GOP's Ryan visits Ohio; first lady also in state

Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan told hundreds of supporters in southwestern Ohio on Monday that they're in "the battleground state of battleground states" and that they must vote for growth over stagnation in three weeks.
Associated Press
Oct 15, 2012

 

Ryan spoke to about 500 supporters at a Cincinnati airport on a chilly, breezy afternoon before serving them barbecue and asking, "Would you like pork?" as reporters elbowed each other to get images of the exchanges.

Ryan's airport rally means that the Republican ticket has been in swing state six of the last eight days, after he and Mitt Romney campaigned in different Ohio cities Saturday.

"Ohioans, you know you have a big say-so. You know you're the battleground state of battleground states," Ryan told the crowd. "That means you have within your control, your ability, to go find those people who voted for Barack Obama in 2008, who just aren't as impressed these days, who heard the hope and the change ... but see this is nothing but a failed agenda of broken promises."

He said "the window of opportunity to fix this mess is beginning to close on us," and urged supporters to vote early so they can focus on getting other people to the polls on Nov. 6.

"Thank you for what you are about to do, because right here in the Buckeye State you can make the difference that can shape this election," he said.

Lisa Woods, of Cincinnati, wore red suede boots and a leather American flag jacket to Ryan's rally. She said she thinks he and Romney will be better for small business-owners like herself.

"I am taxed like crazy," said the 48-year-old married mother of an 8-year-old. "Between gas and groceries, I'm spending $6,000 more since 2008. I'm the first one who's willing to pay my fair share, but I'm also tired of sharing with everyone else who doesn't think there's a work ethic in this country."

Ryan visited Ohio following a stop in Wisconsin and left the state soon after lunch to head for New York.

First lady Michelle Obama also will be in the state Monday as the race for November gets into its final weeks.

President Obama returns to the state Wednesday with an appearance at Ohio University in Athens, while former President Bill Clinton and Bruce Springsteen will campaign Thursday for Obama in Parma.

The Obama campaign also is running a new state TV ad featuring space hero and former Ohio Sen. John Glenn, who did a radio spot for Obama last month.

 

Comments

KURTje

Please VOTE.......for those that care about everday people. Not $$.

John Harville

SUPREME COURT rules FOR Ohio voters. S,S,M 11/3,4,5 early vote stands!!!

The Big Dog's back

Go home Eddie Munster.

shucks

For real!

eriemom

You know, I get pretty tired of hearing about all those lazy moochers taking money from real Americans. I refuse to believe that anyone in this state could vote for somebody who refuses to be transparent about his plans. We have learned from that mistake when Gov. Kasick was elected. I can't believe that Ohioans will vote for the same failed policies that CAUSED this recession.

Randy_Marsh

We love the transparency of the present admin AHAHAHA! Sorry i cannot say that with a straight face. Erie just yesterday you had no clue about what Obama has said in the past and now you are wanting transparency from everyone else? Funny thing about dem voters is they always say the other guy isnt transparent enough for them but cannot really tell you anything about what Obama wants other than vague MSNBC quotes.

anthras

CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama said on Thursday that “we got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system."

According to the Congressional Budget Office, however, the government will lose about $24 billion on the bailout.

“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system, but we also passed a historic law to end taxpayer-funded Wall Street bailouts for good,” Obama said in Miami Thursday.

The Congressional Budget Office--based on figures from Obama’s own Office of Management and Budget---gives a different assessment.

“The cost to the federal government of the TARP’s transactions (also referred to as the subsidy cost), including grants for mortgage programs that have not yet been made, will amount to $24 billion,” said the CBO report, which was released on the same day Obama spoke.

TARP is the Troubled Asset Relief Program – the formal name of the government’s financial bailout program passed in October 2008.

CBO said that the cost of TARP “stems largely from assistance to American International Group (AIG), aid to the automotive industry, and grant programs aimed at avoiding home mortgage foreclosures,” noting that the losses will be so large they will eclipse the financial gains the government will realize from bailing out other large financial institutions.

In fact, CBO reported that as of now $65 billion in TARP funds remain outstanding.

yep Obama sure is transparent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Harville

TARP is not Obama's program...remember - even who you quote says 2008. Obama's program was the stimulus package passed in 2009.

