Building on momentum, Romney renews push for Ohio

Republican Mitt Romney is making a fresh bid for Ohio voters, trying to use post-debate momentum to make up ground in a state that has been a mainstay of GOP presidential candidates and could help President Barack Obama hold onto the White House.
Associated Press
Oct 10, 2012

 

Romney planned events in communities north of Columbus and Dayton on Wednesday, intensifying his efforts in the state after a strong debate performance that has helped him close a deficit against Obama in national polls.

"This economy is not creating the jobs it should. We've got to fix it," Romney said Tuesday in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, where he campaigned with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. "We're going to do it here in Ohio."

Ohio remained a focus for both campaigns, as Obama and Romney pushed for support on the last day of voter registration before Election Day. Obama returned to the White House following a fundraising trip through California and a stop Tuesday at Ohio State University, where he urged students to cast their ballots early.

"Don't wait. Do not be late. Go vote today," Obama said. "All right, Buckeyes, we need you." His campaign staged buses nearby, ready to ferry students or other supporters to registration centers. Obama was staying off the campaign trail on Wednesday and then heading to Florida on Thursday for events in the nation's largest battleground state.

Romney was campaigning in Ohio as his comments on abortion to an Iowa newspaper brought attention to social issues. Romney told The Des Moines Register in an interview Tuesday that he would not pursue any abortion-related legislation if elected president. His campaign tried to walk back the remarks, saying he would support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life, without elaborating.

Obama's campaign jumped on the apparent shift, saying in a statement that "within just a couple hours of the story with Romney's abortion comments posting, his spokesperson clarified that he would in fact support legislation to restrict a woman's right to choose."

The attention on Ohio came amid signs that Obama's advantage in Ohio was narrowing. A new CNN poll showed Obama leading Romney 51 percent to 47 percent among likely Ohio voters, depicting a tighter race. Republicans said Romney's strong debate appearance has helped his standing in national polls and they were beginning to see evidence of that in the battleground states most likely to decide the election.

Senior Obama political adviser Robert Gibbs said Wednesday the shifting poll numbers shouldn't be automatically viewed as a sign that the president's re-election campaign is sagging.

"We always expected this to be a very close race and we expected that as we got closer to Election Day, the race would tighten even more," Gibbs said in an appearance on NBC's "Today" show.

Of Romney's Des Moines Register interview, Gibbs said, "One more time we've got an example of Mitt Romney changing a position in public even though everybody knows what he believes."

In a conference call Tuesday with reporters, Ohio Gov. John Kasich said of Romney, "There isn't any question that he has breathed new life and new energy into the Republican Party.We're seeing that there is greater intensity among Republicans and a great willingness to get out and vote and participate than we're seeing with Democrats."

With 18 electoral votes, Ohio remains a linchpin in Romney's strategy to string together enough state victories to amass the 270 Electoral College votes needed to take the White House. No Republican has won the presidency without this Midwestern state, and if Romney were to lose here, he would have to carry every other battleground state except tiny New Hampshire.

Romney has far fewer state-by-state paths to the White House than Obama, who still has several routes to victory should he lose in Ohio.

With less than a month before the election, Romney has increased his focus on the state: He's spending three of the next four days in Ohio before the second presidential debate in Hempstead, N.Y., on Tuesday. Running mate Paul Ryan meets Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday in Kentucky for the only vice presidential debate of the campaign.

Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki dismissed the impact of polls showing a tighter race, saying Democrats always expected the race in Ohio and elsewhere to narrow ahead of Election Day.

"We have blinders on. We're implementing our own game plan," Psaki said. "We're focused on getting our supporters out, communicating the choice."

Separately, Romney's campaign is trying to reach out to voters in new ways, dispatching Ann Romney to guest-host "Good Morning America" on Wednesday. Mrs. Romney was scheduled to be on hand for the morning news program's 8 a.m. hour, filling in for co-anchor Robin Roberts, who is on extended medical leave.

 

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The Big Dog's back

Mr. Etch-a-Sketch is now running as a Liberal.

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BW1

What do you mean "now?" That's been the case all along.

Mime Bloggling

Beats Mr. Potato Head.

the office cat

????????. Just gotta look for something, huh?

Contango

A RINO or a socialist?

Kinda hard to choose 'cause ya eventually end up in the same place. One will just get you to fiscal Armageddon quicker.

the office cat

namecalling doesn't prove a thing. Some Repubs think the Latest Romney is their ideal.

What, exactly, makes one a socialist?

Don S

If Ohio wants to start to loose jobs again, then vote for Romney. Hasn't your state suffered enough? Just think of what would've happened if our auto industry failed ? All offshore car makers are backed by their governments. So, what was so wrong that Obama backed OUR car companies? Do you want MORE union busting in Ohio? With Romney as president, Kasich will roll over unions and workers, again, without fear of resistance. Romney will crush the middle class, as we know it...

