Obama seems to have early vote lead in key states

President Barack Obama heads toward Election Day with an apparent lead over Republican Mitt Romney among early voters in key states that could decide the election.
Associated Press
Nov 4, 2012

 

Obama's advantage, however, isn't as big as the one he had over John McCain four years ago, giving Romney's campaign hope that the former Massachusetts governor can erase the gap when people vote on Tuesday.

More than 27 million people already have voted in 34 states and the District of Columbia. No votes will be counted until Election Day but several battleground states are releasing the party affiliation of people who have voted early.

So far, Democratic voters outnumber Republicans in Florida, Iowa, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio — five states that could decide the election, if they voted the same way. Republicans have the edge in Colorado, which Obama won in 2008.

Obama dominated early voting in 2008, building up such big leads in Colorado, Florida, Iowa and North Carolina that he won each state despite losing the Election Day vote, according to voting data compiled by The Associated Press.

"In 2008, the McCain campaign didn't have any mobilization in place to really do early voting," said Michael McDonald, an early voting expert at George Mason University who tallies voting statistics for the United States Elections Project. "This time around the Romney campaign is not making the same mistake as the McCain campaign did."

McDonald said he sees a shift toward Republicans among early voters, which could make a difference in North Carolina, which Obama won by the slimmest of margins in 2008, only 14,000 votes. The Republican shift, however, might not be enough to wipe out Obama's advantage in Iowa and Nevada, which Obama won more comfortably in 2008.

In Colorado, Florida and Ohio, get ready for a long night of vote counting on Tuesday.

Romney's campaign aides say they are doing so much better than McCain did four years ago that Romney is in great shape to overtake Obama in many of the most competitive states.

"They are underperforming what their 2008 numbers were and we are overperforming where we were in 2008," said Rich Beeson, Romney's political director. "We feel very good heading into the Tuesday election."

Obama's campaign counters that Romney can't win the presidency simply by doing better than McCain.

"It's not about whether or not they're doing better than John McCain did," said Jeremy Bird, Obama's national field director. "It's about whether or not they're doing better than us."

About 35 percent of voters are expected to cast ballots before Tuesday, either by mail or in person.

Voters always can cross party lines when they vote for any office, and there are enough independent voters in many states to swing the election, if enough of them vote the same way. Still, both campaigns are following the early voting numbers closely, using them to gauge their progress and plan their Election Day strategies.

A look at early voting in the tightest states:

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Colorado

About 1.6 million people have voted, and Republicans outnumber Democrats 37 percent to 35 percent. Those numbers are a reversal from four years ago at this time. Inevitably, Obama won the early vote by 9 percentage points in 2008, giving him a big enough cushion to win the state, despite narrowly losing the Election Day vote.

Early voting in Colorado is expected to account for about 80 percent of all votes cast, giving it more weight than in other states.

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Florida

About 3.9 million people have voted, and 43 percent were Democrats and 40 percent were Republicans. For years ago at this time, Democratic early voters had a 9 percentage point lead over Republicans.

Obama won Florida's early vote by 10 percentage points in 2008, getting 400,000 more early votes than McCain, enough to offset McCain's advantage on Election Day.

In Florida, Republicans have historically done better among people who vote by mail, while Democrats have done better among people who vote early in person. For 2012, Florida's Republican-led Legislature reduced the number of in-person early voting days from 14 to eight.

The Obama campaign responded by encouraging more supporters to vote by mail, and Democrats were able to narrow the gap among mail ballots. Democrats quickly took the lead among all early voters, once in-person early voting started. But the margins are slim.

The Obama campaign acknowledges it must do better among Florida's Election Day voters than Obama did on 2008, when McCain won the Election Day vote by 5 percentage points.

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Iowa

About 614,000 people have voted, already exceeding Iowa's total number of early votes in 2008. So far this year, 43 percent of early voters were Democrats and 32 percent were Republicans.

Four years ago, Obama won the early vote in Iowa by a whopping 27 percentage points, 63 percent to 36 percent. McCain, meanwhile, won the Election Day vote by about 1,800 votes — less than a percentage point. Together, they added up to a 10-point victory for Obama.

Romney's campaign argues that Democrats always do better among early voters in Iowa while Republicans do better among Election Day voters, even when President George W. Bush narrowly carried the state in 2004.

Obama's campaign counters that with early voting on the rise, Romney will be left with fewer Election Day voters to make up the difference.

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Nevada

About 628,000 people have voted, and 44 percent were Democrats and 37 percent were Republicans. Four years ago, Obama won Nevada's early vote big, 59 percent to 39 percent. Obama also won Nevada's Election Day vote on his way to a comfortable 13-point win over McCain.

The Romney campaign argues that Obama isn't doing nearly as well among early voters in Nevada as he did in 2008. The Obama campaign argues that it doesn't have to.

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North Carolina

About 2.5 million people have voted, and 48 percent of them were Democrats and 32 percent of them were Republicans. Four years ago at this time, Democrats had a slightly larger lead over Republicans, and Obama won the early vote by 11 percentage points.

