Sandusky man dies from stab wounds

Sandusky police are investigating a stabbing death and are holding a suspect.
Mike Schaffer
Dec 15, 2012

Sandusky police are investigation a stabbing death and are holding a suspect.

Jared Rhodes, 24, 200 block of Lawrence, died at 2 p.m. at Firelands Regional Medical Center after sustaining three stab wounds early Saturday morning.

Police arrested Tre'Vonte "Tre" Adcock, 18, 2000 block of Camp Street as a suspect in the stabbing death. Advock was being held in Erie County Jail on Saturday.

 

Comments

car 54

When will the city commission offer the SPD help? Some of the commissioners ran on preventing crime and drugs.

wiredmama222

what could the city commissioners possibly do for the SPD except quickly ok a new police chief that could assist with some new ideas and help lead the SPD? It's pretty obvious they need some new leadership with this amount of murders. I doubt there is much more the city commissioners can do as they are not police officers.

KnuckleDragger

Actually the violent crime rate has little to do with the police and everything to do with the decay of the cities moral fiber. You could have the best police force in the country but as long as we are raising a bunch of hellions with no respect for life or the rule of law, this is what you will see. What we have is a city full of people living on entitlements with idle hands and plenty of time to prey on others. The only way to solve it is to get them to work. Either they need to kick them off of entitlements (regardless of whether they decided to breed 8 kids) or force them and any teenage children to work for the entitlements. That means mom and/or dad putting in a full 40hrs/week working and teenage kids working at least part time. If they decline or won't do their assigned job, then they lose the entitlements.

onlyfacts

Excellent!

mrjsiah

Does that also include norwalk

BEHAPPY

I have to agree with KNUCKLEDRAGGER on this one~it's the truth!

wiredmama222

I totally agree, but I was answering Car's suggestiong that the Commissioners could do anything with the police. They couldn't any more than the police can do anything with these disrespectufl kids who do these deeds. Like he says, it starts with the parents and goes downhill from there and I totally agree. The moral fiber in this country is broken. I wonder if it can ever really be repaired? Is it too late for that?

donutshopguy

Is this the 7th or 8th murder in 2012 ?

breadandbutter

number 6

GottaloveNorwalk

this one is number 7.

mrjsiah

this one is number 5 for sandusky

GottaloveNorwalk

You have the mom with 2 babes, one on wilson street, the one on I think it was farwell, then the 3 year old boy

heaven-leigh

Wilson Street? Never heard about that one.

RedApple

Gottalovenorwalk, do you mean Wilbert St, where the man was killed?

RedApple

Gottalovenorwalk, do you mean Wilbert St, where the man was killed?

BytheBy

Yes, it was Wilbert. NOT Wilson St.

KnuckleDragger

The one on Wilbert St, the three killed by Curtis Clinton, the three year old child Owen Barker, a female on Follet St killed by Theodis Keys Jr. and this one. That is 6 for the year as far as I could find doing a search of what the register has reported.

donutshopguy

Sandusky is "Little Detroit".

Based on statistics as of today approximately 1 out of every 2,000 people are murdered in Detroit. In Sandusky, approximately 1 out of every 2,400 people are murdered.

If our gangs could shoot a little better we could surpass big bad Detroit. Only 3 more murders this year and we will win.

Wonder how the visitors and convention bureau will make this a positive point to visit the area.

Oh yeah, "Small Town Murder Capital of the US."

wiredmama222

didn't someone just post that the FBI said the stats for Sandusky were down from the last 20 years not too long ago? I could have sworn I read that on a post from someone. It sure doesn't appear to be true, now does it?

heaven-leigh

"little Detroit?" very original..about 5 years ago. People have been calling Sandusky that for years. Good one.

wiredmama222

I can remember my FATHER calling Sandusky that way back when. It was Little Detroit when HE was a kid and that goes back some 70 years.

he said she said

RIP Jared. You will be missed by those that love you and judged by those that didn't....

smeltz

So sad to hear about this tragic death...I bet if we had more "knife control" laws things like this would happen...such a tragic story.

totallyamazed

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Here's an interesting read on the POSSIBLE reason behind the American murder problem, or at least why small towns are having this epidemic.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magaz...
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Really are you ...

Does anyone know what street this happened on, in Sandusky? Just curious, all of these unnecessary murders as of late.

