Obama wins

President Barack Obama has won Ohio again, capturing the swing state after a hard-fought battle with Republican Mitt Romney.
Associated Press
Nov 6, 2012

Obama, who also won Ohio in 2008, claims the swing state's 18 electoral votes.

Both sides poured major time and resources into the battleground state that has been among the nation's most contested in recent presidential elections. It was considered pivotal for both.

No Republican has won the White House without Ohio. The last president elected despite losing Ohio was Democrat John F. Kennedy in 1960.

Ohio has been site of much of the advertising spending by the campaigns and outside supporters. It also was among the most-visited states by the campaigns.

In addition to Ohio, Obama captured battleground states Iowa and Colorado on his way to the 270 electoral votes he needed.

Obama will again be dealing with a divided Congress. Democrats maintained control of the Senate and Republicans likely will again control the House. Among the most pressing matters is the so-called fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts scheduled to hit in January. Economists have warned that if they aren't averted, the nation could face another recession.

Comments

Kimo

Take the Bush Iraq war and Bush tax cuts out of the debt and it would be a lot easier to manage.

Obama inherited those two gems; denial does not solve any problems.

Randy_Marsh

Kimo
Denial doesnt take care of the problems either. We are on our way over a fiscal cliff because spending has continued and nothing is being done about it. Facts are these, The spending cannot last forever and somthing has got to give, It will during the next 4 years and then you and me will see a re-enactment of Greece when the gove starts cutting off the freebies.

4shizzle

Kimo
Yes, the Repubs don't want to talk about that.

Randy_Marsh

4shizzle
Blaming bush only last so long, Obama has done nothing to get rid of the debt. Like all of bush policys he has just expanded it. Get ready to pay more and see your money funneled into QE3.

4shizzle

Marsh

It takes a long time to clean up after an elephant parade.

Randy_Marsh

4shizzle
Digging a deeper hole isnt cleaning up.

4shizzle

marsh
The Repubs put the USA in a deep hole.

Randy_Marsh

4shizzle
so keep digging? That isnt a very good fiscal model and the blame only last for 4 years, Its Obama's baby now. "I promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term" They spent 10 trillion, Obama spent 5 trillion. By the time of the end of his second term they project 20 trillion, Who is going to get us out of THAT hole?

4shizzle

marsh
Don't twist my hyperbole.
You got it the first time.
(maybe)

sanduskysteve

The debt is created by each year's deficit. But balancing the budget won't reduce the debt - only the deficit.

Randy_Marsh

Dont worry, We arent going to lose the debt. The spending will continue and you will have to pay they are making sure of that. Austerity is comming whether you want it or not, The spending has to stop.

4shizzle
Contango

@ Kimo:

The Dems don't want to talk about their support of the Iraq Resolution.

Pres. Obama agreed in 2010 to an extention of all the "Bush tax cuts" - he owns it.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

And if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their butts on the ground.

John Harville

Obama inherited THREE gems - you forgot unfunded Medicare Advantage and the lovely 'donut hole'. Fortunately ObamaREALLYcareS is filling the gap.

Randy_Marsh

Filling the hole with a promise and debt isnt much help.

There you go again

Now that the election is over I say "Obama phones for everyone!"

John Harville

You can repeatrepeatrepeatrepeat that lie here as much as you want as much as you want as much as you want - it still won't become truth.

Centauri

Donald Trump is really ticked off. Donald is now suggesting a revolution. Who will join him? I won't. The Republicans have only themselves to blame for picking somebody like rich man Romney. Romney lost in his home state. What does that tell you about Romney? If the rich corporations and rich people would have picked somebody like Ron Paul and/or Gary Johnson who would have represented all of the people, then maybe the Republicans would have won. The Republicans nominated some rich person to represent the elite, better than thou people who would ignore the working class and common people, the other 99%.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...

Now Trunp suggests a revolution? How? Is Donald having a bad hair day?

http://www.manolith.com/2012/11/...

Kimo

Donald Trump inhaled way too much hairspray; needs to give up the combover do.......

sanduskysteve

donald trump should be arrested and help indefinitly without charges or bail.

Randy_Marsh

SanduskySteve
Why? Isnt he as a american citizen allowed to express himself without fear of being hassled? Its sentences such as yours that scare those of us that know history.

Centauri

Maybe SanduskySteve is thinking about that militia group up in Michigan who the Federal government said wanted to overthrow the government? I look for Holder to stage more raids against the citizens. I look for Holder to start arresting people for comments posted on the various forums. Obama should get rid of Holder.

sanduskysteve

I believe what you wrote was he is calling for a revelution. A little of a riot than an organization to protest - at least the last revolution was that way.

John Harville

Timothy McVeigh "expressed himself".
Occupy Wall Street had the right of 'expression' and 'redress' without fear of being hassled?
David Koresh "expressed himself".

Contango

@ sanduskysteve:

Why?

sanduskysteve

attempting to incite a riot comes to mind.

Contango

@ sanduskysteve:

Where was there evidence of a potential riot?

So you'd be OK with putting outspoken political opponents in jail?

Randy_Marsh

Sanduskysteve
From what i have read he said "March on washington to right the wrongs" I didnt hear "Riot". I have heard that from Obama supporters though if he didnt win. That freedom of speech thing really bothers the left doesnt it?

John Harville

Left not bothered by any freedoms... as long as exercisers don't consider the freedom 'carte blanche' with no responsibility attached.
Example: Hamilton and Burr exercised their rights to keep and bear arms. Hamilton died. Burr died in infamy.
Example: First Amendment ALSO gives freedom "PEACABLY" to assemble and petition government for redress of grievances. Somehow "riot in the streets" doesn't fit peacable. No matter, the peaceable Occupy movement was driven out.
For the Right... example Fireland Patriots... First Amendment only applies to those who agree with them - as their leader said.

verdict

@ John Harville. I call hypocrisy on that one.
The Left consistently tries to twist the 1st amendment to fit their agenda in regards to censorship of prayer (and whatnot) in public places. They tout the "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" but they consistently trounce the second part..which states "nor prohibit the free exercise thereof."

I watched a guy start ranting during a recent State Senate proceeding in Hawaii when they opened with a prayer. He stood up and tried to talk over the speaker and would not stop until he spotted someone coming towards him. They asked him to leave and he refused, so they physically removed him.
Explain to me why this guy could not just wait until he was called on to speak and, at that time, address his concern in a less disturbing manner?

Don't try to sell us on The Left is "all for freedom." Most of them do not even fully understand freedom, it would seem. They have a conniption fit if someone says a prayer in a public place. Such are delusional and of an unstable mind..when they assert that saying a prayer in a public place equates to establishing a State Religion.
Has America ever forced anyone to obey any religion's doctrine? No? Then "Whhyy soo SERIOUSSss!?"

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