Obama landslide a'comiin'... US SUPCO says Ohioans must be allowed to vote on S,S,M before election - those are 90% Dem.

mikel

i hope that ohioans don't vote for someone who has on the fast track to financial he!! such as the current administration!

anthras

A new chart from the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee details the fact that, since January 2009, for every person added to the labor force, 10 have been added to those not in the labor force. Here's a chart showing the dwindling labor force:

"For Every 1 Person Added To Labor Force Since January 2009," the chart reads, "10 People Added To Those Not In Labor Force."

That is, in nearly the four years, since President Obama took office in January 2009, only 827,000 people have been added to the labor force, while during that same time period, 8,208,000 have been added to those not in the labor force.

The chart relies on data available from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.

"The numbers represented in the chart are a measure of growth from January 2009 through September 2012," the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee explains. "The data is sourced from the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Current Population Survey, a sample of 60,000 households conducted by personal and telephone interviews. Basic labor force data are gathered monthly. The labor force consists of all people aged 16 and over either employed or actively seeking work. It does not include discouraged workers, people who have retired, or those on welfare or disability who are no longer looking for work. The 'not in the labor force' group is defined as the total civilian non-institutional population minus the labor force."

Since January 2009, the labor force has grown by 0.54 percent, or 827,000 people (from 154,236,000 to 155,063,000). Those not in the labor force grew by 10.2 percent during the same period (8,208,000 people), from 80,502,000 to 88,710,000. In other words, for every one person added to the labor force of the United States since January 2009, the size of the U.S. population not in the labor force grew by 10 people.

And the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee concludes, "These figures reveal several troubling trends: That the jobs market is not keeping pace with U.S. population growth; that not enough younger Americans are joining the labor force to account for retirement among an ageing population; and that a large number of workers have become so discouraged that they simply stopped looking for work and left the labor force entirely. These factors pose serious fiscal challenges for the United States. A historically low labor force participation rate—together with an ageing population and a record number of people drawing federal welfare benefits—puts severe strain on the federal budget in both the near and long term."

UPDATE: Senator Jeff Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, comments: “The essential point of this chart is not simply how many people are employed or unemployed, but to illustrate that more and more people are simply not part of the U.S. labor force. This confirms that we are on the wrong track. It is unsustainable to have such a large and growing number of people who are not part of the productive economy. This is not a political argument, but a description of the underlying instability in our economy that has so many Americans worried about the future. The question is what can we do to reverse these trends and start moving in the right direction.”

John Harville

Sir. The Baby Boom generation - that economic force that has played heavily on everything in the last 67 years began turning 65 in 2010 and retiring from the workforce AND collecting the SS and other benefits to which we are ENTITLED after 45-50 years of paying those taxes. Many began leaving the workforce as early as 2007. OF COURSE the workforce is dwindling. The same people who forced the building of larger schools and expanded college and university enrollments and contributed to a large SS Trust Fund will leave ever-increasing holes in the workforce (not to mention the 58,000 slaughtered in Viet Nam).
If there is anything in 'large numbers' leaving the workforce, it's because our Republican government in the last 20 years has not provided encouragement to train people for the right job (100,000 welding jobs remain open in the Midwest).
The productive economy of which Jeff Sessions (I can't believe you quoted him) speaks is not lacking in jobs but lacking in proper training for those jobs.
In case youo missed it. Today the Supreme Court refused to take Jon Husted's appeal and instead laid open the path to early votiing the S,S,M before Election Day. Feel the Obama landslide?

John Harville

WEll Mikel... after this morning's (Tuesday) Supreme Court Ruling that Ohioans can vote early right up to election day, we'll have even more time to vote for Obama protection from that Bain Capitalist sending Freeport Illinois jobs to China the day before the election - and we'll still be voting the day before the election. Yay us!

mikel

apparently, prez o thinks that all dems are, well, self thinking challenged. his commercials state, and many here repeat it so the challenged thing could be true, that romney only pays 14% taxes. prez o has the kool aid drinkers up in arms about this.

but, even prez o admits this, romney is being taxed on investment income not actual payroll. so, if you stop and think about it, when romney first earned this money it was probably taxed at 35%. like a good, responsible person he invested his money AFTER it was taxed once, unless it went into a 401k or traditional ira. he then earns interest or dividends on the money that was already taxed once before. this is then taxed at 14%.

