Now with that said, I believe it's the community's decision if they want to fund a new school. If the community doesn't believe it is necessary than no school is built. I believe the local bureaucrats have overstepped their responsibility and that is a scary situation. I am totally against a government entity (school) taking away my right to vote and decide what is best for my community.

Are you for or against government taking away personal responsibility?

underthebridge

Undoubtedly, school financing is an issue. But priorities are also an issue. When is the BOE going to look at cost for the laptops? I'm not against technology, but I question if the laptops are producing the results for the money. Other districts in the area perform better on the Ohio Department of Education District Report Card and they do not spend this amount of money on laptops. In Perkins, every 3 years, the lease for the laptops is renewed at a cost of over $2 million dollars. $2 million when they were first leased in 2009 and then last year another $2.7 million to replace them. These are funds from capital improvements; funds that could have been used for maintenance. I am not saying that they should eliminate them completely, but perhaps the program should be for the 9 - 12 grades and not 6 - 12 grades. Perhaps the length of the lease should be examined. I don't know of corporations that exchange their computers this frequently. Everything should be eligible for evaluation: even the laptop program.

VoteYES

From what I understand all this is being looked into! Like not making laptop exchanges every three years, but longer!

underthebridge

It should be, but I will believe it when I see it. The laptop program is Gunner's baby. It has not produced results for the HUGE expenditure of funds. Lease length should be examined, as well as limiting the program to the high school students.

VoteYES

It is all areas are being looked at! I for one and in favor of technology it prepares students for the real world!

underthebridge

It may. It may not. Technology is promoted as a tool for student engagement in education. The problem is that engagement does not necessarily equal achievement. The educational research is very mixed on this. In Perkins, the results of this program are questionable especially when you compare other area school districts that do not have the 1 to 1 laptop program with Perkins. Today's generation of students have grown up with technology. They are immersed in technology already. I'm not sure that it is a wise expenditure of funds for the schools to provide every student with a laptop with the idea that if we don't -- they won't be exposed to technology. Especially, if it doesn't enhance the achievement scores.

piratesfirst

I can provide information on the value of the laptops from my personal experience. This can't serve as a blanket statement for every single classroom, but I have personally witnessed a great impact on my own students in middle school.

I have been an educator for over a decade. The laptops have given highly-motivated students access to supplemental programs in my classroom that have increased performance over the past four years. Programs, such as Study Island, offer students extra exposure to state standards and content. As we work our way through the curriculum as a group, students are able to use the software as a supplement to practice and move through the entire curriculum at their own pace as well. They are able to use this extra practice to stay sharp on skill-based exercises. As an educator, I also have access to statistical data that can be used to find student weakenesses. I can target standards, topics, and even types of questions that cause my students to struggle. Using this data, I can target my instruction in a more productive way.

Since the inclusion of the laptops, I have had nearly 400 students. Only two have not scored above proficient on the achievement test in this time, and nearly 70% have scored in the accelerated/advanced range. Also, when looking at the data, I realized that the two "below-proficient" students did not utilize the supplemental programs at an appropriate level. It must be emphasized that state test scores are only one indication of success for student achievement. The laptops have also opened up great opportunites for research and the sharing of ideas in my classroom.

I am not saying that the laptops are the only reason for this success, but I must emphasize that they were a very important piece of the puzzle. There is no question that they have been beneficial for students from my personal experience.

hometownboy

Underthebridge,

What do you mean by results? You mean student results, correct?

underthebridge

Yes. The ODE evaluates each school district based largely on their scores on the OAA. Since Gunner has been here, the results have not been above effective. Other districts in the area have had Excellent and Excellent with Distinction and those districts do not have a laptop program. I do not believe the expenditure of funds is producing results.

underthebridge

Thanks for the input and for your work with the students. I am not against them completely, but I do wonder about having them at the middle school level and about the length of the lease. We were also told that the laptops could be purchased by graduating seniors. Does anyone know if that happened and what revenue it provided?

donutshopguy

piratesfirst,

Ok, the school spend $2 million dollars on computers. As a teacher would you rather have the money for computers or teachers? I know you want both but that's not going to happen. The superintendent picked computers and teachers will lose jobs. So, what's your choice?

Now, the BOE and superintendent chose a school building over teachers. Again, you can't have both, what do you want?

piratesfirst

The question you have posed is obviously difficult. Quality teachers, appriopriate teacher to student ratios, computers, and a new school are all of benefit to our students. My point of view is that we have an opportunity to give our kids as much as possible by passing this levy. It is a fact that our community's tax rate (21.6 mils)is far below the average tax rate of schools in Ohio (35 mils). I honestly do not mean this as a slam against our community. In my time here, I have witnessed this community to be supportive and strong, especially during difficult times. I wouldn't want to raise my children anywhere else. It has been thirteen years since there has been an increase in funding for Perkins, and Governer Kasich has done all he can to strip away the funding we already have.

I understand that people all have different opinions about the school, laptops, and teacher layoffs. As taxpayers, everyone is entitled to have those opinions.