YouDon'tSay

Clinton

Joker
he said she said

Joker, Don't judge someone by their facebook page. Tre is 18; still wet behing the ears and wouldn't know thug life if it bit him on his a%^.

I see you didn't post Jared's facebook up here. Guess you didn't want the family man pictures to upset your thug life attitude.

KnuckleDragger

Are you kidding? Kids are getting involved in gang and thug life as early as 10. People like you, with their head in the sand are part of the problem.

he said she said

My head is not in the sand. I have a past with gang activity in it only it was in Chicago. Folks like you who think you know everybody like me don't know anything and would be the first one's gone in Chi.

And just because Tre had the bull%^$& on his facebook, don't mean Jared was.

Another biased person because of skin color....go somewhere else and drag those knuckles man

BEHAPPY

There we go bringing up color again~who are the first ones to bring up color and race? Who? Thought so

Joker

Couldn't find Jared's

safecracker2

As bad at it's been, this is just the beginning. Unless something drastically changes.

he said she said

Don't judge what you don't know!

for those of you that are curious about Jared.

http://www.facebook.com/jared.rh...

Rest in Peace Nephew....

sandtown born a...

Both of the facebook photos were taken in the same room and the victim had Tre listed as his nephew. Family killing family

CAST THE FIRST STONE

Really all it would of took was a new police chief. What if the kid didnt read the paper to know we had a new police chief. So you think all the thugs will get together and say it was fun while it lasted but we have to stop now because there is a new chief in town. These people dont know who the mayor is. Bad people do bad things and most of them watched it in their homes growing up. Not the cops fault

OnlyfoolsAssume

Thats 7. Also whats a new chief going to do criminals dont care who the chief is...and it seems spd is doing just fine since every story ends with them apprehending the party responsible

DGMutley

Donut,

Drop the pencil and move away from the calculator.

Using the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, Detroit had 12.4 murders per 25,812 people (Sandusky's pop.) in 2011.

Using the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, Detroit had 553 violent crimes per 25,812 people (Sandusky's pop.) in 2011.

Sandusky reported 120 violent crimes in 2011. So you can see that we are considerably lower than Detroit.

Quit making stuff up.

donutshopguy

Mutt,

I'm looking at exsisting figures for 2012. You are analyzing old numbers. Basing my numbers on the real number of citizens in both cities and deaths as of yesterday.

The concept of even tying these two cities together is frightening for me. You, on the other hand, continue to wear blinders and see Sandusky as utopia.

Never thought utopia was mass exodus of people from the city and school systems. Never thought utopia was 79% of households are rentals and 85% of students in the school system on free or reduced breakfasts and lunch.

We have different ideas on utopia. We have different ideas on personal responsibility. We have different ideas on entitlement. We have different ideas on crime and drugs.

I'm glad I'm different.

mrjsiah

You cant espect anything more from dumnuts when it comes to sandusky.

donutshopguy

mrjsiah,

Yes, I "espect" you are one of those who lack personal responsibility and are supported by entitlement.

Eliminate entitlement in the city and the crime and drugs will follow. It's that simple.

mrjsiah

Well dumnuts since i do work two jobs and my wife works respiratory. I aspect you r view on everything is as negative as always like i said you get on here and make things up all the time.

DGMutley

Donut,
Sorry, no cigar. If you use current data Sandusky looks even better. According to Detroit's own website they've had 365 murders as of December 9, 2012. According to the U.S. Census, Detroit's most current estimated population is 706,585 and Sandusky's estimated population is 25,682.

This means that for Sandusky to equal Detroit's murder rate we need to have had 13.3 murders by Dec. 9, 2012.

What did you say our murder count is for the year so far?

DGMutley

Donut,

Why DO you compare Sandusky's crime rate to that of Detroit's? There is no comparison, the comment is simply a derogatory.

Huron has lost more population than Sandusky. What is the explanation for that? With all your unhappiness I can't understand why YOU haven't exited the area or have you?

deertracker

I count a total of seven people murdered this year. Yes it is very tragic and alarming but we need more details before we start judging either one of them. Newtown was supposedly one of the safest places in the country yet look what happened there. There always seem to be accusations of one's economic status whenever there is a crime here but I don't always hear those same accusations in other cases. Why is that? That's because crime happens everywhere regardless of economics.