There you go again

"Loose" might describe your thoughts but
"Lose" is what Obama will do in November!

Erie County Resident

To start with why don't you keep your nose in your own state?
Second is you must be a good little union hack so pay attention to this. It is your job going out the door in the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...

The New World Czar

Issues: Economy vs. Big Bird; Libya vs. "All Things Considered".
Look at all the free Kool-Aid given out at OSU yesterday.
Milhous has played more golf this last year than I have in a decade.
I happily drive my non-bailout vehicle to work every day.

the office cat

Diplomacy vs Bomb Iran. Revise mortgages vs let 'em foreclose and be turned into rentals. Education for all who want it vs kill Pell Grants.

Milhous? Now comparing Pres. Obama to Nixon?

coasterfan

If Obama is a socialist (and he's most assuredly not), I'll STILL take him over Romney. We absolutely know where Bush/Romney economics will take us. The real problem with Romney is that he isn't content to bend the truth like most politicians. The man out and out lies about what he plans to do, and it's absolutely certain that his policies will take $2000 out of every middle class person's pocket. And all so that he can give BIGGER tax breaks to his rich buddies. Don't be fooled by a man who continually changes what he "believes" in. A vote for Obama is a vote for someone who actually cares about all Americans, especially those of us in the middle class.

Riskkbreaker

According to the modern EU definition of a socialist, Obama's policies score 100%

There you go again

Wow, looks like everybody here actually is believing what Obama is lying about across the state. I don't, for one minute, believe that Obama won't take $$ out of our pockets. You are naive to believe that!

coasterfan

Uh, we already KNOW that Obama isn't going to gut the middle class as Romney will. Obama has already been in office, and has done nothing of the kind. As if he would suddenly change his ideology midstream and suddenly attack the middle class. If you're looking for a candidate who will constantly change his mind, and not stand for anything, Romney is your man. To me, the definition of naively is someone who thinks that Bush/Romney economics won't cause another recession.

Riskkbreaker

This comment seems to be out of the Joe Biden playbook.
He, knowing that all of the bad things about Obamacare (and the President's economic policies in general) do not go into effect until after the election, asked people how things are going right now. Instead of addressing everything that Paul Ryan said about what Obamacare is set to do, he switched the topic to remind people that Medicare is still fine at the moment..and had the nerve to ask "Who do you trust?"

Swamp Fox

Obbie bailed out Chrysler with taxpayer money, now Chrysler is owned by a foreign automaker, GM bailed out after private investors and employee pensions were screwed, typical democrapper.........

As Joe Biden recently said, "the middle class has been buried the past four years", even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

"That government is best which governs the least because it's people disciplines themselves." Thomas Jefferson

the office cat

Thomas Jefferson who used government funds for the Louisiana Purchase and Lewis and Clark Expedition; Thomas Jefferson who levied the FIRST FEDERAL SALES TAX when the Northwest Territory (that's us) was established. Jefferson whose "pursuit of happiness" meant, in 1776, working to be happy by assuring the best welfare of others.

Maybe Romney will the 'nut' containing the answers with which he finally decides to claim as his.

coasterfan

The Democrat auto bailout plan beat the heck out of what the GOP posed as an alternative: let them go bankrupt, which would have resulted in the loss of millions of jobs. Absolutely LOVED when Biden used Ryan's own words against him during the discussion about stimulus funds. For those who missed the show, Ryan actually asked Biden for stimulus funds for Wisconsin, then wrote Biden a letter stating that the stimulus funds helped the state's economy and helped create jobs. Which, do course, is exactly what the Democrats said it would do.

Riskkbreaker

The full debate of both Romey and Obama, and Ryan and Biden, are on YouTube. No one should miss it.

How is it a bad thing for Ryan to take the failed policies that are forced upon the country, and do something good for his state with them?
Aside from the fact that you seem to be blaming Ryan for making the best of a bad policy, you might also compare what Ryan did with the money to the decisions that the special interest groups (Obama campaign donors like Solyndra) did with the money they got.

Darwin's choice

Obama is taking the country and you, coasterfan, right over the cliff, and you're pushing the wagon faster.........

coasterfan

Nope. Wrong. He has slowed the decline and we're now on a slow, but sure continued path of improvement. He has added jobs for 30+ consecutive months, and the unemployment rate just or dropped to 7.8%, which I believe, is lower than it was when Bush left office. Ignoring facts doesn't make them less true. If you want an example of a President driving a country over a cliff, check out GW Bush circa 2007-8. Anyone who doesn't believe that America is on a better path in 2012 than it was in 2008 has some serious denial issues...

Randy_Marsh

40 billion a month on top of the outrageous spending already, If we are doing so good why are they monetarizing the debt? Oh i know you believe everything is good sorry to burst your bubble if we were doing good we would not have to buy our own debt.