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2cents

Yes mikel, I made note of that in a post some time ago. What I fail to understand is why nobody mentions the fact that if they cut defense there will be hundreds of thousands unemployed. It seems that some simple people think that defense equipment cones out of a box stored on a shelf from somewhere! Check out this new BS. http://presstv.com/usdetail/2668...

eriemom

So, we should purchase war materials, that we don't need, to keep people employed. Better yet to keep the war machine profitable. Ever hear the term "robber barron"? Wouldn't it make more sense, for America, to invest in infrastructure?

2cents's picture
2cents

You are right, I think I will sign up for those Chinese and Arabic language classes after the election!

John Harville

Chinese lessons... why? Oh, because Bain Capital is shipping a profitable auto parts factory jobs to China - and making the American workers train the
Chinese? And Rmoney owns $8 million interest in the Bain profits from the move? Hmmmmmmmmmm.

anthras

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks Federal Election Commission data, Obama has collected $118,121 from donors who list Bain as their employer between June 2004 and May 2012. The period covers Obama’s bid for the Senate and his presidential campaigns.

One of Obama’s top campaign financiers — Jonathan Lavine — is also managing director at Bain, bundling between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions for the 2012 Obama Victory Fund, according to estimates released by the Obama campaign. The president has also relied on other leading figures in the private equity sector as hosts for high-dollar fundraisers and as members of his Jobs Council.

If they send the jobs to China do you think Obama will become upset and return the money he received ????????????/

The Big Dog's back

mikel, do you really think everyone is that stupid to think he is taxed twice on the same money? Maybe you don't understand, so I will explain it to you. He takes that money that let's say somewhere down the line he paid 35% in taxes, and invests it. The money he "makes" above and beyond the initial money is taxed at 14%. No double taxation there.

mikel

see, you are dog. i didn't say that he was double taxed on the same money. i said that he was probably taxed 35% on payroll and 14% on investment income. money that was already taxed once generates more tax dollars. why should that be taxed at the same rate? romney didn't write the tax law. he is paying what he is required to. the problem starts at the point where people believe "what's yours is mine". EVERYONE has the same opportunity to invest their own money. dog, make your own investments and then you can quit your job, if you have one, and live off of the interest and only be taxed at 14%. simple enough.

just think if the super rich like romney, gates, buffet etc would pull all of their investment money out of banks, business' etc. who would then fund the business industry? where would banks get the money to make their loans? criticize the rich all you want but they do make the world go around.

anthras

I did earn my money and paid the taxes however my percent was lower because of my deductions as to pay the top rate on your gross income I think would mean that you had no deductions.

All of my investment money is in 2 things today gold and tax free bonds a good investement manager can help with this. Mine called me to advise he had some bonds in $5,000 increments for the Cleveland Clinic paying 5-1/2 % and tax free federal state or local taxes zero. I have also bought bonds issued from Erie and Lucas counties 0 taxes.

mikel

anthras - bonds have typically been a wise investment. however, one should be cautious with municipality bonds. thanks to california leading the way with municipalities filing for bankruptcy that has diminished the thought process for those bonds as they go away with bankruptcy.

John Harville

Sounds like "legitimate evasion" to me.

NOTE: US SUPCO says Ohio WILL VOTE the three days before election - major smackdown for Husted and Republicans. Oboy! More "corporate citizens" money poouring into the economy!

The Big Dog's back

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

eriemom

How much money was in the IRA? I think it was just a bit more than the $2000 regular Americans can invest.

coasterfan

Dontcha just love hearing Republican politicians talk about the economy? They take no blame for causing the recession, and want us to believe that the same policies will magically work in 2012. Middle class folks: did Bush's economic policies help you in 2007-2008. Well, no they didn't. They led to millions of job losses, home foreclosures, pension losses, and the list goes on. Under Obama, unemployment has dropped, new job creation is up, foreclosures are down. America in 2012 is on an uphill trajectory. America in 2008 was on the most precipitous decline since 1929.