Obama lost the Election Day Vote by 17 percentage points in 2008. But the early vote was much bigger than the Election Day vote, resulting in Obama's narrow win.

Obama's campaign cites the big lead for Democrats among early voters, while Romney's campaign argues that even a small shift toward the Republicans could flip the state to Romney.

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Ohio

More than 1.6 million people have voted, and 29 percent were Democrats and 23 percent were Republicans. Forty-seven percent were unaffiliated, more than enough voters to swing the state to either candidate.

Ohio may once again be pivotal in the race for the presidency. Unfortunately, Ohio's early voting data is limited. Party affiliation in Ohio is based on the last primary in which a voter participated, so new voters and those who don't vote in primaries are listed as unaffiliated.

In 2008, Obama won Ohio by 5 percentage points.

 

Comments

KURTje

Obama will win. Then we will hear about theft, fraud, etc.

JACKEL

That is how he got the last one also.Plus he promised the HISPANICS CITIZENSHIP FOR BREAKING OUR LAWS,THE POOR CELL PHONE'S AND WELFARE,THE MUSLIMS FREEDOM TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY,THE COLLEGE KIDS FORGIVENESS ON LOANS,THE BLACKS THE FACT HE IS 1/2 BLACK AND A CITIZEN.It is Scientific fact that the human brain is not mature enough to make an intelligent decision until 25.Why do you think they go to colleges to speak?The Seniors he promised the other guy would kill them,when he already has that built into Bozo Care.You people are just as stupid as the GERMAN'S WERE IN !933.WAIT TILL THE U.N.comes and takes your guns and only the criminals have them!

KnuckleDragger

I wouldn't count on that Kurt, since only 29% of the votes cast in early voting are from Dems. As opposed to Dems, Repubs typically turn out in droves on election day. With only a 29% showing in early voting, despite the huge push by Obama to get them to the polls before they change their mind, I would count on a dismal turnout by Dems on election day. I wouldn't listen to the polls, I'm not the only one who gets 5 calls per day from polls and tells them I am voting for Obama. When polls are sampling +9-+12 Dem to Republican it is not going to be accurate, considering it won't be anywhere close to that ratio on election day. Contrary to what some would have you believe on this site, most people just aren't that fired up about Obama. That will likely mean many of his would be supporters won't show up to vote.

44846GWP

hahahahahahahaha!

JACKEL

I hope when they come after us they get you first !

The Big Dog's back

Gee knuckle, you prove my point that Repubs have to be dishonest to win.

KnuckleDragger

Research, puppy, research. Do a little bit of it from sources other than the Daily Kos, and PMSNBC. Nothing dishonest about what I said. With a 29% turnout by Dems in early voting in Ohio, Obama has a good chance of going down on election day. We can still count on Dems whining about disenfranchisement though, through the whole process. After all, having a whole month to vote still isn't enough for them to get off their rears and vote (29% proves it). Hey, maybe we should give them a whole year to vote, they might get up to 30% then. LOL.

John Harville

KD... what you're forgetting is that a lot of Democrats, having no race in the Demo primary, took GOP tickets and voted heavily for Santorum. The ballot you take in primary determines your party registration until the next primary in which you vote. Also remember Santorum carried a lot of counties... and almost the state... because a lot of Repubs vote for ABR. If you don't vote in primary - or vote issues-only - you are 'non-preference' though not necessarily 'independent'.

swiss cheese kat

@ KnuckleDragger,
good luck trying to prove a point with The Big Dog's back. They is only a rabid obama supporter with no facts.

sanduskysteve

I'm sorry - but there is no way he can prove a point, when he doesn't even know what the point is!!! Dog was NOT talking about that. And why should you vote early - all that does is delay the results if it is too close and then you won't know who won for maybe several days! You guys amaze me with your lack of thinks and lack of comprehension.

I beleive what big dog was referring to was KD's reference to lying to the pollsters when they call him! That, is the dishonesty he was referring to. Of course, I thought your type relied heavily on the polls to do your arguments with. FOX News definitely talk about the polls continuously and even compare them at times. And all the while, there are R's out there distorting the poll data on purpose. With this in mind, you have no clue at all WHO is in the lead, now do you? Everyone wants to rely on numbers and this poll proves this and that poll proves that - polls do not prove anything when the numbers are being tainted by the people taking the polls.

KD is being dishonest when taking polls - he admitted it here. And this is exactly what big dog was referring to - and the dishonest republicans here didn't even notice that, because their leader has taught them and if they say something enough it will become true.

I think Romney is going down in flames - especially in Ohio where he has done nothing but lie lie lie lie. And unfortunately, for him, many people know this to be fact. It is also fact, that MI, MA, and UT have openly stated they are not voting for him - that is a very sad indicator as to what kind of a person he really is.

