Safe Routes to Schools meeting planned

Area officials scheduled a meeting to discuss a new program encouraging walking to and from schools 6 p.m. Monday at the New Jerusalem Baptist Church at 1920 Eddy Henry Way.
Tom Jackson
Feb 3, 2013

Planners will discuss the new Safe Routes to Schools program for Sandusky Schools. 

Sandusky officials applied for the maximum $500,000 to install sidewalks, crosswalks and other safety measures around the district's education centers. The plan outlined improvements for every school district, although, planners are prioritizing Sandusky High School, Ontario Elementary and Mills Elementary.

The state department-sponsored program aims to:

- Improve the environmental around the school to encourage walking and bicycling to and from school.

- Expand the school's curriculum and activities to include safety and education programs that will teach children pedestrian and bicycling safety.

- Hold events to encourage walking and biking.

Comments

T. A. Schwanger

I believe this program was moved forward by City Commissioners Cole and Poole

CITY OF SANDUSKY COMMISSIONERS ‐ SPECIAL SESSION February 22, 2011 Diedre Cole said she added the safe routes to school initiative.

Let me be the first commenter to thank you. This proposed program moved forward rather quickly--not often seen in local government. I suspect your critics will remain silent on this.

wiredmama222

Ah, yes, your two favorite people leading the way. Ahhh.

I believe Mills already has sidewalks around the entire thing. Ontario has an almost entire route as well. Sandusky High got new sidewalks in front just last year with curbs included with the new street, did they not?

So how far down do they hope to EXTEND these sidewalks. Mills goes down to the railroad tracks and beyond and also to Perkins. And down to Camp. Where would they go from there.

Sandusky High goes all the way to downtown, and thanks to Dave Waddington, the underpass has great sidewalks. They also go to Perkins Ave and around all the corners to other streets off each way.

Ontario, I am not sure.

So just where would that 500,00 be used except by Cliff carry out which has no sidewalk by it?

twosenseworth

@wiredmama222
Have you viewed the "Infrastructure Countermeasure Recommendations" list on potential improvements? The SRTS initiative is about much, much more than just sidewalks.

T. A. Schwanger

@Wired:: I just knew you couldn't help yourself.

To better inform yourself on this issue, and to prepare yourself for the upcoming election, I would suggest you contact the proper government officials to educate yourself on issues such as this prior to beating down the program. The PDF of SRTS is available on computer from the City Commission Clerk and your questions and concerns can be answered this evening at the community meeting.

wiredmama222

Let me ask you something, Mr Schwanger. It seems to me that you have been given a great deal of latitude with the two commissioners of late? I am just curious as your name seems to be connected with theirs continually and you seem to be into this work all the time with them, doing the work. How is that possible? Being on a committee is one thing, but being THIS involved is quite different where you call the meetings and you tell people where to go and what to look up is something entirely different. Just how long has this been going on anyway? I would really like to know for my own reference? You seem to you a little too much information about the other commissioners as well. How do YOU know how they are going to vote and on what issues? Did you ask them? Why is that your concern? As a citizen it is one thing, but knonwing before hand is really disingenuous it seems to me. Why should you be getting that information long before the rest of the citizeny does? I just don't understand that. You told me how the other 4 are going to vote already and no vote has been taken yet on moving the court house. To my knowledge it hasn't even been brought up yet, but you know. When did you become the seventh unelected commissioner? I wasn't aware that we had an election where you were placed into any kind of power of any sort. I find that odd and unsettling. IMHO, things such as motions, voting matters and what is happening with commission matters should stay with the commissioners until THEY decide what to do. I didn't know they were up for discussion with just anyone at anytime, including how they intended to vote. If that is the case, from now on, I will simply hunt them down prior to every issue and ask. Then I don't have to attend any further meetings...I will know before hand what is going on just like you.

T. A. Schwanger

@ Wired.

Go Fish was one of my favorite games growing up so I'll play along.

With the SRTS program, I figured it would be nice to give credit where credit is due. How do I know so much about the SRTS Program? I requested a PDF copy from the Commission Clerk. It's called the Ohio Open Records Law.

If you are insinuating I am receiving inside information you are sadly mistaken. All the information and issues you speak of are readily available on the City's web-page, the web-page calender and City Commission meeting minutes. Additionaly, I pay very very close attention to what is said by City Commissioners during commission meetings.

I also rely on largely accurate information supplied by the Sandusky Register and reporter Andy Ouriel.

If you desire to be informed on City issues, I suggest you attend more than one single City Commission meeting per year or watch the meetings on television. Each meeting is televised three times. Times are available on the City's web-page as well.(when cable decides to show the correct meeting).