Randy_Marsh

2007-2008 = Democrat congress. Forgot that part huh? Bush or any president cannot snap his fingers and get the economy going now can they after 4 years of Obama? I love watching dems trying to avoid responsibility while stepping on their own toes.

John Harville

Democrat Congress? WRONG AGAIN. Senate 58-40-2 incluidng many Blue Dog Democrats who - unlike Republicans - didn't march in lockstep. Only if that 40 had been 39 did Democrats control. Even then, Bush was president, and it would have taken 67 votes to override a veto. Same held true 2008 and beyond. The only REAL POWER always has been those 40 Republican senators...

Fortunately even the SUPREME COURT recognizes the power of the people and the right to vote - something those corporate citizens cannot do - and upheld Sat Sun Mon voting in Ohio. The tremblor you feel may just be an Obama landslide growing.

Randy_Marsh

Now thats funny. John you have any lotto numbers or are you just another cheerleader thinking if you say it often enough its true?
Party hacks that continue to blame Repubs for everything while thinking the dems are innocent show the true stupidity of the dem voters. This weeks lesson is brought to you by the letter "W" "T" and "F" and the word "Hypocrisy".

anthras

President Obama's budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.

Coupled with the House's rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama's budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year

Didn't seem to matter who controlled congress for this vote

Don S

The way to "clean up this mess" is to not vote for Romney nor anymore Teapublicans. Even with a majority, it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass a bill. That means that some votes must come from the other side of the isle.

Randy_Marsh

Like the 2010-2012 democrats who could pass anything but didnt? Except of course the healthcare bill no one wants to mention because it isnt what they thought it was because they took the word of the house and senate leadership which were both dems? Yeah Don S we have seen the dems at work and liken it to the blind leading the blind.

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2cents
shucks

That was probably taken out of context.

KnuckleDragger

@Randy, why would Don S care about Obamacare, he is a union dolt whose plan was exempted from the provisions of Obamacare. The bill is full of exemptions (favors) for Obama's chosen few. All the while they keep raising fees and premiums on military retirees in order to help pay for Obamacare. Military retirees are on tap to have premiums and co-pays increased for the second time in less than a year after just seeing a nearly 20% increase on Oct 1. In the end the premiums will likely increase by 50% in less than a year when retirees have only received on 3.6% COLA in the last three years

John Harville

2010-2012? Randy. You need to take a pill or a beer and cool down. Hope you got some sleep. 2010-2012 Teapublicans rule the House and the 40 Repubs still hold all the filibuster cards in the Senate.

Did I mention the Supreme Court upheld s,s,m voting?

Randy_Marsh

John
My bad 2008-2010 congress who could pass any peice of junk they wanted but couldnt even come up with a budget.
As for the early voting i approve of it. Those who think so far along party lines that they ignore fellow americans makes them "Un-American" Was it a win for the democrats or for the people? If you say party you are just as much part of the problem as those you despise. Think about that, You are no longer a amewrican because you hold party over country and thats pretty sick.

KURTje

"Im Lion Ryan & I approve this message - VOTE."

John Harville

And all those Dems can vote right up to election day thanks to the SUPCO.

Riskkbreaker

The Republicans take no blame? I am pretty certain that you have them confused with the Democrats..a party which likes to pretend that they did not have a HUGE hand in how this country has turned out. The biggest hand of all, in fact.
Do you really expect us to believe that the Republicans caused this mess?

The Democrats gained control of both houses of Congress in 2007 (due to rising anti-war sentiment) and suddenly we take an economic nosedive, but it is the Republican's fault?
Why would they set us on a course for economic collapse? Do the Republicans suddenly hate capitalism and want to end it? They wanted to hand the country over to the Democrats because they suddenly share the Left Wing dream of turning our country into Europe?

Oh, wait..I get it! Let me guess, the Republicans set you up? They used the dark side of the force to foresee the future so they knew, ahead of time, that the Democrats would gain power for awhile..so they cast some sorcery on the economy so that it would start crashing about a year after the Democrats gained control of Congress? Right? Wait...wouldn't that still be risking an end to capitalism, which the Right Wing views as the best economic model for a free society? Why would they do that?