KnuckleDragger

LOL!! @sanduskysteve, you wouldn't know a point if it hit you in the face. If you think that it is just repubs that are dishonest with pollsters, you are nuts!!! In the beginning, I had no problem answering truthfully but the past 2 wks my phone rings off the hook with pollsters and I am fed up with the inconvenience. I shouldn't have to take my phone off the hook to get some peace. Between them and the barrage of calls from the UAW urging us to vote for Obama I have about had it. My wife hasn't been a member of the UAW since she led a successful drive to have them decertified at her place of employment. You would think she would be the last person they would contact. Anyway, my point being, I'm not sure how old you are but I remember when Jimmy Carter was up 47% to 39% over Reagan 2wks before the election in 1980. I know, you libs will pull up some liberal site that says Carter never led Reagan, sorry I looked at the Gallup poll which was also verified by the NY Times so the lib sites are full of it. Anyway Reagan won by a landslide. All I can say is we shall see tomorrow. In the end, does it really matter? Both are weak candidates without much of an upside. Either way, we lose!

John Harville

You;re all forgetting that most poll calls only go to landlines. While some cell numbers are available, most are not unless they blind dial. KD must have done something special to get all those calls.

John Harville

Voting early does not delay the results. Those are opened and counted on election night.
The only possible delay is if Husted is successful in trying to throw out provisional ballots - which are not opened or counted until 10 days after the election.

Contango

Alright!

Lets' get past this presidental election nonsense, re-elected Pres. Obama and get started with the House Benghazi terrorist attack cover-up hearings!!!

Pres. Biden 2014 (or sooner).

FORWARD SOVIET!

John Harville

@Contango. Oh good. There it is. What took so long? This report was released Friday:
"The military also immediately moved an unarmed Predator surveillance drone to Benghazi airspace to provide real-time intelligence on the situation for the CIA officers on the ground who were fighting the militants.

The Pentagon comments came a day after senior U.S. intelligence officials detailed the CIA's rescue efforts, striking back at allegations they failed to respond quickly or efficiently against the deadly attack, which killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

Two of those Americans were ex-Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty, who initially were identified publicly as State Department contractors. But on Thursday, the intelligence officials said they were CIA contractors. Previously the agency had asked The Associated Press and other news organizations to avoid linking the men to the CIA because the officials claimed that doing so would endanger the lives of other security contractors working for other agencies around the world. -AP 11/2

Reva

No Big Dog. Just the fact that Republicans were all at work instead of sitting home collecting welfare. We WILL vote and be heard Tuesday!

The Big Dog's back

You may be heard but you're still going to lose.

John Harville

Wow @Reva... so America IS working and the economy IS improving by 177,000 in October! You are living texting proof that Ohio unemployment is down to 7%. We are SOOOOOOOOOOOO happy for you Republicans - and our countless Democrat and Independent friends who also are working - and not sitting at home like KD answering another robo polling call!

looking around

Go forward with Obama - Biden

Darwin's choice

If they're your idea of going forward, I fear for America! Do you realize we are only a heartbeat away from having Biden our leader! That thought is terrifying!

sanduskysteve

Not nearly as terrifying as the thought that we could have had Sarah Palin in that position.

KnuckleDragger

Really? I was unaware she was running. Typical lib, still can't let go of the past.

John Harville

DC Not NEARLY as frightening that Mitt is 65, has emotional/mental issues (according to his wife) and that 'Scream' face Paul Ryan is in the wings (Mitt would have to have a heart for it to beat)

swiss cheese kat

8 reasons not to re-elect President Obama,

10) Obama's economic actions have failed to lower the unemployment rate in the U.S. to less than 8 percent for the past 42 months, which is a record.

9) The Obama administration's out-of-control spending has led America to the economic brink and destroyed our country's credit rating.

8) Obama's reckless spending and fiscal policies have added more to the national debt than most U.S. presidents combined -- roughly $6 trillion in his first term in office (making the total debt nearly $16 trillion and, by White House projections alone, $21.3 trillion by the end of fiscal 2017, $25 trillion in 2021 and $25.9 trillion in 2022).

7) Obama has detrimentally increased not only the costs of entitlements but also the dependency of citizens upon government subsidies rather than empower the people's autonomy, responsibility and freedom.

6) Obama demeans private enterprise and the entrepreneurial spirit -- the very heart of America.

5) President Obama has left the U.S. in a weaker and more disrespected position in the global community.

4) Obama has broken or unfulfilled 324 campaign promises.

3) Through his presidency, President Obama is invoking and enabling a radically progressive secular state in the U.S.

Here are the last two unquestionable justifications for ousting Obama from office:

2) Obama elevates himself above the U.S. Constitution -- which contains the rulebook for his presidency -- discarding and bypassing its principles and tenets.

1) Four more years of President Obama will not only fundamentally transform but also unravel the very fabrics of our republic as our Founding Fathers knew it and as we know it.

Blowfish

Chuck Norris wrote this and it shows. He is passionate but we we need a leader not a lone wolf.

10) Obama failed to lower unemployment numbers. An Romney will do better why? His expertise is cutting jobs.

9) Credit rating was already destroyed in before he took office. Remember the reason for the bail outs?

8) Obama's reckless spending came from two wars he inherited. Suggesting he should have cut and run the first day in office?

7) What entitlements does Romney intend to undo? Social Security? Government/military pensions? Good luck with that.