Kimo

There is no easy answer to this problem. Drug tests are a "feel good cure".
Take a gal with four kids, she tests positive for drugs. Cut off the welfare. Who feeds the kids? Throw her in jail, she gets three hots and a cot, you still have to deal with the kids.
Then you have the easy access to guns that are "kill people quick" weapons. The country is flooded with these guns. It comes down to who is the quickest draw and the best shot. The perps have the house advantage.

cockynurse

Very sad. Looks like these 2 were related-what a very sad time for their family. As far as the police go-people complain that they don't do their job and bla bla bla. The police in this city get treated like crap. I know I would have a poor attitude if I went to work every day to protect and serve and got treated like they do...and for what? A slap on the wrist. Their needs to be stiffer punishments imposed for smaller crimes before things get out of hand. I love O'Brien, personally. Professionally, I wish he would consider the state of this city and start putting the smack down on people. According to the municipal website, Adcock has no record. We do not know the circumstances surrounding this case. Additionally, Rhodes does have a record-quite lengthy for someone so young.

IF someone ran against O'Brien for judge now-and took the stance of stiffer punishments-I would vote for them. I would also vote for funds for a MUCH LARGER jail and the resources to operate it. What's been isn't working. Lets lock these people up and stop pretending like our "court system" is a daycare for screw-ups.

KnuckleDragger

Actually Adcock, who just recently turned 18 has a quite an impressive resume (criminal), you just won't see it on the muni court site because he was a juvenile. It just so happens that his first felony he was caught committing as an adult is murder.

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2cents

Yea I know that one too! He hung out with a kid I knew well, waiting for him to turn 18 and then you may see his name in print as well. I hope he learns and does not end up like his buddy Trey.....
BTW, I watched these kids play video games, i think they would play all night long. I looked at Amazon and (Best Sellers in Xbox 360 Shooter Action Games) Ironicly the list was over 100 long!!!!

mrjsiah

How do you know his juvie record i guess you work for law enforcement now. I know him personally and he is not the person you are trying to make him. But in this case he broke the law and have to pay no matter what his juvis record is.

Red Baron

When are we going to have a serious debate about banning knives?

thinktwice

What a way to end the year.

lugnut2511

If it's a drug deal gone bad, so be it, let them take one another out!! If not, atleast they have a suspect in custody..

mrjsiah

What are you talking about a drug deal gone bad come on dont make things up we have dumnuts for that.

BEHAPPY

Time to quit defending the criminals MRJSIAH. I notice you seem to be here defending them every time something like this happens~nothing personal~just sayin'

mrjsiah

Well you seem to be reading someone elses because i have said many times on here that if people commit the crimes on here they should do the time. Am i suppose to be on here and make like im better than anyone else no i was taught better than that . Plus being a criminal justice major i do believe in the system. Most of the articles i respond to is when someone gets race involved so dont try to get on here and make me out to be somebody im not.I have been on here for a little over three years and not once did i ever take up for the criminal like i said adcock is a { GOOD KID AND HE DID THE CRIME AND WILL HAVE TO DO THE TIME }.

donutshopguy

mrjsiah,

Never once have I used the "race card". I've used the "personal responsibility card" and the "end of entitlement card" in most of my comments.

Would like a "race card". Where can I pick one up? They seem to allow less personal responsibility and a wealth of entitlement.

So as a criminal justice major please explain the reason for the increased murders in Sandusky. Please explain why the largest proportion of crime in the county is coming from Sandusky.

I await your educated answers.

DGMutley

Donut,

Don't keep us waiting, what are the reasons for each of the murders? I'm interested to know what is was that triggered each one of them. The entitlements, people were renters, low wage earners, no wage earners, free school lunch program, SPARC? Please explain because I'm very interesting in knowing.

DGMutley

Donut,

In 2008, 1 murder; 2009, 0 murders; 2010, 0 murders; 2011, 1 murder. The demographics haven't changed much between now and then. If your reasoning is correct why haven't there been more murders in the past? The truth of the matter is that crime is decreasing. It is higher though than the national average.

Instead of blaming renters and people getting food stamps for the crime rate let's put it where it belongs--kids dropping out with no education or job skills. There were 45 students who didn't graduate last year. It's cumulative and problems associated are cumulative.

mrjsiah

Where did you see i said you use the race card i was responding to someone responding to me . Most of the time i take when i do make it on here and i do take time to respond is when race is brought into the situation. Yes sandusky has a problem even a blind man can see that yes we have to deal with it, Over and over you come on here and make things up please explain why know matter what goes on you seem to scream entitlement as if you are the only who works.We pay taxes like you thats if you do ! You would like everyone to believe that all of erie county is crime free other than sandusky, you would like everyone to believe no one works in sandusky . Just what do you have against sandusky anyway it can be a story about somebdy saving a whole family from a fire or something some how all the people involved is on entitlements and you will find something negative to say. Is your life that bad .

donutshopguy

mrjsiah,

You failed to answer the questions. Come on Mr. Criminal Justice major.