Here is a very detailed debunking for you. http://www.commentarymagazine.co... Bush versus Obama.

shucks

nonsense

John Harville

I'm getting so tired debunking all this "Democrats controlled the Congress 2007-08". To control Congress in 2007-08 Dems would have needed 67 votes in Senate and 292 in the House in order to be 'veto-proof' OR the Republicans would have had 39 instead of 40 Senators. Why would the Republicans 'do it'? GREED. They planned to keep the WH and gain fuller ocntrol of Congress in 2008 by being able to campaign on the burgeoning economy even though they cut taxes, placed huge unfunded NCLB mandates on states/schools, and never once passed a revenue bill to pay for the China loans.

Riskkbreaker

You did not debunk anything. You danced right around everything the article (that I linked) said..not to mention what my comment said in general (although you do seem to think that their plan to gain power was to cause themselves to lose it first ---in such a way that they might have never gained it again--- which makes no sense).

As to your reply, unless you can cite specific filibuster threats that Republicans made in 2007-2008 (and show that they caused the crisis), you have nothing yet.

John Harville

Risky:
"In the 110th Congress of 2007-2008, with Republicans in the minority, there were a record 112 cloture votes." For the unenlightened, a cloture vote ends debate/filibuster.

From US SENATE: Cloture resolutions/cloture (filibuster) invoked:
2011-12 1009/37; 2009-2010 137/63; 2007-2008 139/61; 2005/2006 68/34; 2003-2005 62/12.... you can go check the rest.

Do you really want me to do your research? I'm not going to post each individual cloture/filibuster - although in 07-08 bills were introduced on banking reform, freddie/fannie (yes the Republicans even stifled THEIR reform proposal because of amendments (they stifled debate on the amendments, too). There was a 'fair-pay' bill, a lead-up to VAWA renewal....
Looks like I have a lot... but you'll never acknowledge it, will you?

DGMutley

Remember Seamus...

shucks
DGMutley

It's terrible to do that to a pet: 12 hours in a cage on top of their station wagon at highway speeds. The dog got sick so he just stopped in the gas station and hosed the cage, dog, and station wagon. Now he wants to hose us.

John Harville

In Seamus' memory, Romney now transports Jim Lehrer up there.

goofus

Romney by a landslide in November!!!

shucks

You may be right.

http://youtu.be/a0ccPh3YYH4

John Harville

Goofus... Except for today"s SUPCO ruling....

John Harville

Goofus... Except for today"s SUPCO ruling....

John Harville

SUPREME COURT SAYS VOTERS CAN VOTE. In a possibly landmark decision TODAY the US Supreme Court refused to hear Ohio Sec of State Husted's appeal of lower court decision requiring voting be allowed November 3,4,5. Obama landslide November 6!!!

Riskkbreaker

...And an economic landslide ensuing thereafter! High five?

Am I imagining things? It is all in the Cloward-Piven strategy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clo...

Ask yourself, tho..how well you think it will turn out.

mikel

"2:30PM EDT October 16. 2012 - DETROIT -- A123 Systems, a lithium-ion battery maker which received a $249.1 million grant from the U.S. government in 2009, filed for bankruptcy protection Tuesday in Delaware....A123, with 700 employees in Livonia, Romulus and Ann Arbor, Mich., had promised to create 38,000 U.S. jobs, including 5,900 at its own plants, in return for the government funding under the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.....The criticism increased after last year's bankruptcy filing of solar-panel maker Solyndra two years after it received a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. Energy Department"

just wondering why prezo didn't offer a second bailout? apparently, going green is not the way to go. two companies at an expense of $$800 million+$$ to the taxpayer. that is efficient!

goofus

Wow, Obozo's bot army has permeated these forums. Great rebuttals from the DNC and their bots. We are such a small microcosm but we are in a swing state LMAOROF. A little worried about the election outcome? According to one of the bots, dead people have more time to file their vote early. Why worry the election's in the bag (snicker snicker)

John Harville

Which BOT said "dead people have more time too file their vote early."? Would you be referring to the terminally ill who legally can vote now but may not live to November 6. What a gem are you!

goofus

John BOT Harville, risktaker called you out, quit avoiding that which you cannot lie out of.