Riskkbreaker

Speaking of denial, citing fudged numbers from cooked books is not going to sway people who see the slowing trend of our economy's growth rate (where it is slowing more and more each month).
Face it, very few businesses will expand and hire more people if a Democrat is presiding over a financial crisis.
As to that last part, Democrats took control of both houses of Congress in 2007 (up until 2010) and by the end of 2008 we fell into a recession. Your point? I can also go back and forth with you and show, over the decades, which party is more responsible than the other..in regards to dumping messes on the country (which is what made the war hit us so hard).

The Big Dog's back

Let's see, the Repubs left us with the Great Depression, 911, and the Great Recession.

Riskkbreaker

The Democrats, including Obama, left us with the Great Recession.

The Bush Admin warned us about Fannie And Freddie in 2001 and proposed regulations on them because they were privatizing the profit while socializing the risk.
It was Democrats (Dodd and Frank) who blocked those regulations. Obama also backed Dodd's threat of a filibuster (and he was the third largest recipient of campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie in 2004).

We could argue about the war but, after what happened on 9/11, what else would the result have been. Democrats voted to fund the war as well, including Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid.

Darwin's choice

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the office cat

DICK MORRIS!!!! Really? Right here on lil ole Sandusky Register.
DARWIN SEZ "In our new book....Eileen and I explain..."
If DARWIN is NOT DICK MORRIS, Sarah Sahara Moderator better make him fix this or get it off here. The Register CAN be held liable for plagiarism.

mikel

if you truly believe that prez o will not raise your taxes you are a fool.

coasterfan

Righhhhht, Mikel. Obama hasn't raised middle class taxes during his first term, and suddenly you think he is going to turn Republican and enact policies that hurt the middle class. Look, II'm sorry that your own candidate Romney is a Tea Party hack one week, a RINO the next, but our candidate isn't like that. The simple truth about Obama is that he is a known commodity, and by that I mean that we middle class folks know KNOW that he is on our side.

Randy_Marsh

Hey look coaster at the bush tax cuts which are to expire, The middle rate goes up also. Please to at least try to read somthing other than the liberal rags.

John Harville

The dems favor expiring upper class tax cuts. Read something besides the Washington Times and WAshington Examiner.

Randy_Marsh

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/10/15... NPR its safe to read for you. The same Bush tax cuts the Obama admin wants to expire, Bend over you are going to take it from your god in Jan.

the office cat

Whoa!!! NPR is okay if it makes your point?

Randy_Marsh

Unlike you i like to read all the blogs and find the information instead of latching onto just the ones that i agree with. Too bad you didnt look beyond MSNBC or huffington, You might learn more.

Riskkbreaker

You could tax everyone who makes over 250k per year at 100% of their income and you still would not pay for the 2012 spending..unless everyone else kicked in 38 bucks as well.
You should ask yourself why the Obama Admin. does not just go after the Banksters, instead of trying to drag down all small businesses with them. Perhaps they are Ultra Left-Wing extremists attempting a coup..think about it.
By the way, If you think it is bad now, just wait until the business world finds out that Obama is re-elected (if he gets re-elected).

reese

The Bush tax cuts are due to expire. It is up to the Congress to keep this from happening. This is not about President Obama, it is about how Congress is going to handle this crisis. Better pay more attention to who you are voting for in the congressional elections, especially the House of
Representatives. Make sure you figure out who your representatives are and what their positions are.

mikel

yes, make sure that your represenative has the courage to stand up to prez o and not let him trod on our financial freedom. thank goodness for the current members of the house or our deficit would would be triple the $1.1 trillion. prez o has no financial knowledge as he only knows how to spend and not how to cut.

FST

What I think is funny is that 6 months ago all the rightwing supporters on here bashed everything Obama was doing and were in total support of Romney and his beliefs. And now that Romney has changed almost everything he believed in and is leaning more to what Obama has been trying to do, just to get more voters on his side,the rightwingers STILL support him. What Romney was against 6 months ago, he is now for. And what he was for then, he is now against.He has been caught is so many lies and flip-flopping, how can anybody really trust him and believe what he says? The fact is that the POTUS is just a figurehead. If you REALLY want to save this country, then you need to pay closer attention to who you vote for in CONGRESS because THEY are the ones holding all the cards. They are the ones making and breaking our laws and it is Congress that is spending our taxes on things that really doesn`t matter to the wellbeing of the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You all can argue about who is better between Romney and Obama, but the truth is that they BOTH are, or will sell out the American people. I would rather throw my vote away on Gary Johnson than to let EITHER party think I approve of the way they have been doing things by voting for one of them.

mikel

kinda like prez o saying that he was against same sex marriage and then a couple of months later says that he is now for it? or....when prez o says that he will close gitmo, balance the budget and he has done neither. the list goes on and on and on. if you have kept score of any prez you would note that almost nothing said by a candidate comes true.

coasterfan

Congrats, Mikel. You searched 4 years of Obama comments to find three things in which Obama flip flopped. Romney does that in a single week. Clearly Mitt will say ANYTHING to get elected. It's clear that even HE doesn't believe what he is saying, or he wouldn't do constant 180s on literally every possible topic....