I believe entitlement is a major factor in the decay of morals and personal responsibility. Entitlement is the food that feeds the criminal and drug fire in Sandusky. I believe Sandusky is the center point of entitlement in the county.

Hopefully that clarifies my stand for you.

Now what about you. Please give us your educated outlook on how the problem, that a blind man can see, started, grew and prospered in Sandusky.

donutshopguy

Mutt,

I totally agree its cumulative. My belief is that we are in our third generation of family entitlement and starting our fourth. We have thrown billions of dollars at a problem with minimal success. Free education, free food, free housing, free transportation, free utilities and free cell phones have not solved the problem.

What group of people do criminals center their attacks against? The entitlement crowd? Why's that? No self worth, no responsibility or no education are a few reasons. I've done my time trying to help but some people are accustom through generations to expecting value without effort.

So who do you want to blame for 45 kids not graduating? The people who provide the free education?

I now believe in a "hand up" not a "hand out". You have to prove yourself first before I participate. The old way of "free" did not work and hasn't for generations.

You want to get rid of crime and drugs? Stop the entitlement in the county. Those under the "entitlement spell" will move to the free money and the criminals will follow.

DGMutley

Donut,

There is a simple answer to crime and it doesn't cost us a penny. In fact, the opposite, it will save us billions. Insist on high school graduation and get rid of the lifetime felony tag. Neither cost anything and completely turn around crime and poverty.

donutshopguy

Mutt,

Please explain "insist on high school graduation". Are you suggestion we dummy-down so all can graduate? Are you suggesting kids beyond 18 years old must stay until they graduate?

On the lifetime felony tag are you saying murderers and child rapists should not have to carry their previous misdeeds?

I don't follow how these two events will completely turn around crime and poverty. Please expand your thoughts as to enlighten some of us who are suspect of the claim.

DGMutley

Donut,

I'm not suggesting dumbing down graduation requirements. Yes, a kid should be able to continue in the school system until he graduates regardless of his age. No dropout permissions.

The biggest problem ex-cons face in getting a job is having to declare that they are felons. If they've done their time that should be the end of it. Murderers, rapists, and molesters excluded.

Job skills turn around crime and poverty.

donutshopguy

Mutt,

I agree with education as the tool out of entitlement. But how do you force someone at 18 to finish high school?

Don't agree with the dropping of the felony label. Especially for your three above mentioned classification. The public should be aware of the above mentioned ex-cons living and working in their community.

Education and job skills are a personal responsibility. The vehicle to obtain both are available to all young children by their community. Whether they use those opportunities is up to them. You can provide the opportunity, you can't pre-establish the outcome.

DGMutley

Donut,

-- More than 30 percent of Americans are arrested by age 23.

-- One of 15 Americans will be incarcerated in their lifetime.

-- 68 percent of state prison inmates are dropouts.

How bad does it have to get before we are willing to graduate every kid with an education and job skills?

How bad does it have to get before we are willing to employ someone with a felony?

We need to throw away the rule book that hasn't worked for the last 50 years.

BytheBy

"...willing to graduate every kid with an education and job skill?"

How do you force them to participate? They have no inclination to better themselves.
Your argument is weak.

donutshopguy

Mutt,

Does having a speeding ticket falls under you 30% arrest number?

Being in jail does not make you a felon or a repeat offender.

I believe 68% of state prison inmates are dropouts. What percentage of Americans are in prison right now ? Are we talking 1% or 5% ?

How do you graduate every kid? Do we put them in education prison? What value is a degree everyone is given no matter of ability? Why would any business value this degree?

There are businesses that hire felons. Might not be the greatest job but jobs are available when business is good. During hard times businesses have the ability to hire the best of the people available. Felons are not always the best available.

Our community provides a good free public education if you choose to accept the work needed to obtain that degree. It's our responsibility to provide the opportunity not predetermine the results. Personal responsibility for your education and being a law abiding citizen are up to the individual.

