Boehner says debt limit should be part of talks

House Speaker John Boehner insisted on Friday that any deal with President Barack Obama to avert the so-called fiscal cliff must include lower tax rates, eliminating special interest loopholes and reining in government-benefit programs.
Associated Press
Nov 10, 2012

"2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform," Boehner said.

Boehner and Obama have taken the initial steps in high-stakes negotiations over how to deal with expiring Bush-era tax cuts and automatic spending cuts to defense and domestic programs that economists warn could plunge the nation into another recession.

Boehner, Obama and Senate leaders face a Jan. 2 deadline to reach an agreement or at least come up with a framework to deal with the issue early next year.

Boehner expressed a degree of optimism about resolving the issues and ensuring that his sometimes reluctant GOP rank and file will back any deal.

"When the president and I have come to an agreement, there's been no problem getting it passed in the House," Boehner said.

The speaker declined to discuss specifics on deficit targets or what tax loopholes to eliminate though he cited both corporate and individual.

"I don't want to box myself in. I don't want to box anyone else in," he said.

Boehner indicated that increasing the nation's borrowing authority, which was a divisive issue in August 2011 talks, should be part of any talks in the coming weeks on avoiding the fiscal cliff. The government has said the nation won't reach the debt limit until the spring.

"It's an issue that's going to have to be addressed, sooner rather than later," he said.

Boehner said he had a brief, cordial conversation with Obama earlier in the week and reiterated that the president needs to lead on the negotiations.

Democrats have resisted including entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security in any deficit-cutting deal. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said earlier this week they were unwilling to make changes in Social Security.

Boehner insisted that the programs need to be on the table.

"It's not like there is money in Social Security and Medicare" trust fund, Boehner said. "This has to be dealt with."

The Ohio Republican, reflecting the sentiment of his caucus, said increasing the maximum 35 percent tax rate on high-income earners cannot be part of the deal. Boehner did signal that he was open to eliminating loopholes.

"The problem with raising tax rates on wealthy Americans is that more than half of them are small business owners," Boehner said. "Raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want."

The Republican leader acknowledged that his party faces several roadblocks after Obama won a second term and the GOP lost seats in both the House and the Senate.

"It's clear that as a political party we've got some work to do," he said.

Republicans fared poorly with Hispanic voters. The fastest growing minority group went heavily for Democrats, backing Obama by more than 70 percent. Boehner signaled a willingness to tackle immigration legislation next year.

"What I'm talking about is a common sense, step-by-step approach, would secure our borders, allow us to enforce the laws, and fix a broken immigration system," he said. "But again on an issue this big, the president has to lead."

 

Comments

the office cat

huh?

shucks

@cat
Does it feel like you came into the middle of a movie?

goofus

I believe I'll have another cocktail!!!

coasterfan

An excellent editorial from wannabe Republican strategist Eric Garland, as to why the GOP lost the election. He is a well-to-do, middle-aged white man - essentially, the very type of person the GOP tries to attract, yet they managed to alienate even him. A must read:

http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/1...

Contango

@ coasterfan:

Mr. Ted Cruz, the U.S. Senate Repub candidate and TEA Party favorite won big in TX.

Potential 2016 Repub POTUS candidate?

The man is a champion debater; no need for a teleprompter!

Libertarianism IS the "third way."

The hollowness and deceit of the socialist lie is on full display in Europe with high unemployment, fiscal failures, austerity protests and general strikes.

The useful idiots would do best to enjoy Mr. Obama's pyrrhic victory.

Where will the Dems find another good lookin' minority "empty suit" for 2016?

Recall the old German saying: Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...

John Harville

Mr. Third Party is getting less than 1% - no Libertarian convention..

shucks

@ contango

George Bush has eloquently said it better.

http://youtu.be/8Ux3DKxxFoM

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

Pres. Bush is old news.

How about that man-crush on Jesus?

shucks

@ contango

Wonderful!!! Would you like to get to know Him ?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

Did Jesus die for the Klingons? You're govt. paid to know:

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?v...

Talk about mixing mythologies. LOL

shucks

@ contango

What government do you belong to?

"Forward Soviet"?

Klingons don't get a break.

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

Wasn't Pres. Obama's campaign slogan "Forward"?

"Forward Soviet!" was a popular saying in the USSR.

Isn't State centralized planning good?

So God didn't die on Earth for the sins of Klingons?

shucks

.@ con

"Forward Soviet!" was a pretty popular saying of yours, wasn't it? So it's not real clear if you are an American.