My personal feeling is that all of the things on the table regarding this levy will directly benefit our students and strengthen our community. Even if people believe that there are ulterior motives behind these moves by others, there is no argument that the students will see direct and positive results. The students will gain more individual attention in class, more access to modern technology, and have a better environment for learning. In gaining this, we will still be paying far below the average tax rate in Ohio for schools, and it is only a ten year levy.

This is my best explanation for what my choice would be. Obviously, it is my own opinion and I am directly involved. I'm proud to live and teach in Perkins. I actually bought my house here when I was teaching in a different district, because I wanted my children to go to Perkins Local Schools when they became old enough. I honestly believe it's worth the investment in the long run.

Centauri

"It is a fact that our community's tax rate (21.6 mils)is far below the average tax rate of schools in Ohio (35 mils)."

http://www.beavercreektax.net/ta...
"One mill = an annual tax of $1.00 per $1,000 of assessed property value."

The solution might be to raise the property values to get more money for the schools.

Centauri

"It is a fact that our community's tax rate (21.6 mils)"

Where is the school's online information to back up your comments?
Where is the school's online financial information for the community?
Are there any pdf files?

http://www.perkinsschools.org/De...

http://www.perkins.k12.oh.us/

JohnDorian12

BUT they have a beautiful new Football stadium!!! I mean who needs teachers and other school activities when you have a shiny new stadium?? Teachers are losing their jobs and the school itself is falling down, maybe they can have classes in the stadium.....maybe they could dome the stadium and just let the school cave in...

donutshopguy

piratesfirst,

Again, like most of my questions to educators, no one can give me a straight answer to simple questions. In life most people have to make tough decisions. The rest of us who are not educators are very interested in your choices. I would chose teachers over computers and a building. That's where I stand. How about you. You have two questions and only two answers to chose from for each.

Computers or teachers?
Building or teachers?

VoteYES

What's wrong with having both when our taxes are not even high compared to others?

goodtime1212

Not A thing wrong with having both, Now all you have to do is give us someone we can trust to come up with real numbers what it cost to repair the school compaired to building a new one, and someone we can TRUST to spend our money.

piratesfirst

I understand the point you are trying to make. I also sincerely appreciate how you feel about the teacher's role in education.

I feel strongly about student to teacher ratio. There are also many collegues and friends who have proven to be excellent teachers. I would hate to see our system lose some of these bright, young educators. Students relate to them, and I have seen many of them accomplish wonderful things in the classroom. I also recognize that the technology we have integrated into our curriculum has been tremendously beneficial. I have watched student reading levels rise at amazing rates using diagnostic tools. There is no question that class time has been used more efficiently in my room due to the data I am provided from our technology. In regard to the new building, I do not teach at the high school. I have read over much of the same information that you probably have. The district feels that it may be more cost-effective to build new than to repair. I cannot speak on this as much as "teachers" and "laptops," because I don't have personal experience to draw from.

I apologize if it is frustrating to you that I cannot give you a flat out answer concerning what I would choose. I am not trying to be elusive, but it is a no-win situation. Of course, as an educator myself, I value the teacher's role in the classroom. I also support providing our kids with the best possible tools in preparing them for a successful future. I want our students to have access to the best education possible. I can't see the point of taking something away, simply to make a tough decision, when there is an option to succeed on all fronts.

It is also a realistic and viable option. With the passage of this ten-year levy, many things can be saved, and we would still be nearly ten mils under the state average for school funding.

I understand that there are many situations in life when we have to make tough decisons. I also understand that you are looking for a cut-and-dry answer from me, regarding how I value the three options you posed. I'm not answering you in this manner to frustrate you or to give you the run around. I see the passage of the levy as the best possible option when all things are considered. It would tear me up to be the one who would have to make these types of decisions. Considering what we would have to contribute, and where it stands in comparison with the rest of Ohio, the only decision I can make is to vote for the levy.

Centauri

http://www.perkinsschools.org/Te...
"Beginning in the School year 2009-2010, Both Perkins Middle School and Perkins High School issued laptops to each and every one of their students allowing for one laptop per student. This environment best prepares our students for learning in the 21st Century. No longer is there unequal access to technology for our students because of socioeconomic status. Each student is issued an Apple Macbook Air at the start of school that they use to complete work and communicate with their teachers and other students."

treemotan

Those were all paid for by a grant. The district paid nothing for the laptops.

whocares

Hey, Is Perkins going to have enough kids for a soccoer team this year. Who cares about football.

hometownboy

Until they can understand what NO means it's still NO from me! Further - No Confidence!

donutshopguy

piratesfirst,

You all must drink the same koolaid. BOE, administration and teachers can't answer my simple questions. Are you teaching our kids to be this undeceive. I have ask Mr. Gasteier similar one answer questions with no reply. He is in charge of communications for the school system and he can't communicate or just won't do to his masters direction.

Do you really wonder why people do't trust the school system? No one can answer a simple question.

piratesfirst

I think I have explained the most realistic choice possible. The answer I have given is the only one that I truly have a choice about in the real world. I have my vote. That is my real world decision.

I believe I have made it abundantly clear where I stand on all of this. Since you have still expressed concern over my personal ranking of the three options, I would say teachers, technology, and then the building. I value human beings above the other two "choices." However, with this being said, it is very possible to have all three, and they do not have to be "choices." There is no argument that all of these would be of benefit to kids.