6) Demeans the private enterprise how? Name 100 people that did not go into business for themselves because of Obama and I will believe that.

5) Only country (that we are not at war with) that favors America less is Israel. They want us to fight another holy war. No thanks.

4) Obama has broken campaign promises. Agreed. Romney promises to overturn Roe v. Wade and fight the Chinese. We'll see.

3) Obama wants a secular state and thats bad. Is he saying Romney wants the country to be Mormon?

2) Obama elevates himself about the Constitution. Then impeach him before the election.

1) Its the presidents job to transform the country. A president who doesn't do that will cause the demise of the republic. The world changes regardless of how much we want it to stay still. Adapt or die are the only options.

John Harville

The president's job? No one else has a role? Talk about trashing the Constitution. You just wiped out the Legislative and Judicial branches and the Bill of Rights.

Blowfish

Did not say that no one else has a role. Just said it was his job. Are you voting for the status quo? Or do you want change?

mikel

america's credit rating was downgraded in the last year.

Blowfish

with Standard and Poors only, not with Moody's and Fitch.

coasterfan

Chuck's statements bear only a slight resemblance to anything close to the actual truth...

John Harville

@Swiss Cheese (apt name) You are gonna have to prove Number 2 or I'm going to insist your thread be taken down.

John Harville

@Swiss Cheese: "the very fabrics of our republic as our Founding Fathers knew it and as we know it." Did YOU really write that? Let's check the fibers of 'your' fabric.
1. Senate elected buy the State legislatures.
2. No votes for women.
3. Black male counted as 3/5 of a white male.
4. Slavery continues.
5. No statements on marriage.
6. Noo Bill of Rights (Not ratified until two years after Constitution ratified - four years after Constitution written)
"...a constitution,intended to endure for ages to come, and consequentluy, to be adapted to the various crises of human affairs." - John Marshall

jas

I said it more than six months ago. The 2012 Election will be exactly like the 2004 Election. An unpopular, vulnerable, and beatable incumbent wins reelection because the extremists on the other side are over confident so they run their "dream" candidate so they can finally get their extremist agenda passed. In 2004, it was the far left Democrats with John Kerry and in 2012 it's the far right Republicans with Mitt Romney. Although neither Kerry nor Romney have been extremists for the most part, their campaigns were run by those that were. Simply running an "anti-the other guy" campaign rarely works. Neither Kerry nor Romney were very specific about what they intended to do if elected. They wanted to run "personality" campaigns and they lost. Bush in 2004 and Obama in 2012 were too well organized to be beaten. It's always difficult to beat an incumbent.

I

jas, it's a shame that after nearly four years of being president, the only thing Obama's campaign has to run on is "anti-the other guy". Unfortunately, he cannot run on his record.

John Harville

I am so tired of hearing this tired argument. Just because the accomplishments of which I approve, does not diminish their importance. But 'the other guy' gives him so much fodder - from all 'the many mouths of Mitt'

KnuckleDragger

Romney an extremist? I hope you are a better attorney than you are a political analyst. If you look at Romney's stint as a governor, I would say he is a moderate, maybe even slightly left of center. Romney or Obama, you are likely to get more of the same. The repubs certainly didn't run a conservative this time, by any means.

John Harville

KD... they THOUGHT they were - until October 2.

Kimo

FBI arrested a woman GOP voter for voting twice in Las Vegas.

The only thing you need to remember about Romney is that McCain thought Sara Palin was more intelligent.........

Contango

@ Kimo:

Correction: "Attempting" to vote for a second time.

How do you know; maybe she was a disgruntled Repub votin' for Mr. Obama or maybe she was votin' for a ballot issue?

OMG.LOL.WT_

Romney not so dumb. I heard he went to France instead of Vietnam.

Contango

@ OMG.LOL.WT_:

Not everyone who was drafted went to Vietnam.

The questions are: What was Mr. Romney's draft status and what was his number?

Research the BIG LIE surrounding the USS Maddox and the USS Turner Joy that helped lead to the deaths and maiming of hundreds of thousands of Americans and Vietnamese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gul...

John Harville

@Contango... Romney had a special deferment set aside for Mormon men on Mission - personally known from two Mormon relatives who spent the war mostly on the Riviera. Romney draft number 300... of which none were drafted. "As the Vietnam War raged in the 1960s, Mitt Romney received a deferment from the draft as a Mormon "minister of religion" for the duration of his missionary work in France, which lasted two and a half years." -Boston Globe. Same article,... he received 3 1/2-year deferment while in college and demonstrating in favor of the war and the draft. The only way he could have served in Vietnam was to volunteer - as did many of us for love of country.

the office cat

@Contango.. what, no response to John's information on Romney's status and his Mormon Deferment? Seen a lot of that on here...John presents facts to refute some wild argument and no one responds... hmmmmmmm

sanduskysteve

It's not their way to respond to facts - just to make up their own - and when they loose their argument - they just change the subject to something else.

mikel

not nearly as funny as the 4 union idiots driving a union vehicle stealing romney signs. that is the face of the stupidocrats the democraps ugly stepsister!

