City to demolish APEX building

Construction crews should soon begin demolishing the blighted building where a police dog died in June during an unauthorized training exercise.
Andy Ouriel
Aug 17, 2012

Construction crews should soon begin demolishing the blighted building where a police dog died in June during an unauthorized training exercise.

The $1.46 million project aims to remove the decrepit Apex Building and clean up the 13 acres of waterfront property on First Street, next to Lyman Harbor.

In December, Sandusky officials obtained a $1.09 million state grant to jump-start the project.

Famous Realty of Cleveland, which owns the land, contributed $323,000, while city taxpayers are fronting the remaining $45,000.

Ideally, city planners envision the area as a job-ready site for some sort of commercial activity.

For more on this story, pick up a copy of Friday's Register.

Comments

donutshopguy

 Why are taxpayers paying for removal of  an old building? Isn't that the responsibility of the land owner? The state grant is your tax dollars and the 45k is tax dollars from the city.  Does the city or state retain any ownership from their investment?

 

richrs

Next on the list:

1] Keller Building

2] American Crayon

3] Sandusky Cabinets

That would be a good start. Could think of probably 4 or 5 more.

And then build the new city office complex, muni court and police station where the keller and feddersons are.

007

Famous Realty of Cleveland, which owns the land, contributed $323,000, while city taxpayers are fronting the remaining $45,000. Please explain to me why the TAXPAYER has to pay ANYTHING? Also who takes title of said property once the building is leveled?

PD4LIFE

DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT WAS UNAUTHORIZED - OR IS THIS PATHETIC PAPER JUST SAYIN WHAT IT WANTS TO MAKE ANY POLICE OFFICER OR DEPARTMENT LOOK BAD - WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES AT THE REGISTER - WASENT THE TABLE LOVER FROM BELLEVUE A SR EMPLOYEE, AN LETS NOT GET STARTED ON M.W. PAST ACTIVITIES. SAD THIS PAPER ALWAYS NO MATTER WHAT STORY THROWS A TWIST IN THE MAKE LE LOOK BAD - GET OVER URSELF

Contango

From the article:

"City planners envision the area as a job-ready site for some sort of commercial activity."

"Some sort"?  In this case, "city planner" reads like a oxymoron.

 

I was in it once, when Dixon used it for storage. Great pigeon rookery.

 

Razing it should be treated like a funeral for Sandusky's past: A once great and dynamic industrial and manufacturing center.

 

PD4LIFE

DOES IT SAY ANYWHERE IN THERE "UNAUTHORIZED" NO IT DOESNT

sorryhog

Seems to me that Famous Realty should foot the bill.

The average taxpayer certainly would have to?

Seize their assets,if they don't want to pay.

007

@PD4LIFE:

I don't know if the Register said this or if it was from a police report. This statement was in the article.

That night, police charged six people — including the victim — with criminal trespassing.

They were on the property without permission.

Imataloss

Um, anyone done an environmental on this site????  Job-ready site???? That's a joke.  The City either thinks we are stupid or they are.

Browndog271

Have them quote the cost to demo  City Hall !

Nor'easter

This property would make a great east end park. SAND BEACH SHORELINE ALREADY  THERE.  LARGE TREES FOR SHADED PICNIC GROVE ALREADY THERE.  BUILDING SITE HAS PARKING LOT.  The only park in the east end is on land leased from Cedar Fair until future plans to build there are completed.  Erie Metro might be the conduit to make this happen.

Truth or Dare

This is messed up!!!!!  Which City Commission meetings was this discussed at?

When you research Famous Realty of Cleveland, it categorizes itself under the "Heating and Air Conditioning Combination Units", a Private Corp..  Seems there are a few more irons in the fire as far as  the business  (investment) is concerned?  They couldn't afford to do this themselves, or wouldn't?  Just exactly what kind of revenue does this conglomerate bring in? 

I say the Ohio EPA give the Taxpayers of the City of Sandusky every/any penny paid to them for fines since June 15th. of 2011!    It should cover half the cost we're being forced to pay too a Private Corporation that could certainly afford to pay for the demolition themselves!  We should also have rights to  this property, after all, the majority of the cost is being paid with our own $$$'s in the form of grants, plus the $45K, by no choice of our own, too have to help demolish this hazard of a building that they created!, leaving for us to clean up!   

wiredmama222

Truth or dare....isn't the clean up included in the cost of the demolition or am I missing something here?  I thought this LAND would then be "site ready" or did i indeed miss something?  That indicates to me that "clean up" is included. 

The Don

 You can demolish this at $1.46 mil but not that eyesore Keller building for $500,000. Somthing just isn't right!   I guess someone or somthing has to die in that Keller building before something will happen to it....sorry to who this WILL happen to when somthing falls off it and kills you!

