Boehner says debt limit should be part of talks

House Speaker John Boehner insisted on Friday that any deal with President Barack Obama to avert the so-called fiscal cliff must include lower tax rates, eliminating special interest loopholes and reining in government-benefit programs.
Associated Press
Nov 10, 2012

"2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform," Boehner said.

Boehner and Obama have taken the initial steps in high-stakes negotiations over how to deal with expiring Bush-era tax cuts and automatic spending cuts to defense and domestic programs that economists warn could plunge the nation into another recession.

Boehner, Obama and Senate leaders face a Jan. 2 deadline to reach an agreement or at least come up with a framework to deal with the issue early next year.

Boehner expressed a degree of optimism about resolving the issues and ensuring that his sometimes reluctant GOP rank and file will back any deal.

"When the president and I have come to an agreement, there's been no problem getting it passed in the House," Boehner said.

The speaker declined to discuss specifics on deficit targets or what tax loopholes to eliminate though he cited both corporate and individual.

"I don't want to box myself in. I don't want to box anyone else in," he said.

Boehner indicated that increasing the nation's borrowing authority, which was a divisive issue in August 2011 talks, should be part of any talks in the coming weeks on avoiding the fiscal cliff. The government has said the nation won't reach the debt limit until the spring.

"It's an issue that's going to have to be addressed, sooner rather than later," he said.

Boehner said he had a brief, cordial conversation with Obama earlier in the week and reiterated that the president needs to lead on the negotiations.

Democrats have resisted including entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security in any deficit-cutting deal. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said earlier this week they were unwilling to make changes in Social Security.

Boehner insisted that the programs need to be on the table.

"It's not like there is money in Social Security and Medicare" trust fund, Boehner said. "This has to be dealt with."

The Ohio Republican, reflecting the sentiment of his caucus, said increasing the maximum 35 percent tax rate on high-income earners cannot be part of the deal. Boehner did signal that he was open to eliminating loopholes.

"The problem with raising tax rates on wealthy Americans is that more than half of them are small business owners," Boehner said. "Raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want."

The Republican leader acknowledged that his party faces several roadblocks after Obama won a second term and the GOP lost seats in both the House and the Senate.

"It's clear that as a political party we've got some work to do," he said.

Republicans fared poorly with Hispanic voters. The fastest growing minority group went heavily for Democrats, backing Obama by more than 70 percent. Boehner signaled a willingness to tackle immigration legislation next year.

"What I'm talking about is a common sense, step-by-step approach, would secure our borders, allow us to enforce the laws, and fix a broken immigration system," he said. "But again on an issue this big, the president has to lead."

 

Comments

mikel

"Ohio families receiving food stamps could get an unwelcome surprise come January: $50 less every month in assistance...The average food-stamp recipient receives $138 per person, per month" this is a reduction from the fed gov't.

wow! $138 per person per family. so, a family of 5 gets $650+ per month on their food card plus, during school year, would be eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch! and people wonder why our gov't is broke.

today's toldeo blade

LadyC

A couple of you were doing some figuring on what gets taxed for the business owners. You forgot to factor in the depreciation deductions, that allow for the building and equipment used in the business. These can add up to pretty hefty savings for the owner. Not saying they should get the snot taxed out of them, but there are still pretty favorable treatments for them. And tax credits as well. I think a big problem is the attitudes coming from both sides. And it isnt all about number crunching. Numbers can be crunched every which way. The left and the right are battling each other, in fear of "socialism" or "fascism." Employers vs. employees is not a good thing for any business. To the owners and CEOs--talk to employees, listen to what they have to say. They are a valuable resource, not another number on a financial report. And employees--just because you punch a clock doesn't mean the place owes you everything. Do an honest day's work. The disparity and disassociation is what will drive our businesses and our country into the ground. We need to get together!

Randy_Marsh

Rumors of the VAT comming, Get ready to bend over.