Randy_Marsh

Maybe Romney is "Evolving" LOL! Thats still funny how hypocritical you people are.

Riskkbreaker

"I will repeal the Patriot Act."
Obama extended it and then signed NDAA (instead of refusing to sign it and citing, as his reason, that Republicans had inserted potentially tyrannical powers, over U.S. citizens, into the Act --- which, if this allegation is true, would have sealed his opponents' fate as a party..but he signed it anyway) and he has also now given the Executive Branch control over all forms of communication...if the need arises.
And that is just one of the worst examples.

John Harville

He didn't f/f on the same-sex thing. Unlike Republicans, the more scholarly president patiently awaited court decisions and listened to all sides then acted.
He waited for Congress to move on immigration, then decided to enact a portion of the Dream Act.
He attempted to close Gitmo - but nobody on the mainland wanted these prisoners 'in my back yard'.
He can't balance the budget. It's the Constitutional responsibility of the House.

Randy_Marsh

So he cannot lead is that what you are saying? Or are you saying the poor guy will run out of people if things go bad and he doesnt have the guts? Im sorry the guy has either followed Bush policy or he has enhanced it. We cannot afford another 4 years of this guy.
BTW he did flip flop on the same sex deal look it up i am not UNICEF.

the office cat

John... you gotta understand Randy. He's the epitome of "a little knowledge can be dangerous'.
Randy... nobody said 'he cant lead'. Appropriations and Revenue - the budget are specifically assigned by the Constitution (you remember that document?) to the House of Representatives - the ONLY branch of government given that power. A flip-flop is a change of position to match what your auidience is thinking - without much thought given. A change in position is the result of discussion with people from all sides and serious consideration of ramifications before changing one's mind. Of course your vision is so narrow that changing your mind is not a possibility. UNICEF? Who said you're the United Nations Childrens Fund?

Randy_Marsh

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. B. Obama 2008
Obama himself said of bush he could not lead because of the spending problem, He continues the policys spending continues so he too is a failure. Don't you hate when your own words come back to haunt you?

mikel

can i get an amen????

Randy_Marsh

UNICEF, Obviously you have no humor in your life. Your VP laughs at Nuclear threats from foriegn nations i would think you would see the humor in a movie reference. My bad, The left are a miserable lot and would not know humor if it hit them in the head.

The Big Dog's back

rand, is the nuclear threat like the WMD's in Iraq threat?

Randy_Marsh

Dog
Who knows no one has shown up to a security briefing in over a month but im sure if they find one they will be sure to throw the intellegence community under the bus again or just flat out lie as they did in libya.

Riskkbreaker

That last paragraph..does that mean Clinton did not balance the budget either, then? Who controlled Congress when the budget was balanced for part of the Clinton years? It was not the Dems.
Also, the Democrats gained control of Congress from the start of 2007 until the end of 2010 and they have had record breaking deficit spending ever since.

Pete

More trouble for the tool currently occupying the White House:

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/...

More lies and deception of the Obama Administration. But that is par for the course for him and his minions.

Darwin's choice

Big Dog...Coasterfan.......what about this??

The Big Dog's back

Is this the same darrel issa who committed treason at this same hearing? Why do Repubs like outing CIA agents?

http://thinkprogress.org/securit...

Pete

So Brutus.... Because your Messiah lied and it was caught by Issa that makes it OK?

And Think Progress? WOW! Scraping the bottom of the Libtopian Barrel there aren't you???

Your Messiah got people killed Brutus. Then they all lied to the American people. Disgusting is what it is!

the office cat

You mean the Issa who - along with Paul Ryan - voted FOR gutting the budgets of forces who were supposed to protect/defend foreign embassies?

Or do you mean the Issa who has a long criminal record, served time in jail, and blamed the bad stuff on 'my brother'?

Pete

Yes, 147 R's voted for the cuts. But.... 149 D's did Cat. Which is worse?

Or we could be talking about the coke snorting Obama. He is such a GOOD role model isn't he!

The Big Dog's back

Yeah pete, when all the rest of your accusations fall through, blame it on the Black man.

Randy_Marsh

Hey look its the race card again, You notice this always comes up when they have no defense for their god.

Riskkbreaker

The cuts are irrelevant to the fact that the Obama Admin. ignored specific pleas, from that Embassy, for security..and intel which suggested the attack would occur. Not to mention, the shameless act of blaming it on an anti-Muslim video when they already knew it was no such thing.

coasterfan

What about what? You have a conservative newspaper chiming in, complete with Fox News quote. Fairly Unbalanced....