John Harville

goofus
"In the 110th Congress of 2007-2008, with Republicans in the minority, there were a record 112 cloture votes." For the unenlightened, a cloture vote ends debate/filibuster.

From US SENATE: Cloture resolutions/cloture (filibuster) invoked:
2011-12 1009/37; 2009-2010 137/63; 2007-2008 139/61; 2005/2006 68/34; 2003-2005 62/12.... you can go check the rest.

Moderator/Sarah. I realize this is a repost but the blog wouldn't let me reply here until I posted generally.

KURTje

Did not the the Koch brothers i.e. Georgia Pacific leave this area taking away people close to retiriment futures? The Koch brothers said if you vote Obama expect lay-offs. (para-pharse)

Riskkbreaker

Bush pushed to regulate Fannie and Freddy but Democrats Dodd and Frank blocked him! Even Dodd now admits that he had "ideological blinders" on when he blocked Bush. He now admits that he was wrong and Bush was right, and notes that he only did it because he thought Bush was just trying to hurt minorities.

Do we voters also have those same blinders on and are about to block a recovery again because we think they "just want to hurt the middle class?" We will know shortly.

John Harville

To save time, could you put up a source for the comments you attribute to Dodd?

Riskkbreaker

It would probably be better for Democrat supporters if I do not. What if my source was wrong? This would mean that, not only did a Democrat do these things but, he did not have the credibility required to own up to it.

However, it was the "Bush versus Obama" article I have linked in two seperate places now..to which I have gotten no rebuttal thus far.

Riskkbreaker

Romney claims that his plan for eliminating deductions is to not eliminate any specific deduction but, it seems, to cap the total amount of dollars that can be deducted at a flat amount, and let people use whatever deductions they can to meet that amount.

One of the talking heads on ABC News, after the debate, said "Obama clearly won. Romney did not understand his own positions. Obama understood his own positions and Romney's previous positions."

Strange,..one of the notes I took on this debate was that Obama ignored what Romney just explained about his plan on deductions. Obama repeated his claim that Romney is not being specific..right after Romney just explained it (above). Romney then, speaking again, starts to repeat what he JUST said about his specific plan on deductions, and Obama leaves his seat and approaches the moderator and starts interrupting.

That is just one small example of Obama's deceptive actions tonight.

anthras

Romney has given some info about his plans but I think that Obamas plan is "we need more time".

John Harville

So Rmoney wants to expand the $10,000 charitable 'standard deduction' to another 'deduction pool' where taxpayers can cherrypick which deduction they'll use to meet the $25,000 figure he suggested? Then people with a $1,00 here and $10,000 there only get $11,000 while someone with mortgage interest, school expenses, etc. can 'bundle' to get $25,000 but someone with a million dollar mortgage still only gets $25,000? How do you build a national budget on that? And what about people who just move more money to the Cayman Islands? Of course with the standard charitable, everyone gets $10,000 but Rmoney gets to choose whether to take $2 or $4 million.

John Harville

Cap at $25,000? Rmoney gonna have to send A LOT more to Switzerland. WHICH of his deductions is presently $25,000 or less? The dancing horse was $77,000 fergodzsake!
No wonder OBM and CBO say his plan is bogus.

John Harville

For @goofus and @risktaker:

"In the 110th Congress of 2007-2008, with Republicans in the minority, there were a record 112 cloture votes." For the unenlightened, a cloture vote ends debate/filibuster.

From US SENATE: Cloture resolutions/cloture (filibuster) invoked:
2011-12 1009/37; 2009-2010 137/63; 2007-2008 139/61; 2005/2006 68/34; 2003-2005 62/12.... you can go check the rest.

"Callout' answered. But cloture/fililbuster only keeps the issue from coming to debate and up/down vote - where Dems still did not have veto-proof Congress.

Riskkbreaker

Callout is not answered. You haven't explained why you seem to think that the Republican plan to gain power..was to lose power in such a way that the public would likely never trust them again. It is senseless.

