Officials eye Sandusky Mall bus stop for improvements

The mall is among the most popular stops on Sandusky Transit's three separate Sandusky-Perkins Area Ride Connection routes.
Andy Ouriel
Jan 26, 2013


Shoppers already partake in small journeys when they hike from store to store inside the Sandusky Mall.

But for those relying upon public transportation for lifts, the last thing they want is to hike across the parking lot to wait for a ride.

The mall is among the most popular stops on Sandusky Transit’s three separate Sandusky-Perkins Area Ride Connection routes. About 15,600 SPARC riders were dropped off at the mall in 2011 and 2012, according to transit data.

Each hour at specific times, vehicles stop at more than 40 spots in Sandusky and Perkins Township. Most people pay $1 each time they board a bus, although some can ride for free.

Everything about the system screams affordability and conveniency — except the stops at Sandusky Mall.

Transit vehicles don’t stop in front of department stores such as JCPenney or Macy’s. Instead, customers must walk to a traffic island between the mall and Target plaza to hop on the bus.

The traffic island is situated several hundred feet away from the mall’s northern edge.

No doubt the situation frustrates riders who have to carry shopping bags across the parking lot, especially when there’s no shelter at the waiting area to protect people from snow, rain or wind.

But the situation could change soon.

Prompted by a Register request, mall executives said they plan to collaborate with city transit officials in moving the transit stop closer to the mall. It ’s unknown exactly when this could occur.

“We don’t have a problem with that,” Cafaro Co. spokesman Joe Bell said about moving the stop closer to the mall.

The Cafaro Co., which owns the Sandusky Mall and 11 other major shopping centers, allows public transit to each of its properties.

“People rely upon public transportation to get to malls,” Bell said. “We would be happy to hear something from the transit administrator about doing that.”

Sandusky Transit and the Sandusky Mall

• Sandusky Transit picks up and drops off passengers several hundred feet away from Sandusky Mall.

• People wait outside in a high-traffic area and aren’t protected from extreme weather.

• Transit workers and mall executives are working to move the stop closer to the mall.



It's too bad the mall has so many empty stores.


Do people have to invest any effort in this subsided form of transportation? Now the government is going to drop them off at the door? OMG, they have to walk a couple hundred feet for their entitlement. Does it ever end ?

Answer: Never.


OMG why can't the people working and shopping at the SAndusky Mall be given a little bit of shelter from the elements. After all they are contributing to the the areas economy. The Sparc is a godsend for those who for whatever reason are unable to transport themselves.

yea right

Ds guy how bout the handicapped and or elderly. cpl hundred ft is alot


I'm assuming you meant "subsidied" not subsided. Anyway, I agree with you 100%. Suddenly it's MY fault that people can't afford cars. My median American salary is apparently meant to feed everyone else. Definition of middle class: the ability to pay taxes to support government programs that I don't qualify for.

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yea right

Hahaha does your ego let you in the house.


People go to the mall????????????


I always drop my wife off at the curb and then end up parking five acres away and walking. Perhaps we should park downtown, take the bus and be dropped of at Macy's doorstep. Also perhaps a uniformed doorman would be nice.
Before New Departure's Hdq relocation to the area, these people didn't even know what a shopping mall was.


seriously, without a transit system, some of these people wouldn't be able to go to work and become responsible tax payers. you want them to pay rent, pay their utilities and buy a car and pay for gas and insurance all on a minimum wage job? For pete's sake, give them a shelter so they don't have to stand out in the rain and cold and wait for the bus, so they don't get sick and become disabled and unable to work and have to go to the emergency room which they can't afford on minimum wage either...honestly, those of us who work should be frickin' jumping up and down with joy that they have jobs and we should be doing everything we can to encourage the working poor to get experience and better themselves.


they don't pay taxes anyway!!!!!!

The Bizness

If they earn a paycheck, they are paying taxes....


That's untrue. Minimum wage folks get more back than what they payed in so if ya do the math.....