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The Hero Zone

In a show of the left hand knowing what the right is doing, as well as intra-governmental collaboration, members of the Crime Prevention Committee will be attending this presentation to help coordinate our efforts!

wiredmama222

I would have felt better about seeing money spent on THIS than on wasting money on sidewalks that this city doesn't need. This committee could have used money for it's work. This is a much better effort in my estimation than wasting it on something that we already have. Take a drive, we have sidewalks already by almost ever one of these schools and kids could walk and ride bikes to these schools IF it were SAFE to do so.

The Bizness

The money is allocated the the specific purpose of improving walking and biking to schools, so it can't be used for other things.

Also its not just about side walks. Maybe, to install push buttons at crosswalks, or widen roads for bike lanes. Who knows but our kids need to get off their butts and walk or ride!

wiredmama222

I know that, It is not what I meant, but since you bring it up. I have a real problem putting bikes on the roads for children to be riding on the streets. It is dangerous at best with the way people drive, to put them out on a street, such as Mills, shall we say, where people pay little attention these days to their driving habits. It frightens me to think that a younger child might be on his or her bike riding to school when some idiot on a cell phone comes flying down Mills street and hits a child. We put them in harms way. That doesn't sit well with me.

We are all concerned about kids today and the obseity problems. Why not try to institute more exercise classes in gym? Programs before and after school that encourages kids to be more active?

I understand THIS money isn't for that, but why not consider before and after school programs that encourage kid activities that would benefit their health needs? Say an hour after school each day of physical activity? Something such as that, rather than put them in a position where they may get hurt or killed by a distracted driver?

wiredmama222

@the hero zone....I take it by that response that your committee was unaware of this as well? That your crime prevention committee was not aware of this money being available for said program? Just interested in knowing? I am certain that YOUR committee will work together for an easy and acceptable cooperation in all that is done. Good for you.

T. A. Schwanger

@ Wired.

With the SRTS program, I figured it would be nice to give credit where credit is due. How do I know so much about the SRTS Program? I requested a PDF copy from the Commission Clerk. It's called the Ohio Open Records Law.

If you are insinuating I am receiving inside information you are sadly mistaken. All the information and issues you speak of are readily available on the City's web-page, the web-page calender and City Commission meeting minutes. Additionaly, I pay very very close attention to what is said by City Commissioners during commission meetings.

I also rely on largely accurate information supplied by the Sandusky Register and reporter Andy Ouriel.

If you desire to be informed on City issues, I suggest you attend more than one single City Commission meeting per year or watch the meetings on television. Each meeting is televised three times. Times are available on the City's web-page as well.(when cable decides to show the correct meeting).

wiredmama222

And your point is? Am I supposed to be impressed or something? I am not buying what you are selling at any price. This is all too pat for me to swallow. I don't do pat. EVER.

As for your getting inside information....come now. You don't expect me to believe otherwise. I may have been born at night...but it was not last night. I do believe it, I am not insinuating it, I am saying it outloud. I am saying you get inside information all the time. You and several others. So let us not play games with one another. Its degrading and meaningless.

As for you and I. I do not "play fish" with anyone. I suggest you play alone. Stick to the subjects at hand.

I say exactly what I mean. I said what I meant before and you came back with the typical political answer. It figures. That non committal bilge that goes with a "we are but we can't tell you now" sort of thing. Also degrading and unprofessional to those who have to deal with it. I cannot wait to say "I told you so" when it comes to light. I shall remind you of this.

As for the rest of your comments. I just LOVE people who assume anything about me. They assume they know what I do and what I do not do. They assume they know me, they assume they know what I read, watch, think do and say at ever turn of the day. Then, when they find out they are wrong, they get all shook up and do not understand. They get shocked and cannot understand where they went wrong. I could tell you but you wouldn't listen anyway. Your type never does. That's ok. Its your loss.

We, you and I, will never see eye to eye on anything. I don't believe in the "hush-hush" kind of tactics you and yours play with. I am the all open, up front kind of person who does not hide anything back. You and yours are not. That is the biggest difference between us. I don't like games, I don't play games.

T. A. Schwanger

I was simply trying to give you some helpfull hints on how to educate yourself on City issues.

How else would you spend this money since it is specifically earmarked for the SRTS program as a previous commenter in this article explained to you.

Have you asked for a copy of the SRTS proposal? You may be surprised.

wiredmama222

Rather than put children at risk by riding on the streets. Has anyone considered expanding the sidewalk instead? Perhaps putting a "bike lane" on the sidewalk, which is not that heavily travelled in most of the school areas would be far more practical then putting kids in the streets. Most of the buttons at crossing are found by posts on the corners on the sidewalks anyway.

I really have a problem putting younger children of grade school age into the streets with motorists. It just seems to me that sidewalks that are not heavy with traffic seem like such a less travelled area would make a much better place for kids to ride than in the streets. They are safer than the streets, keeping the children out of harms way of cars, less likely to accidently fall into traffic, less likely to weave in and out from between parked cars and less likely to fall into a moving car.

They also can take advantage of using the ramps getting from curb to curb that exist now. All around they are a much better opinion than the roadway.

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