KnuckleDragger

Did you watch the news last night? She voted for Obama. I know it is hard for you Kimo, but please try to get your news from someone other than Rachel Madcow.

John Harville

KD. Cite the newscast please...
"Roxanne Rubin, a registered Republican from Henderson, Nev., was arrested Friday on a felony charge of attempting to vote twice in the same election." --Faux News. No report on for whom she said she voted the first time...she wasn't allowed to vote second time.
Now... about that newscast?

the office cat

Knucles... what he said. What news?

Julie R.

I can't wait until this election is OVER!

Darwin's choice

Scientists now have an explanation.....http://youtu.be/Fos4EPUOsHo

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2cents

Our leader?
Your choice!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/agU...

KURTje

Knuckle who you for 4 is your business. My logic behind our next Pres, is proven.....high school students opinions. It hasen't failed me for decades; though imo. the race will be close.

KnuckleDragger

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coasterfan

When driving America in the correct direction, put your transmission in D (Democrat) to move Forward. Select R (republican) to move Backwards.

Randy_Marsh

Drive right off that fiscal cliff coaster! Maybe then we will not have to listen to the idiotic rambling of the left.

coasterfan

Nice try, but I think everyone is well aware which party turned a budget surplus into a huge deficit. It's why you were voted out in 2008...

Contango

@ coasterfan:

You mean the Repub Party in Congress?

Let's conveniently forget the 2000 Tech Wreck which began in March.

Business spending dropped off for Y2K leading to an economic slowdown.

the office cat

...and who bought in to the Y2K malarkey?

Randy_Marsh

Coasterfan
You obviously havent paid attention to who was in charge of the purse strings (Spoiler: Congress) And the correlation of when spending exploded who controlled congress (Another spoiler: the democrats) and the inability of the democrats to even pass a budget.
BTW I was not voted out of anything, I am going to be left holding the debt from Mr spenditall Obama.

The Big Dog's back

Most of the accumulated debt was before 2006 rand. 2 wars, big tax cut mostly for the rich, Medicare part D. You're in denial rand, and I'm not talking about the river in Egypt.

Randy_Marsh

Dog
Simple math 2008 10 trillion, 2012 15 trillion, Projected if Obama wins and current conditions stay the same 2016 20 trillion. Thats 5 trillion every election cycle. Math must be confusing for you huh?

the office cat

Simpler math. 2008 - Chinese debt not included in budget because it was unfunded. 2009 - Chinese debt/war debts added to budget so Americans would know what Congress had done to them. 2012 - remove the Chinese debt and the deficit is lower than 2008. Simple, huh?

John Harville

Marsh... and you apparently didn't pay attention to who was in charge of Congress (Spoiler: Republicans 1994-2006). And for six years they controlled it ALL as the collapse built.

sanduskysteve

Wait a minute - are you now blaming things on the Congress??? Which is it? The President's fault or Congress's fault?? Funny, if a republican is in the WH, it's congress who is at fault - if a democrat is in the WH, then the President is at fault - congress has nothing to do with it anymore.

KnuckleDragger

A budget surplus that was created via some creative accounting.

sanduskysteve

It was created by increasing revenue.

Contango

@ coasterfan:

D is for "Forward"?

Yea -

FORWARD SOVIET!

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2cents

(D) = Drive Forward off the physcial cliff :)

John Harville

2cents... the 'physicial cliff'. There is an actual cliff of rock and dirt and....
Oh... you meant the fiscal cliff you and so many others imagine.

Sweet Jesus please protect us...

shucks

D > drive > forward= Democrat

R > reverse > fourth century = Republican

coasterfan

Democrats, be sure to set your clocks back one hour since Daylight Savings Time is over. Republicans should set your clocks back to 1950.

Contango

@ coasterfan:

LOL. 1950 was the beginning of the golden age for jobs, business, the U.S. economy, stable monetary policy and a strong dollar.

Progressive Democrats need to set their clocks for Russia 1917. Mr. Lenin is that you?

coasterfan

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Randy_Marsh

So if the GOP policys are stuck in 1950 they are working towards more rights for the people and the democrats are the one obstructing like they did back then? Coaster guess you arent aware Rev, King was a republican?

The Big Dog's back

Are any of the Repubs running have that 1950's philosophy? If so let me know.

Randy_Marsh

Most repubs do not want the government killing 16 year olds without a trial.

The Big Dog's back

I guess that means no rand. Just as I thought.

Randy_Marsh

Dog
You think? Thats a laugh!

the office cat

Today, Ike would have been a Democrat... just look at his infrastructure programs.... it's almost impossible to drive anywhere in America without traveling on a superhighway or crossing an Eisenhower bridge. And he only had one Republican Conress. The King was a Republican 'fact' is posted by a conservative Black group in - of all places - Texas. But no verification.

Contango

@ coasterfan:

Typical Progressive: Can't write what you mean or mean what you write.

The Progressive clock remains fixed on Russia 1917, both fiscally and socially. No need to revise the point.

coasterfan

I'm in Fremont to hear Joe Biden speak! Woohoo!