My question to you is why it is so outlandish to have all three when our tax rate would still be beyond reasonable in the scope of the rest of the state? Like I've stated previously, we will still be nearly ten mils under the state average for the next ten years. There hasn't been an increase for thirteen years. On top of that, the funding hasn't even stayed static over those thirteen years. It has dropped and is set to drop even more drastically in the near future. Why limit our resources when the contribution being asked of us is plainly reasonable in comparison to the rest of the state?

donutshopguy

piratesfirst,

Thank you for your reply.

I am a realist. The possibility of having all three is remote. The BOE and superintendent have placed the building against the teachers (operating levy) with their "we are building without your vote" direction. The backlash on this philosophy will be felt in the district for years to come.

You can wish upon a star but I'm making plans to survive with numerous operating levy failures.

eriemom

Mr. donutshopguy,
I understand through your past posts that you were involved with the stadium construction. If that is true, then please explain why you are now against a levy. Did you vote for the first levy to build a new school? If not, why? I am perplexed. It seems to me that the cost to taxpayers was less when building an entire campus. We blew it.

donutshopguy

eriemom,

I was involved with the stadium. I forwarded the thought that it should be built with only private donations. I knew from previous experience that the use of public money in that endeavor would come back to haunt the school administration. The majority felt otherwise and the stadium project was completed with public and private funds.

I am not against operating levies per say. I am against the process taken by BOE and administration of proceeding with the building of an academy without the vote on this project from the citizens of this community. The BOE and administration have taken a calculated risk in moving outside millage to inside millage for the building. This outside millage, that was moved, needs to be replaced. They are replacing that millage with this new operating levy.

Thus, if I support the new operating levy, I am supporting the process of the BOE to remove public vote. I won't do that. I will not give up my rights to bureaucrats on the American ideal of voting and living with the majority on that vote.

The question is, are you willing to give up your right to vote? Are you willing to give bureaucrats control of your life?

I did not vote for the first building levy. The first proposed levy was filled with luxuries not necessary to promote education. For instance, a fountain in the middle of campus. If this present building concept was proposed it might have passed. Again, another miscalculation by the bureaucrats in charge. We did not blow it. The BOE and administration blew it.

They are blowing it by putting the building in front of teachers. They are blowing it by taking away the community's right to vote.

The BOE responsibility is to provide an education based on the core values of the community not the core values of themselves. Why would the BOE circumvent the process of having the community voice their values with a vote on the new school building? Think about it.

one_sandusky_dad

You know it just shocks me that all this crazy abuse of power is going on. When a home owner runs into trouble or gets laid off we get no help. We have nobody to bully or go to. But we get new police stations, new stadium and all the things the officials in perkins want. But of course they always over spend like on the police station. That we did not even need of course. Now the tax payers are being bullied into a levy or face losing the things for kids. As one person said just cut more jobs in the principal and higher ups. we are tired of being bullied. It hurts the kids. But nobody cared about the kids when spending the money foolish. I think we should all open enroll our kids to other schools. When perkins has no students the state will wonder why. That will teach the school board something. And if i would ever consider voting for a levy trying to bully me would make me say no way in a second. And i think first step is firing Gunner. Get rid of him and make him homeless and broke. Make it so he will be lucky to work at burger king and then maybe,, just maybe we will consider it.

dbstr

I supported the levy to build the new school complex and I was happy to do so. However, when it failed and the Perkins School District chose to beg for money from the community for a stadium they completely lost me. If the schools are so unsafe and in need, then why didn't the district beg for money and do fundraisers to build the schools, rather than a new stadium?? A new stadium will not provide my child with an education and it was an extravagant waste of money that could have been used elsewhere. I won't vote in support of a school levy ever again after that display of idiocy. Perkins Schools is in desperate need of an administrative team that makes wise financial decisions. Hopefully it won't be too cold for our kids when they have to sit out in our fancy new football stadium to take classes.

dwa9995294

I just wish the BOE & Mr. Gunner would be honest with us for once. I would've voted for the levy if they'd been honest. DBSTR you are right. The money spent on the stadium should've been used towards the new school. Stop saving for a new building, take that money back out & use it towards operating expenses.

Cross

I'm personally for more teachers, better services, and for a streamlined educational process that puts kids first. The reality is the board and superintendent are more interested in a brand new facility and appropriating funds than they are on the actual kids.

This debate is filled with low information 'voters' on both sides, and the truth is the board and superintendent are not looking out for the district's best interests, and unfortunately this levy does not have a good chance of passing.

What we need is far more transparency and a valid plan that does not involve a ton of money sunk into new buildings The health department already invalidated the claim that the current ones are unsafe, but it is apparent the district is being very poorly managed and money is not being utilized appropriately.

John Harville

Put the blame where it belongs... on the shoulders of John Kasich wh 'overcame" the defitic by undercutting schools,cities, counties and any other local government you can find... taking ourtaxes and giviing them to his buddies.

treemotan

YES! THANK YOU. I've been waiting for someone to see the root of the problem.

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