The Don

 @richrs.  Keller YES!!   American crayon was just sold and is going to be torn down for scrap in the following months!  The old part at least!

deertracker

Once again, the taxpayer is being screwed by a big corp.  If I had a condemned property I would be totally responsible for it, taxes, demolition and all.  Sad!

Seriously

 VERY CONFUSED!  

Out of 1.46 million the owners who allowed said property to reach current state only have to pitch in  $323 thousand??   Does the city/federal gov't then either: retain rights to the property to regain money, or put a lean on the property to regain money when current owners sell?

I applaud the fact that this waterfront property will finally be transformed into something useful but it should never be at the cost of the taxpayers when the owners still have money and or a chance to profit from the taxpayers........

TO THE CITY........Very confused on your planning?   A.  You pollute the property 2 lots down between Lyman and Sunrise Marina to complete your taco stand creating a possible brownfield    then B.  Retain grant money and tax payers money to clean up an area two doors down

The city is either idiotic or evil geniuses?

TO THE SANDUSKY REGISTER.......  Are you insinuating that we should have more accidents where police dogs die in vacant buildings to get the city to move forward in demolishing them?  Because as far as we know there is no correlation there at all!

To the idea of another park??? WHAT?????   I'm sorry but we already have too many parks we can't take care of!  Parks don't create revenue, if they did we would be rich as a city!  Adding more green and "Flower Pots" to our city and streets like some organizations seem to think is not the way to spend precious resources "money" to rebuild a decaying old city!

lugnut2511

Just wondering if this money is added to that property taxes when sold? I mean how does the state, and the city recover the cost,  We all know ever city is having suh a rough time, $100,000 could even get Sandusky a Mayor.. Just saying they need to recover that money and Taxes would be the safest bet

 

DFF Forever

An eye sore, yes. A waste of space, yes. An iconic Sandusky landmark, yes. I'm sad to see it go.  

Minnow

GOTO THE KELLER BUILDING NEXT!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.................IT IS TOO DANGEROUS TO WALK DOWN THE STREET.   WHATS IT GONNA TAKE TILLL SOMEONE GETS HURT!!!

Larry

To Andy Ouriel ;

Neither this online edition or the friday edition of the SR addresses the issue of who this property will belong to once the demolition is complete.

If you don't know, perhaps you should do a little investigative reporting.

Also it would be nice to know if there are going to be any restrictions on it's future development.

Darkhorse

Famous holds title to their own land before and after demolition.

KnuckleDragger

 @nor'easter, you can't be serious?  The last thing we need is another park or more publicly owned property on the waterfront.  Erie metroparks already owns a huge swath of prime lakefront real estate that is now off the tax rolls and costing the taxpayers money.  Yeah, we need more of that.  People are complaining about spending $45K to have a building demolished, and your plan is to sink another million dollars into making it a public park?  Go enjoy the hardly used metroparks properties that are already along the lake and please stop suggesting that we give more property to the government.

wiredmama222

@ Knuckledragger..... AMEN, AMEN, AMEN....we do NOT need another park in this place.  I am all for green space, but we don't need MORE of it than we have now.  We are getting green spaced to death around here.  And the last thing we need is Erie Metro Parks involved with anything.  They haven't got a great track record so far in their endeavors.  No thank you. 

What we need is something that is going to fill the coffers of our tax base, like a hotel that the CITY has, not Cedar Point.  Like a nicely constructed and pretty hotel near Lyman Harbor and CP entrance. 

But the city also needs to start worrying about getting some BUSINESSES in here...FACTORIES to offer the people who live here good paying JOBS. 

 

 

Centauri

The city needs to put in a lien against this property. $1,135,000 is taxpayer money funding this private company which has been for sale for quite some time for $5,495,000. Famous Realty of Cleveland owns this water front property. There are 15 acres on the water front priced at  $366,333.33 per acre. The city needs money. Stop giving taxpayer money to a private owner or company.  http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15503321/1643-First-St-Sandusky-OH/

 
The Bizness

 You all are really going to complain about $45,000.00?! If someone buys this and puts a business or hotel there the money will be made back in a couple of years. Calm down please, the anger some of you show over a few thousand dollars is disgusting.

Seriously

 @ BIZNESS

 

It is 1.46 million minus 323,000!   Don't know where you come up with the couple thousand, unless your not an American Citizen????  The Federal Government is also your pocket!  There is no "Grant tree"......... 

 

 

Centauri

15 acres for sale but the company only pays taxes on one acre. Check out the valuation tab also. Why has the value of this one acre stayed the same since 1994? What about the other 14 acres? The link from the Erie County Auditor triggered the spam filter. Look up parcel  57-01425.000

 

Phil Packer

 What is tax money for? Just to drop bombs on other countries? I'll be glad to see it go.

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