Contango

@ coasterfan:

The question is: Does he know where HE'S at?

the office cat

Always. Do you? Know where you are?

mikel

a friend of mine called and asked if i wanted a pair of tickets to see biden. i was like are you freaking (pg13 word) nuts. only convicts and idiots will show up for that.

the office cat

You have a friend? So glad you declined.

goofus

I love how the state run media compares this election with 2008. It's like they wiped the 2010 midterms from their memory banks. If I remember right the evangelicals voted for the messiah Obozo with the delusion he would unite everybody, I have not seen a poll relying on the evangelical vote which made up 23% of voters in Ohio!!! Romney by a landslide!!!!!

coasterfan

Yeah I know what you mean about selective memory.Republicans would like us to forget that Bush and 2000-2008 happened... There won't be a landslide, but Obama is up in most of the battleground states. There simply aren't enough angry, undereducated white men for Romney to have clear path to victory. The polls have all been remarkably consistent. The smart money is on Obama.

Randy_Marsh

Hard to forget because we have the same policys.

coasterfan

Bush and Romney, you mean...

Contango

@ coasterfan:

No, Pres. Bush and Pres. Obama - borrow and spend.

the office cat

Marsh. policIES. Please, PLEASE stop demonstrating you are one of the undereducated white guys.

the office cat

Marsh. policIES. Please, PLEASE stop demonstrating you are one of the undereducated white guys.

shucks

coasterfan
"There simply aren't enough angry, undereducated white men for Romney to have clear path to victory."

There's a lot of them in this blog.

coasterfan

Some of you have a really bad case of Romnesia. Luckily for you, as a pre-existing condition, you are covered under Obamacare. Progressives= Progress.
FORWARD

Contango

@ coasterfan:

Early Progressives knew and wrote that Progressivism was socialism. Know your history.

American Progressives fool themselves into thinking that they are smarter than the Russian Bolsheviks - they ain't.

FORWARD SOVIET!

the office cat

Whoa... Teddy Roosevelt was a socialist? Founded the Progressive Party in 1912... a party that, among other things, welcomed women. He was the originator of the environmental initiative. I know... to you, such progressiveness in socialist.

KnuckleDragger

Ahh yes. Do you ever have an original thought?

KURTje

Coasterfan if you don't mind I'm putting up your transmission direction at work Monday. Okay? R = backward/reverse. D=Forward/drive.

coasterfan

Sure,go ahead. I heard it from Marcy Kaptur. Thought it summed up things perfectly, in an easy to remember fashion.

shucks

D > drive > forward= Democrat

R > reverse > fourth century = Republican

thinktwice

Non working Obama supporters first to polls. Hard working Republicans that don't have time to vote early will do their workday obligations and then vote when they have the spare time.

the office cat

thinktwice... If what you say is true... then it's Obama all the way... the poll parking lot was FULL

eriemom

Romney desperate in Ohio

coasterfan

Desperate Romney is right. In Fremont today, Biden pointed out to the crowd that Romney had basically been called a liar by two American CEOs in the final week of the campaign for his false Jeep China ads,a first by any presidential candidate in modern times.
Finished by asking what kind of person would attempt to scare voters who just recovered from recession-induced worries about job security? Clearly,Romney is a man lacking in character with little understanding or regard for the common man.

Darwin's choice

Yet,clearly, you and biden are lacking period!

shucks

little man

Randy_Marsh

“There’s never been a day in the last four years I’ve been proud to be his vice president, Not one single day.”
We hear you Joe, I wouldnt be proud either.

the office cat

Where did you get that misquote? Oh, that's right, you don't do sources.

Second Opinion

“MOTHER OF SEAL: 'I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA MURDERED MY SON”
For SEVEN HOURS our Navy Seals asked for backup in a battle at our U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya
Strange, Obama asked the Seals to get Bin Laden and they did. They in turn asked for backup from Obama and he refused.
Strange that the main press, including this one IGNORES these facts, but I’m sure after the election they will jump on it.

the office cat

Second... why is it so difficult for you Obama-haters to give sources? Which Seal?

thinktwice

I think it's how you plant your foot when you first start out. Since Obama planted false hopes he will be putting that foot in his mouth on Tuesday.

the office cat

Thinktwice... not gettin' away without sources or expanding that 'false hopes' thing. And please, be factual.

Kimo

I worked till six, can see who worked today and who spent the day on the computer.......

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2cents

Kimo,
It depends on how you work. I bundled work with well, homework and play, also found a few times to check in here from three different cities in Ohio, using three different desktops and a quick peek from a cell phone. While driving I have my first three radio channels set to MSNBC, CNN & Fox, (left to right) : ) I like to hear three different perspectives about current politics while driving.

the office cat

So... the economy's improvement is exemplified in you... even if you've had this job a decade, there is enough work to keep you traveling. So did you vote this morning before setting out or waiting until tonight. Or did you betray the Repubs vote and vote early.

KnuckleDragger

Yup, because in Kimo's world everyone works a 9-5 union job. Sorry friend, less than 10% of the population has a job like that.

the office cat

KD Again, WOW! Unions only work 9-5? Once again demonstrating the ramblings of one of those undereducated white men.