Not sure why this would be a issue for some people. The bus system is a good thing for this area. Problem is the minimum wage jobs these people have is not enough pay. They may have a house and kids they are trying to pay for. I give a person credit for riding the bus to go to work to try and make it. Build the shelter. Most of you are yapping about how you got to pay for it and don't even have a clue if the mall is paying for some.

Minimum wage should be higher. And before some of you right wingers get on here and say I am wrong you go work for that for awhile and see how you do. A study done on Wal Mart showed that a big percentage of the workers there are still on some kind of assistance because they do not make enough to get by. Go ahead and say that the people should better themselves. Remember someone has to do these jobs. Next time you walk through a walmart or another store just remember that person is paying taxes and doing a job most likely you wouldn't do. But be careful. Bad times can fall on anyone and it may be you having to work there.


Lets see. The transit authority spends $1.7 million dollars to provide for 145,000 riders. So lets deduct $145,000 dollars ($1 per ride) from the total. That's $1.555 million dollars to provide 145,000 rides. Divide the rides into the remaining cost. That works out to $10.72 per rider in taxpayer support to operate the program.

Might as well drop them off at the door. The entitlement is beyond my comprehension.
And yes, there are grants that pay for some of this transportation. Where does grant money come from? Yeah, taxpayers. It's all your money no matter what anyone calls it.

Now, compound that by a few billion dollars to understand the state entitlement. Now add a few trillion dollars and you have got the federal government entitlement. We are broke from the national level to the local level and no politicians understand.


So, I guess all of you who are against this program are willing to car pool with these folks who need rides in order to get to work or to spend money which generates tax dollars. Very nice of you to offer. Some of these "takers" are probably even spending money at your work place for one of your products or services. The number of riders continues to increase-that's a good sign. How exactly do you expect minimum wage to pay for anyone to own a vehicle and pay for other expenses?


This is an idiotic reply to the problem at hand. These folks who are working in that area are minimum wage folks who make NO contributions as tax payers. To say that they do is just plain wrong. They receive more money in federal and state support than they pay in taxes which they get back every year anyway!!! 47%. Remember?



Not against the program. Against the funding of the program. If the program is self sufficient, it has my utmost support.

It's not my job to make sure people on minimum wage have the same resources as people who have used education and/or hard work to improve themselves. It's called personal responsibility.


hm...take it away, and you end up with plenty of unemployed people, filing for unemployment, assistance, and other "tax-payer" amenities...not to mention the destruction it may bring for those whom only keep a job BECAUSE of the transportation provided...crime and poverty will rise, and tax-payers will have to then, foot that bill....take it while it's cheap I figure.



Your logic over the last four years has created trillions of dollars of debt. It's not cheap.


Seems that some people on here think that this service is for low income only. If I understand it correctly, this is a service for anyone. Young or old, rich or poor. I agree that if they are going to have this service, shelter from the elements need to be provided.


There are to be some shelters coming. The question is when will the city install them.


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I agree.


...AND SHELTER FOR THEM AND PERHAPS THEIR CHILDREN...who doesn't like to shop on their days off, or before their shifts anyways?

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This is a positive step. Why so many negative comments? Not only do people who do not have cars ride the bus but there are a whole lot of young people that work at our major attractions that do not have cars for transportation. I have said in these blogs before that these busses could have a rack on the side to help transport these young people so they do not get squished on Rt250.

A small bus shelter would be relatively inexpensive, just pattern it after any of the RTA stops in the Cleveland area, and size it for the typical number of riders. If the mall is into it, put the shelter and stop back by the bathroom area, they could make a few bucks with vending machines with pop, water, candy and even cool sand witches. Don’t be too negative on this one.

Just saying!


Free food.
Free housing.
Free utilities.
Free transportation.
Free clothing.
Free daycare.
Free education.
Free cell phone.

No need for personal responsibility.

Pterocarya frax... move to another country...yeah I am talking to you....just like I am free to choose not to buy donuts from you.


I think I like donutshopguy

T. A. Schwanger

Everyone's concern should be what happens once Fed. and State funding for this program begins to disappear like all grants eventually do and local government is left with the empty money bag. Higher taxes to continue the program, cancelled program, or moving money from other projects?