Contango

Some Biblical "proof" that Pres. Obama is the Anti-Christ:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/s...

shucks

Nonsense from some crazy church.

http://objectiveministries.org/s...

"Landover Baptist claims to be a church. Moreover, they claim to be the only church in America that understands the Bible! In fact, neither is true. Landover Baptist is a fraud. A joke."

John Harville

The antichrist is not mentioned in the Bible.. One writer mentions the 'antichrists among us' - meaning at the time he was writing.

Contango

@ John Harville:

Better communicate with 4shizzle he brought up the AC.

He must think it's real.

John Harville

An antichrist is mentioned five times in 1JOhn and 2John and names, among others the Jews AND - listen closely - those who believe Jesus is a separate being from God and not part of the Trinity (that would be Mormons)
The same scriptures also state the Antichrist does not appear until after Christs' second appearance/coming on Earth.
Do you know/have you seen something the rest of us haven't? Has the New Jerusalem descended into Missouri (as the Mormons predict)?
Did we miss the Second Coming, the Rapture, and Armageddon?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

So some Christians are "crazy"? How can you tell the difference?

shucks

Do you really want to know?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

If necessary, ask your invisible friends and get back to me.

shucks

You didn't(want to) understand the question, did you?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

And you answered my question with a question. Your point?

shucks

@
contango

So according to you, there is no afterlife?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

And how do you know with 100% metaphysical certainty that there is one?

Has someone "come back" and told you about it?

John Harville

Me.

Randy_Marsh

Not to dive into the religious/afterlife deal too deeply But according to the string theory M,There are alot of unknowns and dimensions that arent accounted for which could lead to the interpretation of a afterlife just not in the same form as we now hold.When the dimension of time is introduced along with 20 others alot can be guessed at but will never be truly known. As for concious retainment of this life alot of resonance theorys have been put forward and are looked at as quasi-science but yet have to be disproven.

John Harville

unknowns and dimensions... like all the individual planets Romney and other Mormons will inherit and rule?
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the assurance of things unseen.
"For unbelievers, no proof is sufficient; for believers, no proof is necessary."

Randy_Marsh

@john
Unknowns, As in theoretical physics. A faith in the outcome of a theory is considered science to some degree wouldnt you agree?

shucks

@ con

Here's the deal. FIRST, you answer this question--What's your interpretation of life, death and existence ?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

A. Depends.

Now answer my simple question: Why is that Christian church crazy in it's interpretation?

shucks

@ con

Bad answer.

Explain.

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

Honest? And this from someone who has been playing word games and dodging the question? LOL

"Depends" means depends.

Subjectivity: It depends upon each individual's interpretation and meaning.

Some make up their own mind and some like you need their minds made up for them.

"Objective Christianity"??? LMAO!!!What an oxymoron.

You used a web link and never answered the question.

Good to know that they have a better link to your invisible friends than you.

shucks

@ con
It's good to know that you can laugh.

After you get done laughing, answer this question--What's YOUR interpretation of life, death and existence ?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

Asked and answered.

shucks

@ con

Dodged and unanswered

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

And your non-answer to my first question was a link to "Objective Christianity"?

Contango

@ 4shizzle:

"Bad answer"?

Typical Christian, dividing the world into good and bad categories.

A carryover from Zoroastrianism.

John Harville

Because the AntiChrist of which you wish to claim is Obama does not exist anywhere in the Bible. The term is only used five times and then to speak of contemporaneous 'antichrists among us' at the time of the writing - with the exception of the evil one who will appear AFTER the Second Coming of Christ. Truly Christian churches know this and thus never preach it...unless you know of a sighting of Jesus!

Contango

@ Randy_Marsh:

String theory has too many assumptions. First assume "X."

All "knowledge" is ultimately based on assumptions.

We know nothing directly, but only through metaphors which in themselves are made up of assumptions.

And then, we use metaphors to explain metaphors.

All info comes through the five senses which are flawed. Heck everyone sees colors differently - no one sees the same "shade."

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