Obama wins

President Barack Obama has won Ohio again, capturing the swing state after a hard-fought battle with Republican Mitt Romney.
Associated Press
Nov 6, 2012

Obama, who also won Ohio in 2008, claims the swing state's 18 electoral votes.

Both sides poured major time and resources into the battleground state that has been among the nation's most contested in recent presidential elections. It was considered pivotal for both.

No Republican has won the White House without Ohio. The last president elected despite losing Ohio was Democrat John F. Kennedy in 1960.

Ohio has been site of much of the advertising spending by the campaigns and outside supporters. It also was among the most-visited states by the campaigns.

In addition to Ohio, Obama captured battleground states Iowa and Colorado on his way to the 270 electoral votes he needed.

Obama will again be dealing with a divided Congress. Democrats maintained control of the Senate and Republicans likely will again control the House. Among the most pressing matters is the so-called fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts scheduled to hit in January. Economists have warned that if they aren't averted, the nation could face another recession.

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John Harville

@Verdict I call BS on that. "nor prohibit free expression thereof". If you have to stand in a group in a room where a Muslim begins a chant, is that person exercising 'free expression' and will you stand quietly?
"free expression" means you or I or anyone is free to express our religion but not to force our 'free expression' of religion on any others.
I don't know anyone who has a coniption if someone says a prayer in a public place unless they preface it with 'bow our heads and pray' or insist chldren say a prayer before lunch (I know some fundamentalist Protestants who got really upset when their Catholic teacher had her students recite a Hail Mary before going to lunch).
In brief... you can pray anytime anywhere... and a Muslim can pray in front of his mosque...right? Has anyone ever stopped anyone from praying before a meal in a restaurant.
Has America ever forced anyone to obey any religion's doctrine? YES. In 1956 when the motto changed from E Pluribus Unum to "In God We Trust" during the Red Scare.

verdict

How does an inscription on a coin force you to obey a religious doctrine? It does not do so by any stretch of the imagination.
You are only proving my point.
And I was right. You do not see it even as you, yourself, are doing it.

You are making it like "I would ask you to join me in prayer" equates to "You are hereby order to.." Do you not have the presence of mind to merely take it as "Join us for a moment, in the same spirit" regardless of not believing in their God?

If, by "I call BS," you are referring to the story..I can link the YouTube video of the Hawaii local news report. Atheist commenters harped on it, actually..as if it helped their cause somehow.

John Harville

"we need to have a revolution".
Now "Donald Trump has deleted some of the Twitter tirade he posted following President Barack Obama's re-election..."

Randy_Marsh

"Revolution" was ron pauls campaign slogan, So you want to arrest him as well? Thats just begging for a tolitarian government. You people wonder why the rest of us think the left is scary?

John Harville

There is 'revolution' by legislation and 'revolution' by "marching on Washington and take back our country"
But one needs some finesse to understand the finer points between revolving and revolting...

Randy_Marsh

John
You are arguing against your own rights to express yourself, That doesnt sound all that smart considering they are YOUR rights as well.

John Harville

Actually I'm arguing FOR my right to express myself - RESPONSIBLY. I'm arguing for the same right for you. I know not if you have children, but suppose you do and your 15yo son called you wife a gdfstupidb! Would you allow that as his right of free expression?
Every right has a responsibility or two or three. You have the right to own a gun, but if you use it to kill another person you will be responsible for the injury/death of that person.
Again, Tim McVeigh had the right to express himself.
As a famous justice once said (wish I could remember who) said something to the effect "your right ends and mine begins when you fist encounters my nose".
The First Amendment says CONGRESS shall make no law ABRIDGING speech - no prior censorship (you can't keep me from saying something because you think it will cause a riot) - but makes no prohibition on punishing the consequences of such speech.
It's the same here. You can post anything. But the moderators can remove it without 'abridging' your right to say it.
The First only prohibits CONGRESS from abridging - it says nothing about the states..
Why do I bother?

Randy_Marsh

John
There are nuts everywhere calling for this or that, Should it be censored. I dont think so. Sanduskysteve wanted him to be locked up indefinatly without bail for voicing a opinion, Do you agree? Seriously, Think about it. Throw him in jail for speaking a opinion?
Dont get me wrong if you hurt others prosecute them, Give them a fair trial and work from there. This drone kill, Indefinate incarceration and the federal government can do anything is pleases crap is going way to far.

verdict

John. "Veterans for Ron Paul" had their "March on Washington" demonstration and it was merely a verbal demonstration. Very shortly after, Obama signed HR 347 which effectively outlawed protests in Washington, D.C.

sanduskysteve

Actually what was said here is that he is calling for a revolution. That's a little more strong than marching on washington. Freedom of speech does not bother me - but there are limits to it. Try to yell FIRE in a theater and see how well your freedom of speech works out.

The Big Dog's back

I would be OK with it winnie. trump should be declared an enemy of the State.

mikel

stock market reacts to the election by dropping 200+ points! welcome to the new era of fiscal disaster!!

John Harville

Yeah... Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers are really P'd O about that return on their investments...

John Harville

World stock markets rose today after President Barack Obama won a fiercely-contested race for re-election, allowing him to refocus his attention on issues other than the campaign.

Stock markets had been in a state of suspended animation throughout the week as investors waited for the cliffhanger election campaign to end."
-Irish Examiner.

Contango

@ John Harville:

Better re-check the world markets.

http://www.cnbc.com/

John Harville

@Contango "European shares reversed course on Wednesday to close lower, after data showed weak German industrial production. European indexes had rallied in the morning session after U.S. President Barack Obama won re-election."
thanks for making my point!!

Contango

@ John Harville:

Where they finished is all that matters. Opinions on the reasons for market reaction are a dime a dozen.

John Harville

Mikel.. if you'd read you'd not have to create 'spin'. It's more over concert about what the lameduck Congress will do about the 'fiscal cliff'...

"U.S. stocks have been hammered in mid-day trading as growing fears over ‘fiscal cliff’ and deteriorating economic environment of euro zone economy

Read more [IF YOU DARE]: http://thestockmarketwatch.com/m...

mikel

johnny, led by the incompetent person in the oval office! down over 250+. NO one has faith of the american economy as long as the person in the oval office is in charge.

invest your money in foreign companies as the american companies will be moving......

John Harville

Mikey!!! Faith is feeble because they know what this lameasp CONGRESS did a year ago. The Congress - Republicans - made a deal and now (SURPRISE) they want to welch. When Moody's cut the rating a year ago it was stated the reason was because of CONGRESS. But, but, butt then you can't hate.

mikel

the deal they made was for the potus to make cuts. surprise! the person in the oval office has done no such thing and continues his handout of tax dollars to the poor money suckers. it really is simple johnny boy, if the potus holds up his end of the deal, which he won't because he is a bigger liar than congressman, then congress will react positively. but, don't expect that to happen because he now owes all of his slaves.

verdict

Dude. Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill passed the House in a landslide (with bipartisan support). Senate Democrat leader Harry Reid killed the bill on arrival. I could go on about the other 30+ economic/job bills they passed and the Senate killed, but..I think it is a lost cause at this point.

kURTje

Keep posting haters.............Elected NOT Selected.

verdict

Obama was not selected?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...
Are you sure?

kURTje

Oh; mikel don't be so bitter. Invest in Tata Motors. Somender Singh's patent was purchased by them. Look for the Nano to appear here in roughly 3years. Also AutoZone stocks have been great for me too.

Julie R.

Like Obama or not, that excellent speech he gave afterwards will go down in the history books.

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He is great at "Speaches"

John Harville

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