Officials eye Sandusky Mall bus stop for improvements

The mall is among the most popular stops on Sandusky Transit's three separate Sandusky-Perkins Area Ride Connection routes.
Andy Ouriel
Jan 26, 2013

Sandusky Transit picks up and drops people several hundred feet away from Sandusky Mall stop.

People wait outside in a high-traffic area and aren't protected from extreme weather. Transit workers and mall executives working to move the stop closer to mall.

For more on what officials are doing to improve the mall bus stop, pick up a copy of Saturday's Register. Grab Sunday's Register for another story on the growing local transit system.

Comments

badboy

It's too bad the mall has so many empty stores.

donutshopguy

Do people have to invest any effort in this subsided form of transportation? Now the government is going to drop them off at the door? OMG, they have to walk a couple hundred feet for their entitlement. Does it ever end ?

Answer: Never.

eightballcuet1

OMG why can't the people working and shopping at the SAndusky Mall be given a little bit of shelter from the elements. After all they are contributing to the the areas economy. The Sparc is a godsend for those who for whatever reason are unable to transport themselves.

yea right

Ds guy how bout the handicapped and or elderly. cpl hundred ft is alot

phroggy

I'm assuming you meant "subsidied" not subsided. Anyway, I agree with you 100%. Suddenly it's MY fault that people can't afford cars. My median American salary is apparently meant to feed everyone else. Definition of middle class: the ability to pay taxes to support government programs that I don't qualify for.

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DEEPsix

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yea right

Hahaha does your ego let you in the house.

phroggy

People go to the mall????????????

Restless1

I always drop my wife off at the curb and then end up parking five acres away and walking. Perhaps we should park downtown, take the bus and be dropped of at Macy's doorstep. Also perhaps a uniformed doorman would be nice.
Before New Departure's Hdq relocation to the area, these people didn't even know what a shopping mall was.

Doody

seriously, without a transit system, some of these people wouldn't be able to go to work and become responsible tax payers. you want them to pay rent, pay their utilities and buy a car and pay for gas and insurance all on a minimum wage job? For pete's sake, give them a shelter so they don't have to stand out in the rain and cold and wait for the bus, so they don't get sick and become disabled and unable to work and have to go to the emergency room which they can't afford on minimum wage either...honestly, those of us who work should be frickin' jumping up and down with joy that they have jobs and we should be doing everything we can to encourage the working poor to get experience and better themselves.

phroggy

they don't pay taxes anyway!!!!!!

The Bizness

If they earn a paycheck, they are paying taxes....

phroggy

That's untrue. Minimum wage folks get more back than what they payed in so if ya do the math.....

cam

Not sure why this would be a issue for some people. The bus system is a good thing for this area. Problem is the minimum wage jobs these people have is not enough pay. They may have a house and kids they are trying to pay for. I give a person credit for riding the bus to go to work to try and make it. Build the shelter. Most of you are yapping about how you got to pay for it and don't even have a clue if the mall is paying for some.

Minimum wage should be higher. And before some of you right wingers get on here and say I am wrong you go work for that for awhile and see how you do. A study done on Wal Mart showed that a big percentage of the workers there are still on some kind of assistance because they do not make enough to get by. Go ahead and say that the people should better themselves. Remember someone has to do these jobs. Next time you walk through a walmart or another store just remember that person is paying taxes and doing a job most likely you wouldn't do. But be careful. Bad times can fall on anyone and it may be you having to work there.

donutshopguy

Lets see. The transit authority spends $1.7 million dollars to provide for 145,000 riders. So lets deduct $145,000 dollars ($1 per ride) from the total. That's $1.555 million dollars to provide 145,000 rides. Divide the rides into the remaining cost. That works out to $10.72 per rider in taxpayer support to operate the program.

Might as well drop them off at the door. The entitlement is beyond my comprehension.
And yes, there are grants that pay for some of this transportation. Where does grant money come from? Yeah, taxpayers. It's all your money no matter what anyone calls it.

Now, compound that by a few billion dollars to understand the state entitlement. Now add a few trillion dollars and you have got the federal government entitlement. We are broke from the national level to the local level and no politicians understand.

9299

So, I guess all of you who are against this program are willing to car pool with these folks who need rides in order to get to work or to spend money which generates tax dollars. Very nice of you to offer. Some of these "takers" are probably even spending money at your work place for one of your products or services. The number of riders continues to increase-that's a good sign. How exactly do you expect minimum wage to pay for anyone to own a vehicle and pay for other expenses?

phroggy

This is an idiotic reply to the problem at hand. These folks who are working in that area are minimum wage folks who make NO contributions as tax payers. To say that they do is just plain wrong. They receive more money in federal and state support than they pay in taxes which they get back every year anyway!!! 47%. Remember?

donutshopguy

9299,

Not against the program. Against the funding of the program. If the program is self sufficient, it has my utmost support.

It's not my job to make sure people on minimum wage have the same resources as people who have used education and/or hard work to improve themselves. It's called personal responsibility.

24productions

hm...take it away, and you end up with plenty of unemployed people, filing for unemployment, assistance, and other "tax-payer" amenities...not to mention the destruction it may bring for those whom only keep a job BECAUSE of the transportation provided...crime and poverty will rise, and tax-payers will have to then, foot that bill....take it while it's cheap I figure.

donutshopguy

24productions,

Your logic over the last four years has created trillions of dollars of debt. It's not cheap.

grandmasgirl

Seems that some people on here think that this service is for low income only. If I understand it correctly, this is a service for anyone. Young or old, rich or poor. I agree that if they are going to have this service, shelter from the elements need to be provided.

Darkhorse

There are to be some shelters coming. The question is when will the city install them.

24productions

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4shizzle

I agree.

24productions

...AND SHELTER FOR THEM AND PERHAPS THEIR CHILDREN...who doesn't like to shop on their days off, or before their shifts anyways?

2cents

This is a positive step. Why so many negative comments? Not only do people who do not have cars ride the bus but there are a whole lot of young people that work at our major attractions that do not have cars for transportation. I have said in these blogs before that these busses could have a rack on the side to help transport these young people so they do not get squished on Rt250.

A small bus shelter would be relatively inexpensive, just pattern it after any of the RTA stops in the Cleveland area, and size it for the typical number of riders. If the mall is into it, put the shelter and stop back by the bathroom area, they could make a few bucks with vending machines with pop, water, candy and even cool sand witches. Don’t be too negative on this one.

Just saying!

donutshopguy

Free food.
Free housing.
Free utilities.
Free transportation.
Free clothing.
Free daycare.
Free education.
Free cell phone.

No need for personal responsibility.

Pterocarya frax...

Free...to move to another country...yeah I am talking to you....just like I am free to choose not to buy donuts from you.

phroggy

I think I like donutshopguy

T. A. Schwanger

Everyone's concern should be what happens once Fed. and State funding for this program begins to disappear like all grants eventually do and local government is left with the empty money bag. Higher taxes to continue the program, cancelled program, or moving money from other projects?