Darwin's choice

With the reports of voters so far, if it's a close race, Romney Wins. If it's a landslide, Obama loses! Good bye Obama!

the office cat

Darwin's Ape (Choice): So, either way Romney wins, right?

OSUBuckeye59

None of the candidates for the last 16 years have represented the nation as it is today. I have asked "TRUE" Republicans under the age of 45 if they are pro choice and pro same sex marriage...overwhelming majority say yes. Conversely, I have asked "TRUE" Democrats under 45 if they are for the current welfare system and anti second amendment...most answer no. Four of the most divisive party platform issues are so blurred by today's majority that only one thing must be fact...our populist ideals have moved so closely to the middle of the political spectrum that no true hard line candidate represents the majority. I'd wager only a centrist truly represents the populace.

Problem: political capital is not only controlled by the few, it is also controlled by our elder statesmen. When the few have more to spend than the majority in a political system run by cash, an electoral college and ignoring the majority...the majority is not represented. And for all the young insanely wealthy individuals that would argue the point...I say the same...you do not represent the majority. Money does not make you right....it just makes you louder.

Solution...a candidate that actually represents what the majority of the country believes: pro-choice; pro-self defense (at home and abroad); work for a living unless you cannot (and I mean cannot...injured, elderly), there will be help; spend money inside the borders and not for special interests (pay teachers not companies paving over good streets); if money need be spent overseas, get something for the investment (international capitalistic spending); and, finally yes, a candidate that is both pro-choice and pro-second amendment (gun).

In other words: the majority must reach into its smaller pockets and some how come up with 2 billion dollars to hope and get a presidential candidate elected to office that truly represents us...the majority.

By the way...the average party donor this year earned a heck of a lot more than you and I combined.

Third party, anyone?

OSUBuckeye59

Just because it's legal doesn't make it right... "Romney avoids taxes via loophole"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

KnuckleDragger

The problem is that nearly every Dem in Congress also uses these loopholes yet are very outspoken against them. Hypocrites anyone?

OSUBuckeye59

KnuckleDragger,

Members of both parties use tax loopholes. The problem with Romney is his dishonesty in not releasing his tax returns because he knew it would show how shallow his words are.

shucks

@ OSUBuckeye59

I appreciate your rational observations, they are very refreshing.

OSUBuckeye59

4shizzle,

I am humbled by your kind words.

As an ex native of Sandusky, where I was born and raised, I still have siblings in the area, and still care greatly about Ohio in general even though I've been living and working in Oregon since '89.

I'm not a registered member of either major political party. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate. I voted for Reagan. I voted for Clinton. In fact, I've voted for the Democratic nominee ever since Clinton. And this year I was really hoping for a real Leader to be selected by the GOP. But when I voted almost 2 weeks ago (Oregon is 100% vote-by-mail), for me it came down to the best of the worst two candidates from each major political party: re-elect an incumbent who over-committed on "change" and then very much under-delivered to those change promises (including promising to lower the deficit by 50%); or elect a wealthy, business-savvy former governor of Massachusetts with lots of promises yet no details on how he plans to deliver on those promises.

As I wrote, Obama pledged to lower the deficit by 50%. Yeah...right. On the flip side, Romney's already aiming for a 2-term presidency by saying he'll eliminate the deficit in less than 8 years, yet has given zero details on how he'll do it. And no matter who "wins" the Presidency, it's almost assured the GOP will maintain control of the House and the Democratic Party will maintain control of the Senate, meaning we're almost guaranteed more "Rule by Constipation".

When Romney left office in Massachusetts, his approval rating was 34%. In 2006, his last year in office, all of his 250 vetoes were overturned. In total, Romney issues 800 vetoes, of which 707 were overturned. That's 88% of his vetoes were overturned. And he's going to get bipartisan support how, exactly?

As for Obama, he had difficulties with his OWN party right after gaining office. And of course the GOP-controlled house has made it "Rule by constipation", making their #1 goal to block Obama at every step and turn, no matter what the blockage would do to the American people. If Obama gets re-elected, he's going to do what differently to bust through the blockage?

Perhaps the one potential ray of sunshine would be that Obama gets re-elected and thinks, "OK...I'm a lame-duck President. I've learned a LOT in my first four years and I'm going to make a positive difference this time around." Perhaps he'd actually do the right thing and remind both the House and Senate who they represent: the people.

Neither candidate really stands out as the Leader our Great Nation really needs right now.

mikel

romney has COMPLIED with the law that states he must release 2 most recent years of tax returns. where is the dishonesty?