Randy_Marsh

HA! And Coaster is balanced? Coasters god could shoot her in the face and she would thank him for it. How stupid can you actually be?

the office cat

A retired general said Marines at embassies are to protect buildings, not persons. In every country - including ours - protection of foreign embassies is the responsiblity of the hot government.

anthras

A nameless retired general stated they are there to protect buildings, not persons ?? I get it if they would assassinate the persons in the building in a manner as to not damage the buildings the Marines would just step aside and allow that to happen.

Has it occured that even if they were there to protect buildings they might also attempt to prevent harm to any persons within the building ????

mikel

sooooo, do you want the enemy to protect you? how is that working in afghanistan where the taliban are dressing as afghan soldiers and then killing american troops?

what a dumb statement from putty tat.

The Big Dog's back

Sooooooo righties, are you all for foreign troops to be in our country in great numbers to protect their Ambassadors?

anthras

I do think that any ambassador in any country should have what ever degree of protection it would take to keep them safe. A human life no matter who it may be is worthy of protection

mikel

name? according to your buddy john, if the source is not revealed it is not creditable. right johnny?

the office cat

Don't know about the 'general'. But this comes from "Marines" the official website of the USMC.
"The primary mission of the Marine Security Guard (MSG) is to provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States." Good'nuf Mike?

Darwin's choice

Ahh, Big Dog, the old "defer" blame game!! Obama Lied! Admit it! His entire administration is clueless. Keep drinking the kool-aid. And, no matter who outed him, the fact is still he lied.

The Big Dog's back

Did you hear what Joe said? We went by the intelligence on the ground. The CIA, the same ones issa outed. TREASON! why aren't you concerned about that? How many people's covers are blown and could be killed? Get off your high horse and think of the people on the ground.

The Big Dog's back

I can't watch ryan having his you know what handed to him any longer. Go home little Eddie Munster.

Pete

DANVILLE, KY - Straight out of the gates tonight in Danville, debate moderator Martha Raddatz asked about the ongoing cover-up of the 9/11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya. Vice President Joe Biden immediately started lying about the situation, as the Obama administration and the Obama campaign have done since day one.

1. Biden said extra security was not requested. Documents, State Department cables and Congressional testimony just this week show more security for the consulate in Benghazi was requested as early as March 2012. All three also showed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens received death threats from Al Qaeda in July 2012.

2. Biden repeated the lie that there was a protest outside of the consulate prior to the attack, despite the administration knowing there was no protest and that the attack was an act of terror within 24 hours. Biden, as Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have in the past (remember the CIA prosecutions? remember the prosecutions of Navy SEALs?), threw the intelligence community under the Obama for America bus.

3. Biden accused Ryan of voting against consulate security funding, implying the attack happened as a result. This week, officials closest to the disaster in Libya said funding had nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi on 9/11.

Three strikes on Libya and a deeper hole for the administration to climb out of as a result.

mikel

not to mention biden says that our intelligence regarding libya was flawed and not reliable. right after that he says that we have some of the best intelligence regarding iran's nuke program. so, biden, which is it?????

btw, i just have to laugh when i look at biden i think this millionaire only gave $300 in donations last year!! what a tool.

John Harville

Is that from his tax returns?

Riskkbreaker

Are you implying that Biden won the debate? I would suggest reading my reply to Coasterfan's comment (further on) about the Ryan/Biden debate.

the office cat

Ahh. Dick Morris. State for us the evidence that 'Obama Lied'.

Randy_Marsh

Doesnt take much. A month before there were reports of a esculated attack on the embassy, It was attacked with rocket launchers and waves of attackers, CNN was in there 3 days after the fact and saw that it was definatly a terrorist attack. One week later the admin is still clinging to the story of a bad movie clip from 4 months before is to blame for a protest that got out of hand. If our intellegence is that bad maybe Obama just needs to watch CNN? Maybe he didnt lie and seriously didnt know lord knows the guy has not showed up to a security briefing in over 2 months.

coasterfan

No my friend.Clueless is an administration that puts two wars on a credit card, while simultaneously cutting incoming revenue through massive tax cuts. This silly recipe turned a budget surplus into a trillion dollar deficit. Clueless is an administration that had obvious warning signs prior to 9/11 yet got caught completely by surprise. Obama is such an improvement that it defies description.

mikel

orrrrrrrrr an prez that knew his ambassador needed more protection and FAILED to give it to him which cost him his life, right coaster??

just wondering how prez o sleeps at night knowing that HE is directly responsible for the death's of 2 american's. one being a border guard and the other an ambassador.