DGMutley

there's more,

-- Dropouts make up nearly half the heads of households on welfare.

-- In the U.S., high school dropouts commit about 75 percent of crimes.

-- America’s high school graduation rate ranks 19th in the world. (Forty years ago, we were number one.)

-- Dropouts from the Class of 2010 alone will cost the nation more than $337 billion in lost wages over the course of their lifetimes.

-- If the United States‘ likely dropouts from the Class of 2006 had graduated, the nation could have saved more than $17 billion in Medicaid and expenditures for uninsured health care over the course of those young people‘s lifetimes.

NOBODY WANTS TO BE A DROPOUT.

So, how do we force kids to stay in school? That's pretty simple really, we make graduation mandatory. We change the age of compulsory education from 6 to 18 to 6 to 21 or older if enrolled. We do away with dropout permissions entirely--currently a kid can dropout in Ohio as young as 14.

We dump Special Ed and instead have subject tutors available to all kids that need tutoring. Nobody likes the Special Ed tag.

We subsidize industry to work with high schools in OJT programs--here is where we leave no kid behind. (In other words we pay kids to stay in school.)

And, finally, we allow dropouts regardless of age to re-enroll in high school to get their education and job skills.

allrhetoricanyway

Instead of taking out your calculator to define the difference between Sandusky and Detroit..(yawn)Why can't you just believe in PERSONAL responsibility..down to entitlements and blah, blah! The worm killed another human..HE DID IT!! Not the hospital, NOT the SPD, not his worthless DADDY?? HE DID IT!! The oxygen-thief needs to get strapped to a table, have the IV inserted then let them press the buttons!! Let the rest of his "family" watch and his "friends",and then picture their own futures!! I believe that a TRUE example has yet to be part of this picture! Now it's TIME!!

donutshopguy

allrhetoricanway,

You wish to be specific to this exact crime. I have no problem with that or the punishment your prescribe.

Some of us are looking at a bigger picture. We are discussing the moral breakdown in our society that this specific incident springs from.

How did it start? Can it be stopped? What works and doesn't work ?

allrhetoricanyway

Wow! I am sure that I would PRESCRIBE (subscribe) to a much LARGER and surely more INTELLIGENT group of individuals before I had a real meaningful discussion regarding the ill and decline of our city. This comment section is truly to release your "knee-jerk" reaction to the atrocities that happen everyday in this small-minded, well-versed splay of mindless drivel! To get to the heart ....will NEVER happen here! Everyone is already stuck deep in their muddy shoes and will not walk up to an Officer to shake their hand, walk in to court and ask what they can do, will not risk their LIVES or lively-hood to make a change!! So you RICKROSS can talk till you go mute...but you'll NEVER make a change on this SECTION of NOTHING!

BytheBy

You consider yourself one of the "intelligent" people?

My knee-jerk reaction is to laugh and laugh and laugh at you.

allrhetoricanyway

Ditto! My example well displayed..Thank You! More mindless drivel!

DGMutley

For some their only interest in education is voting down school levies and building bigger prisons with lifetime sentencing. It is lifetime when we get out and repeat and are re-incarcerated.

DGMutley

Donut,

My replies are in [].
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Does having a speeding ticket falls under you 30% arrest number? [no traffic]

Being in jail does not make you a felon or a repeat offender. [stats are for state and Federal prisons--I don't think misdemeanor offenders go to state or Federal prisons]

I believe 68% of state prison inmates are dropouts. What percentage of Americans are in prison right now ? Are we talking 1% or 5% ? [less than 1%]

How do you graduate every kid? Do we put them in education prison? What value is a degree everyone is given no matter of ability? Why would any business value this degree? [we pay kids to graduate] [some will end up in juvy--they already do] [degree isn't dumbed down] [degree isn't dumbed down]

There are businesses that hire felons. Might not be the greatest job but jobs are available when business is good. During hard times businesses have the ability to hire the best of the people available. Felons are not always the best available. [what a kid does young shouldn't haunt him forever] [don't underestimate the ability of felons]

Our community provides a good free public education if you choose to accept the work needed to obtain that degree. It's our responsibility to provide the opportunity not predetermine the results. Personal responsibility for your education and being a law abiding citizen are up to the individual. [When a remedy to crime and poverty doesn't cost us anything and can save us billions--trillions, it's worthy of trying.]

White Bigot

I blame George Bush.