It seems far more likely that the Dems capitalized on the Anti-War sentiment and, taking control of Congress in the 2006 elections, then saw a perfect chance for an economic coup..and then engaged in the most outlandish campaign of demagoguery ever seen in history (to drown out any attempts by people to point out how the Dems are far more to blame).

Clotures? Should that be a shocker? I would invoke every cloture I could to stop the Dems from trying to "transform" us by way of their Cloward-Piven strategy.
I don't want our businessmen and women leaving to a Capitalist country (like Russia, or China) to escape us.

John Harville

No government, no employer, no one should tell a woman she cannot use contraception. Every woman should have the right to access to contraception.

HUH??? That splashing sound you heard was a bunch of Catholic Bishops jumping off the Romney ship. What he said is an ENDORSEMENT of the element of Obamacare about which "preserve religious freedom" squawkers are so upset.

anthras

Obamacare does not preserve religious freedom I think that is why there are 42 law suits currently pending, This weekend Americans will gather in 140 cities across the country to protest, The bishops are incensed as they will be placing letters in the church bullitons bulletins prior to the election

Riskkbreaker

More spin from the Obama supporters. Now they pretend that Romney supports Obama's position that all churches should provide access to contraception coverage.
If you look at the way he worded it, he does not, at all, say that he supports Obama's position. He is merely reassuring women that he does not view contraception as "a sin" (since so many Obama supporters keep spreading a false message about Republicans, claiming that they may go as far as to ban contraception).
People already have access to contraception. He is merely saying that this should never change.
The sad part about it is that he even needed to clarify this for some people, at all, in the first place.

anthras

I agree that the people should have access but why does Obama feel they should be provided free of charge. I checked and a woman can get "the pill" for $9-$12 per month so they can have sex. If they are really wanting sex I would think they could pay the $10 themselves. Well at least at this point he is not saying that they should get their motel room free.

If they get that free why could I not get my plavix free? I did pay $3,000 for my hearing aids why not make that free.

mikel

hopefully, anthras, people believe that hearing is more important but not democraps. personally, i am for birth control as that might be the only way to slow down the entitlement movement! actually, i am surprised that the dems are in favor for it as they are the biggest beneficiary of entitlements and prezo would have millions less to vote for him!!!!

reese

Risk and Anthras,
Threat to banning contraception is not related to Obamacare or its repeal...it is related to the Personhood/Human Life Amendment that is in the Republican Party Platform. This is important because it is an extreme anti-abortion movement among the Pro-Life Republicans that are seeking #1 to overturn Roe V. Wade and # 2 making a fertilized egg a citizen of this country with all the rights of any other citizen. This position, in effect, makes the use of many popular forms of birth control a form of abortion and a criminal act, subject to criminal consequences.

In Romney's carefully worded response to the access to contraception question, he said he believed that women should have access to birth control. This access doesn't necessarily mean that he believes that it should be affordable for all, or that insurance companies should be required to pay for it. Depends on what he meant by access, which was not clear.

Riskkbreaker

Personhood amendment states that the health of the fetus does NOT trump the health of the mother. So, wrong there.

The Heartbeat Bill allows abortion up to 8 weeks. And the Personhood amendment sets a principle, not a policy. They can co-exist.
I dunno why I even say this..because we knoow they are not actually gonna do anything with it after they get elected.

Anyway, Ryan already made clear that they both support Abortion in the cases of rape, incest, and health of the mother.

KURTje

Thanks for stopping by the soup kitchen (Ohio) Ryan. You are so fake.

44846GWP

Ryan is a big phoney.

goofus

cloture vote will either stop a filibuster or used by republicans and democrats to prevent a filibuster! All cloture votes were done for Dream Act, Cap and Trade, Card Check and the other myriad of Obozo's socialistic agenda. If we stopped a vile and evil agenda, then good for us.

Riskkbreaker

Thank you sir.
I was a bit late in replying to his "Callout answered" (got caught up in alot of other stuff). I finally came back and got him, as well : P
(see my reply, a ways back, that starts out "Callout is not answered")
Again tho, thnx.