John Harville

So the president personally was responsible to send in more protection? The sleep of the just. Directly?
Desperation aboundeth for you eh?

mikel

oh, i forgot the dem motto: "if it works i am responsible. if it fails it must have been someone else's responsibility"!!

John Harville

Sorry it posted twice

Randy_Marsh

Stae dept, Executive branch, The buck stops here, Yes he is responsible too bad he has not shown up for a security briefing in 2 months.

John Harville

Citation? Proof? Oh... you don't do that, do ya?

Randy_Marsh
reese

Randy,

The link you provided to support your claim that the President has not had a security briefing in two months is an article that asks the question about whether these right-wing allegations are factual. The article concludes that they are not based on facts. Did you read the whole article?

The President does not have his briefings on his calendar because he does not always schedule these briefings in person, but rather receives the information via secure Ipad or written material. Read the article.

The Big Dog's back

Gee, reading My Pet Goat was much more important than the country being attacked. Bush- over 3,000 killed on 911. over 5,000 in 2 wars. Still want to keep "score"?

Randy_Marsh

Reese
Alot of good it did huh? Maybe laying off Las Vegas and "The view" and a little more trying to run the country.

the office cat

What Reese said! But Randy only reads what he wants to... it's a strange malady one gets from too much tea.

The Big Dog's back

The biggest security failure in our history- September 11, 2001, 911. Who was President? GW Bush. Or do you want to blame that on Obama too?

Randy_Marsh

The two wars Biden voted for? Or the act of not passing a budget for 4 years i am confused about the economic awarness of this admin please enlighten us. (BTW Clinton was the president 8 months in advance of 9/11, still want to play this card after 4 years of blaming bush?)

John Harville

The vice president didn't pass a budget? Damn. Guess he forgot to read that part of the Constitution.

Clinton - who left office 1/20/2001 - was pres 8 months in advance of the attack of 9/11/2001 - has what to do with the discussion?

Randy_Marsh

Nah your right, The entire democrat party who was in power cannot do that.

the office cat

The entire Democratic party was in power in 2001?

Riskkbreaker

Obama voted to continue funding the war as did Biden, Pelosi, and Reid. Therefore, it is just as much their war as it was Bush's.

the office cat

No. Obama was opposed.

Riskkbreaker

Wrong. You are referring to his claim that if he would have been a member of Congress when the war started, he WOULD HAVE opposed it. However, once he was a member of Congress, he voted to continue funding after the fact.

coasterfan

Wow. Slam dunk. Congrats Mr. Biden on a thorough butt-whipping. Loved Bill Maher's Facebook Post: "Somebody call 9-11. An old man is beating a child". Biden was believable, Ryan was utterly NOT believable. Still no details on the Romney/Ryan tax plan, just their usual vague promises. As independent economists pointed out, the GOP economic plan is mathematically impossible.

From where I sit, the only people who are drinking kool-aid are those who actually believe that Romney would help the middle class. A politician like Romney who constantly changes his "views" on every single possible subject cannot be trusted, and the absolute LAST thing America needs are GOP economic policies that created the worst US recession since the 1930's Great Depression.

It's amusing to listen to the rightwingnut conspiracy folks who post here. Their comments have a certain unhinged hysterical tone, don't you think?

Randy_Marsh

"it's absolutely certain that his policies will take $2000 out of every middle class person's pocket"
"and the absolute LAST thing America needs are GOP economic policies that created the worst US recession since the 1930's Great Depression"
Qouted from Coasterfan. Fearmongering is what you accuse of others why does it seem your the biggest fear monger on here? Oh i know your following Obama's playbook. "If you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters."
B.Obama

coasterfan

A funny comment from a man whose conservative party's entire campaign strategy has been nothing BUT fearmongering. First, if it's true, it's not fearmongering. Independent economists have said that Romney's economics would raise middle class taxes an average of $2000. Romney won't give any details as to his plan would work. One would think that if he truly wanted to "prove" that his plan will work, he would provide some details. The problem with invisible things (like Mitt's economic plan) is that they look an awful lot like things that don't actually exist. Economists have gone on record stating that Mitt's plan is mathematically impossible. Second, dude, you need to learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. When you sound illiterate, it weakens your arguments exponentially...

Randy_Marsh

Really coaster? Obama has nothing to run on so he attacks, I have yet to see ONE thing praising his accomplishments. Attacking my grammer is just another way of showing YOU ARE out of arguments. Its pathetic.

John Harville

"grammAr". Oh my. "nothing to run on". bin laden; troops out of Iraq; pre-existing conditions; kids til 27; 1 in 8 jobs in Ohio saved; housing market turning corner; NYSE twice what it was; student loans.... To see 'nothin' maybe you should look in the mirror?