Don't you think it's a little silly to entertain the idea of Klingons?

coasterfan

The GOP just lost the election in a smack-down, in which they lost the electoral vote by a landslide of more than 100. Their candidate lost every single one of the nearly dozen swing states he needed to win, and the popular vote by more than 3 million.

So, it matters not if Republicans wish to deny that Obama won in a landslide, and whether or not the vote was a "mandate" for Obama's tax plan. What IS clear is that there definitely is NOT any mandate for the Republican point of view, because they LOST the election. As losers, they don't get to call the shots in the upcoming budget debate. Obama campaigned on a platform of raising taxes for the wealthy, and a clear majority, by voting for him, voted in favor of that plan.

John Harville

"Obamacare is the law of the land." - John Boehner

Contango

@ coasterfan:

No mandate. 50% of the electorate voted for someone else other than Mr. Obama.

Repubs lost simply due to the Dems practicing old-fashioned "get out the vote" Chicago machine-style politics.

The corruption of the stench of a Tammany Hall is alive and well and was rolled out nationally.

The Dems got the useful idiots to the polls with the propaganda that Mr. Obama was Santa Claus and Mr. Romney was the Grinch.

Who in the h*ll is EG and why would anyone other than an Obama cult of personality sychophant care what he thinks?

"Well-to-do"? It ain't what you make, it's what you keep.

And the kleptocrats in DC want more and more and more in order to buy votes with "cash and prizes" for the useful idiots. It is unsustainable.

John Harville

51-49 is the current figure. And that's not of the electorate... only of the people voting.
Your man Gary Johnson is now falling below 1% so won't get a convention.

Tammany Hall? That was NY. Chicago was Daley.

Paul Ryan said GOP lost because they underestimated the 'urban turnout'. Guess the GOP just didn't get the suppression thing worked out.

Contango

@ John Harville:

Talkin' Ted Cruz' libertarian bent.

Where'd ya get the idea that the Libertarian Party doesn't have conventions?

Tammany Hall's stench was little different from Chicago's machine politics.

Who cares what Rep. Ryan said.

John Harville

65% of the Electoral College IS A MANDATE. 8 of 9 BATTLEGROUND states IS A MANDATE. 55-45 in the Senate IS A MANDATE. Gaining 5 seats in the House IS A MANDATE.
And how is GOTV 'Chicago-style'?
@Coasterfan... they just can't face that they LOST and that the losses for next year empower them for this year.

Randy_Marsh

So let me get this straight, The popular went 50/ 49 and the electoral went 65% and you expect it to be a mandate from the masses? Thats a little dumb if you ask anyone. Guess you yelled it was a mandate as well for Bush?

John Harville

Randy. uh no. Bush didn't get the popular but he did win the Supreme Court in 2000. In 2004 he declared his own mandate and put together a coalition that included women and latinos and swiftboaters. Of course his Congress still overwhelmingly was old white men until 2006.
Congress has changed its complexion in the New Year - record numbers of women, people of color, other minorities, and other 'persuasions' - and the old white men in elephant suits are running scared. All that's left is personal attacks. The simple solution seems to be to let their states secede - which removes them from Congress, reinflates the treasury since the government no longer will be taking care of their roads and bridges, their defense, their tired, their poor... "I wish I was in the land of teabags..."

Contango

@ John Harville:

If Mr. Gore woulda carried his home state of TN, the FL results woulda been immaterial.

Mr. Lincoln’s War helped to settle the issue of secession.

kURTje

Right coasterfan. Really felt his #3 statement spoke volumes. imo. selfish childish actions/attitudes. They are out of touch.

Contango

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John Harville

@con... at least you admit you are posting a 'rumor'.
And you all were worried about the homosexuals in the military keeping it in their pants.
Do we really have a military that prosecutes adultery?

John Harville

@since the military prosecutes adultery, is McCain in danger. He was still 'in' when he began his 'relationship' with his present wife while still married to his first wife.

goofus

There is a definite problem in Coasterfan's diatribe blabble!
This is America, we believe that even skidrow bums deserve a second chance, let alone Obozo. Why all the talk and petitions of secession by various states? We have a democracy, no amount of victory should halt the opinions of the other side. Frankly coaster and his minions scare the bejesus out of me, but then again I'm heavily armed and old so who cares.

John Harville

'Succession'. If you're gonna talk about it or sign petitions for it, at least know how to spell 'SECESSION'.

The Big Dog's back

goof, nobody ever denied that 21% of the country is racist. But 21% doesn't cut it. It's called a MINORITY!

kURTje

Right......heavily armed. Next you'll want to challenge my Marine Corps. "Go ahead - make my day."

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