OSUBuckeye59

mikel,

You are correct in that Romney complied with the law. I still contend he was being dishonest in that he hid the fact he paid zero federal taxes for 15 years prior to 2010. Why not show Leadership by releasing tax return records like his father, and tell the American people something like, "I took full & legal advantage of our U.S. tax codes."

the office cat

Mikel... We all look for deductions. But I don't know anyone in a very wide circle of friends and acquaintances - personal and professional - of either party who EVER 'borrowed' their church's non-profit status to avoid paying taxes - noting here that the 'borrowing' loophole was closed. The law isn't always 'legal' - slavery, interracial marriage, denying women the vote - as a few examples.

anthras

I do not know if anyone has posted this prior as I do work and cannot keep up with all the posts.
However it does seem that a winner has been picked as the Redskins lost at home yerterday. In the 18 presidential elections since 1937 17 have been predicted by the Redskins performance prior to the election. If the Redskins lose the challenger usually prevails. Sorry Obama

Darwin's choice

As good a guess as all the rest!! Bye Bye Barry!

starryeyes83

Just think no mattter who wins , in two months we will all be B' ching and complaining about the high dollar inauguration 2013 parties and balls etc.

mikel

you are right about that! i don't have an exact figure but am guessing that all totalled from all campaigns the dollar amount spent is probably over a $billion$. crazy!!!

OSUBuckeye59

mikel,

Your estimate is shockingly close: as of 2 weeks ago, combined spending by both major presidential candidates was ~$915 million. I have no doubt they will indeed exceed $1 billion by tomorrow evening.

the office cat

Mikel... pay tenshun. He said the cost of the INAUGURATION PARTIES etc.
Actually, across America, in all elections, politicians and 'peoplecorps' have spent in excess of $6 billion

starryeyes83

The office cat... That would be SHE - Thank you :)

I heard the figure of $ 6 Billion , too, Holy Shiiete!!!!

mgizzel420

I hope if Obama wins he has a better plan for the next four years then that crap plan he had the last four. He said he would have it cleaned up in 4 years now he's saying no one could do it in 4 years. I just dont trust anything about this man, he is in over his head. GO MITT

The Big Dog's back

Get the obstructionist Repubs out of the way and things will happen faster.

OSUBuckeye59

Big Dock,

The GOP House has indeed been practicing "Rule by Constipation" for the past 2 years. And what makes you think they would change should Obama get re-elected? Or if the Democratic Party maintains control of the Senate and Romney gets elected that they won't adopt "Rule by Constipation".

OSUBuckeye59

mgizzel420,
Obama said he'd reduce the deficit by 50%. So much for that promise. I'd rather have a politician under-commit and then over-deliver. Like that'll ever happen. And to be fair, Romney's already lobbying for a second term by saying he'll eliminate the deficit in less than 8 years.

How does the joke go...How can you tell when a politician's lying? They open their mouth. :-)

the office cat

If you take out the unfunded China debt to prosecute two wars AND pay for unfunded Medicare Part D - he'd be close to reducing the 'debt' Bush left behind. This president wanted the American people to know exactly what we were paying.

OSUBuckeye59

Office cat,

To be fair, and I'm not a member of the GOP party, but again, to be fair, it's hard to postulate if Obama would've been able to reduce the debt as you've indicated. The TARP funds added to the deficit, and given the continued recession, it's quite possible the Fed would've injected more stimulus $$ into the economy potentially via infrastructure projects, as an example, in an attempt to get the economy rolling.

Regardless, we need our next President, be it Obama or Romney, to be a Leader. And we need both the House and Senate to put our Country first and Party second.

Randy_Marsh

Wonder who voted for the war? http://peaceispatriotic.org/bill... Oh thats right THEY ALL DID. Get a clue.

sanduskysteve

They voted for the war because they were lied to. And the war was still unfunded and not included in the budget (meaning not included in Bush's deficit OR debt). Stop with the THEY VOTED FOR IT crap - if they had not been lied to, it's quite possible that even the GOP would not have voted for the war.

the office cat

In his next term, the Republicans will not be able to use the excuse they want to keep him from getting a 'second term'. So, what will they use? When he started in 2009, he was given the figures on the 'hidden' China debt that accrued because it was unfunded.

OSUBuckeye59

office cat,

Should Obama get re-elected, I fear the "Rule by Constipation" by the GOP-controlled House will only continue. And the GOP will then target mid-term elections to gain control of both the House and Senate, should the Democrats retain control of the Senate after today.

coasterfan

Tomorrow is your chance, American voters. It's time to remember just how horrible things were in 2008, at the depths of the recession. It's time to remember that the same party that caused the recession is now pushing a new candidate with the same old ideas, and the exact same economic plan that caused the recession. The same plan that resulted in a loss of 500,000 jobs per month by the end of 2008. They want you to forget just how BAD things were on their watch, but you do remember, don't you?

If you want to continue the steady recovery, join me in voting for Obama and the middle class. If you want a return to the recession, in which the rich prospered and the rest of us struggled, vote for Plutocrat Romney. It's really that simple...

Randy_Marsh

Spam. Its to be expected from a obama follower though.

Darwin's choice

Bye Bye Barry......

the office cat

FOUR MORE YEARS... even after Jon Husted becomes a pariah in his own party for delaying the final results by at least 10 days. The provisional ballots cannot even be looked at until November 17. If the margin in Ohio is less than the number of provisional ballots, and if that margin impacts the final count and final decision... but , not to worry, cuz the President is continuing.

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