Randy_Marsh

So giving a order that anyone would have done, (Troops are still there, Look it up) Keeping kids in the home till 26 and then getting them on welfaree, Bailing out the housing market 40 billion a month, feeding the rich on fiat money, Student debt loans over 1 trillion is somthing? I guess it is if you arent looking for much.

the office cat

Anyone? Bush?

mikel

john - you forgot to mention doubling the deficit. how could you?

the office cat

How many of us have to say it? The House has responsibility for revenue and spending.

Riskkbreaker

And Democrats controlled both houses of Congress from early 2007 to the end of 2010! They caused it! Dodd and Frank (Dems) blocked Bush's proposed regulations against Fannie and Freddie. Obama backed Dodd's theat of a filibuster bcause he was the 3rd largest recipient of 2004 campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie.

reese

Let me add a few more John...

Wall Street Reform
Began drawdown of troops in Afghanistan
Repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell
Recapitilized Banks
Joined Coalition to topple Moammar Gaddafi
Told Mubarak to go
Reversed Bush torture policies
Kicked banks out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant spending
Created Race to the Top
Boosted Fuel efficiency standards
Increased Support for Veterans
Increased Sanctions on Iran
Passed Credit Card Reform
Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Nominated and had confirmed two Supreme Court Justices
Improved Food Safety System
Achieved new Start Treaty
For more go to:
www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...

anthras

worse recession since the great depression, can you remember double digit Jimmy Carter?? Double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates could anyone buy a house at 18% interest rates ???

The Big Dog's back

Jimmy Carter? Really? Interest rates now are the lowest ever, inflation low, unemployment at 7.8%.

anthras

My point is that Obama is saying that he took over the worse recession since the great depression and I feel that he took over the worse recession since double digit Jimmy

the office cat

I bought a house at 18% and a car. But during the Depression
my parents couldn't even buy gas for their 1926 Model A except with rationing stamps. My aunt and uncle sent their children to live with relatives because they couldn't provide a home. And I think I should point out my 18% mortgage was during Saint Ronald's administration. My 1978 mortgage was only 10%.

mikel

dems. sometimes i question their intelligence level. prez o has a commercial stating that romney will take away medicare funding for people that have disabilities and the dems are all over that condeming romney for hating people with disabilities.

yet, prez o has stated that he will install a cap on hsa accounts. apparently, prez o and the rest of the dems, don't know that this money is used to pay for many, many, many medical items that are used every day by people that have disabilities!

like i have said before...dems, trying to support themselves, just step from one bucket of pooh into another bucket of pooh!!!

the office cat

A Health Savings Account MUST be tied to a High Deductible Health insurance Plan (HDHP). The caps - since the plan was initiated in 2004 - are set by Congress and the IRS and are based entirely on your health insurance. THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL. So please quote the President you claim "has stated that he will install a cap on HSA Accounts" since those caps first were set in 2004. There's YOUR first bucket of pooh.
People with disabilities - or anyone with an HSA - only can use the account for procedures, medicines, physicians NOT COVERED by their EXISTING Health Insurance. The government - Congrsss and the IRS - entirely regulates use of the monies. Poo Bucket Two.
And thus your great proliferation of desperate lies and misinformation continues.

Pete

Aren't you a government employee Cat? So ACCA doesn't affect you does it?

John Harville

Are you Cat?

the office cat

A govt employee? Me? Don't I wish. No John, they don't... but it's fun letting them think they do.

mikel

putty tat, her who thinks she knows all: "..the ObamaCare law actually contains 20 new or higher taxes on the American people."

"The 24 million Americans who have Flexible Spending Accounts will face a new federally imposed $2,500 annual cap. These pre-tax accounts, which currently have no federal limit, are used to purchase everything from contact lenses to children’s braces. With the cost of braces being as high as $7,200, this tax provision will play an unwelcome role in everyday kitchen-table health care decisions.

The cap will also affect families with special-needs children, whose tuition can be covered using FSA funds. Special-needs tuition can cost up to $14,000 per child per year. This cruel tax provision will limit the options available to such families, all so that the federal government can squeeze an additional $13 billion out of taxpayer pockets over the next ten years."

poop.

John Harville

As the puss says... proof? citation? Just so we know... you were talking about HSAs. Why the switch to FSAs?

John Harville

Cat! Can you send the sandbox to Mikel? The poo is mounting. The FSAs do not pay tuition. Your eyeballs are turning tan...

mikel

oh john, how wrong you are! with a recommendation/referral from a pcp one can use their fsa, for an individual that is handicapped, for educational purposes. many individuals that are mentally challenged and handicapped can use their fsa accounts for transportation vehicles as well.

poop.

John Harville

citation, please? Can't, huh?

John Harville

Are you disabled? Do you have a handicap? I've read enough to know those words aren't yours. ....also to know you don't like to provide sources. So folks, discount anything Mikel says.

mikel

no, not handicapped. consultation with individual that has the right medical/insurance background.

yes, please discount the accurate info that i post. thereby, when it does actually happen you have no one to blame but john. are you cat's hubby? you seem to believe that everything you say is gospel just like cat. maybeeeee, you 2 are actually hussein and michelle incognito?

the office cat

"...an individual with the right information..." There you go again.
I don't have to consult...have firsthand experience.
Married? I'm not sure our spouses would allow that. Ya see... this is how many on here know how 'out there' you are. you really have no informtion that doesn't come from some authoritative '...individual...', huh?

mikel

let's see. one brother-in-law owner of multiple re-hab facilities another a physician and his wife does the insurance billing so she is up to date and versed on the in's and out's of what can be done. yeah, i am satisfied with my sources.

coasterfan

Meh

coasterfan

Score Office Cat. 1. Mikel 0

Randy_Marsh

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).
What?? Oh do not name the person i am responding to as in they are mathmatically disabled?

Riskkbreaker

Strange..on the economy and healthcare, Biden deflected and changed the subject (read: Let's talk about how Medicare is doing now instead of talking about how it will be doing after the elections, when Obamacare kicks in).
Anytime where he wasn't doing that, he would just return to repeating his errors as if he did not hear, or did not comprehend, what Ryan just explained.

Biden was like Joe Pesci from "My Cousin Vinny," where he had to be nudged awake and then he trounced over to the jury and proclaimed "Everything that guy just said is BS." What a joke.

I think you are confusing a debate win..with the feeling of your party's guy being able to come up with a way to make it sound plausible at all (as Obama was struggling, and failed, to do in the first debate with Romney)..confusing that with winning by actually making any sense (once you dissect what Biden said).

plau·si·ble
adjective
1. having an appearance of truth or reason; seemingly worthy of approval or acceptance; credible; believable: a plausible excuse; a plausible plot.
2. well-spoken and apparently, but often deceptively, worthy of confidence or trust: a plausible commentator.

Darwin's choice

"their comments have a certain unhinged hysterical tone,don't you think?" Coasterfan, please walk into your bathroom, and look in the mirror......

the office cat

Ohh Dick! Just read the poo (Mikel's word, Ms. Sarah Moderator) you post.

coasterfan

Good one Darwin. Of course, your comment only reminds me of the old saying that intelligent people look insane to stupid people. Guess which role you're playing in this scenario?

Darwin's choice

Again, see reflection in mirror.........

the office cat

Paul Ryan sez: "we don't think unelected judges should make this decision" (about whether abortion should be legal). He said elected legislators should make that decision.
With that statement, Paul Ryan overruled Article III Section 2 of the Constitution (that document held so dear by his sponsoring Tea Party):
"The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;...to controversies between TWO OR MORE states; between a state and citizens of another state; BETWEENN CITIZENS OF DIFFERENT STATES..."
Please note those justices are 'unelected'.

John Harville

Don't confuse them about the Constitution. They only like it when defending it makes them sound noble.

Riskkbreaker

So, uh..office cat. At what point does that have anything to do with a state and it's own citizens? After all, that is the actual issue. States that want Abortion regulated in their own state.

the office cat

So, uh, Riskbreaker... try ARticle XIV. Abortion extends across state lines - especially when it was illegal and folks in Indiana drove to Chicago and women in Ohio drove to Michigan...
Oh, and there is that 'choice' thing that applies to ALL Americans.

mikel

putty tat says - "Oh, and there is that 'choice' thing that applies to ALL Americans."

except when it comes to our health care right?

dems, always stepping from bucket of pooh into another trying to prove their point.

Riskkbreaker

You danced right around the question. Nothing you have cited prevents a state from voting to change Abortion laws within their own state.
Your reply only makes sense if, in your world, citizens from other states are allowed to demand that another state (which they do not live in) conforms their laws to the wishes of people in a different state.

Pete

Obama and his worshipers are circling the drain. It is funny to watch the desperation in their posts.

mikel

putty tat - does your employer know that you are stealing from him? ie blogging on here during work hours. or...do you own your own business that you have all of this free time?

Pete

She works for JFS so yes, we the people know what she does on our time.

John Harville

OC. They just don't know, do they?

John Harville

Why are you libeling another person on here? Even SR disclaimers can't protectthem from a libel suit.

mikel

who is libeling? inquiring minds just want to know if she is doing personal business on work time with work equipment or if she is self employed, which, would then make that a mute point.

Pete

She posted where she worked at first. It was her doing not ours. If you post up your place of employment, then someone may remember it.

mikel

another proud member of the democratic party: "Pedro Espada Jr., the pugnacious former Democratic state senator who fought his way through a perennial cloud of suspicion to the top ranks of state government only to later become one of the most glaring examples of endemic corruption in Albany, was convicted on Monday of stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from the nonprofit health care network he founded."

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